Zero Punctuation: Super Mario Maker
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Have to love some of these comments, Yahtzee has never been a reviewer, just a critic. He has always generalized and not gone into the nitty gritty, such as saying all the games are just cosmetic, he knows they aren't but the difference is so negligible that he just glosses over it.
Personally I like the ways he goes about talking about games in his videos. None of this "this is like this, except in these ways that don't really matter", it's just nice and simple "this is like this" with none of caveats.
Personally I like the ways he goes about talking about games in his videos. None of this "this is like this, except in these ways that don't really matter", it's just nice and simple "this is like this" with none of caveats.
When I heard of Super Mario Maker I thought it was the most idiotic idea ever. Instead of a new Mario game, God forbid one which would actually try something new instead of regurgitate old material with a new paint job they plan to release... a level editor? Seriously?
But you know what? They pulled it off. I personally think Super Mario Maker turned out great. It's easy to be cynical about it.. but Nintendo know their stuff when it comes to game design. Bottom line... it's fun. Actually it's more fun than it deserves to be, being an (ugh) a mere level editor. My guess - most people who diss it right away didn't bother to give it a fair chance.
On the other hand - autoMario fad is pure BS. Why so many people get crazy about glorified Rube Goldberg's machines is beyond me. I can appreciate a good audio sync project when I see one, but these things do not have an audio track to provide some sort of auditory context to the nonsense you are watching - it's just Mario being propelled through various jumble on screen until he reaches the exit. I see automario fans as "gamers" who have regressed so much that not only do they not want challenge in their games, they are back at the infancy stage where all they want is something colorful to move around in front of them, preferably accompanied with jingly whoopsy sounds. Do you people really need an actual computer game for that? Isn't Youtube enough?
But you know what? They pulled it off. I personally think Super Mario Maker turned out great. It's easy to be cynical about it.. but Nintendo know their stuff when it comes to game design. Bottom line... it's fun. Actually it's more fun than it deserves to be, being an (ugh) a mere level editor. My guess - most people who diss it right away didn't bother to give it a fair chance.
On the other hand - autoMario fad is pure BS. Why so many people get crazy about glorified Rube Goldberg's machines is beyond me. I can appreciate a good audio sync project when I see one, but these things do not have an audio track to provide some sort of auditory context to the nonsense you are watching - it's just Mario being propelled through various jumble on screen until he reaches the exit. I see automario fans as "gamers" who have regressed so much that not only do they not want challenge in their games, they are back at the infancy stage where all they want is something colorful to move around in front of them, preferably accompanied with jingly whoopsy sounds. Do you people really need an actual computer game for that? Isn't Youtube enough?
What are you talking about? He did quite a few of these numerous times. The first thing he did was poke fun at Nintendo fans, he went on and on about Mario being a rehash, and made a quick shot about the Gamepad despite this being a perfect game for the controller.Johnny Novgorod said:
He didn't poke fun at Nintendo fans, he poked fun at Nintendo for forcing them to ditch fan-made levels and pay for something that's been by and large free for quite a while now; he never said Mario is a rehash but rather has devolved along the lines of the first game, and the only thing he said about the Wii U controller was that he hadn't used it in a while.simple64 said:
He compared the fans to children, "devolved along the lines of their first game" (which he went on more than that) is a shot at it being a rehash, and your right about the gamepad thing. He may have not directly stated Mario was a rehash (and of of ideas), but he said Mario is a rehash (and out of ideas).Johnny Novgorod said:
Frankly, I'm not too pissed, I knew what I was getting when I saw a Mario game for review, but I would have liked it if he spent more time telling me about the game and less on his views on Nintendo. Add the fact that he was factually wrong on a few points, and you'll get a pretty shabby critique.
Well that is at least something. I do like nintendo, their first party games are always great. Though i do Hope they're using all their creativity on the next Zelda.CaitSeith said:
Sycophantic behaviour aside, I have to say I'm disappointed with this. And not because of the game itself but because of Yahtzee's downhill freefall into spectacle that rivals reality television. I remember that there was a time when Yahtzee was an entertaining critic who could point out the flaws of a game in a funny -- if slightly cynical -- way without angrily trashing every game in the vein of an intellectually challenged, poorly educated Youtube LPer.
That's changed.
I don't know if it's the money, or whether he's taken a blow to the head, but I could actually hear the anger in this. That's not something I like hearing. It isn't at all constructive, not even for more critical perspectives. He's sounding more and more like Ebert did, as if the ghost of Ebert has possessed poor Yahtzee and is now using him to express a dire hatred for video games. This doesn't work for me at all.
I haven't watched Yahtzee in a while, now. The last time I came back and poked a video was about six months back and that was quite angry, I hoped he would improve and recover from his head injury. It's just not the case. This isn't even intelligent any more. It's just schlock. No, I'm not a Nintendo fan. I just clicked a video that I thought might raise his ire to see if he's still spewing so much hate around.
I miss the Yahtzee from a few years back. All I get from him now is that he's a very, very angry man and anyone who disagrees with him is a 'stupid poopy poo-poo head.'
It's disappointing.
I miss funny and critical. He's angry now than Angry Joe ever was. And acting less intelligently. It's very unfortunate. This is meant to be criticism of the critic, as I'm disappointed by his descending spiral into madness. I think that whatever baggage he has should be left out of this job. And if he's unable to do that... maybe it's time for a new job?
And I'm not a hater, I was a Yahtzee fan at one time. I used to think he had some smarts to his name. Now I'm embarrassed to ever have watched.
Tell me you don't hear all that anger. He makes Groundskeeper Willy sound like a Buddhist monk by comparison.
That's changed.
I don't know if it's the money, or whether he's taken a blow to the head, but I could actually hear the anger in this. That's not something I like hearing. It isn't at all constructive, not even for more critical perspectives. He's sounding more and more like Ebert did, as if the ghost of Ebert has possessed poor Yahtzee and is now using him to express a dire hatred for video games. This doesn't work for me at all.
I haven't watched Yahtzee in a while, now. The last time I came back and poked a video was about six months back and that was quite angry, I hoped he would improve and recover from his head injury. It's just not the case. This isn't even intelligent any more. It's just schlock. No, I'm not a Nintendo fan. I just clicked a video that I thought might raise his ire to see if he's still spewing so much hate around.
I miss the Yahtzee from a few years back. All I get from him now is that he's a very, very angry man and anyone who disagrees with him is a 'stupid poopy poo-poo head.'
It's disappointing.
I miss funny and critical. He's angry now than Angry Joe ever was. And acting less intelligently. It's very unfortunate. This is meant to be criticism of the critic, as I'm disappointed by his descending spiral into madness. I think that whatever baggage he has should be left out of this job. And if he's unable to do that... maybe it's time for a new job?
And I'm not a hater, I was a Yahtzee fan at one time. I used to think he had some smarts to his name. Now I'm embarrassed to ever have watched.
Tell me you don't hear all that anger. He makes Groundskeeper Willy sound like a Buddhist monk by comparison.