Zero Punctuation: The Sims 3
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you what? uh-oh...Rajin Cajun said:I accept thy duel knave!CaptainCalvin said:
oh look a 50-foot flaming iguana of death!!! *runs away to parts unknown*
I read the first two pages of posts, and have yet to read a comment from someone who's played the game, or seems like they've played it.
For those bitching that the Sims 3 is a bad game because of its genre or its formula, there are lots of us out in the gaming world (including myself) who think that, for example, first person shooter games suck ass, etc. So your complaint is completely pointless because it's based on personal opinion.
Both Yahtzee and John Funk neglected to mention the additions to some of the already-existing content from Sims 2, such as the addition of another life stage (young adult), or the many many more options you have when interacting with other Sims and objects. Some big updates were made, like being able to explore and interact with the whole town and everyone in it. You'd probably have to play Sims 2 in depth before playing Sims 3 to notice some of the smaller changes, but they're there, and fans of the game like myself are enjoying their addition.
As for the customization options, like being able to completely make your house and furniture any colour you could possibly want it, fans think it's neat to be able to recreate people you know and places you've been to. I heard some of the first things fans were doing was recreating the sets of their favourite TV shows.
If you like the game, great, but if not, there's no need to rip it. Sims fans don't go around ripping the Halo series or the Mortal Kombat series because they think it's stupid.
For those bitching that the Sims 3 is a bad game because of its genre or its formula, there are lots of us out in the gaming world (including myself) who think that, for example, first person shooter games suck ass, etc. So your complaint is completely pointless because it's based on personal opinion.
Both Yahtzee and John Funk neglected to mention the additions to some of the already-existing content from Sims 2, such as the addition of another life stage (young adult), or the many many more options you have when interacting with other Sims and objects. Some big updates were made, like being able to explore and interact with the whole town and everyone in it. You'd probably have to play Sims 2 in depth before playing Sims 3 to notice some of the smaller changes, but they're there, and fans of the game like myself are enjoying their addition.
As for the customization options, like being able to completely make your house and furniture any colour you could possibly want it, fans think it's neat to be able to recreate people you know and places you've been to. I heard some of the first things fans were doing was recreating the sets of their favourite TV shows.
If you like the game, great, but if not, there's no need to rip it. Sims fans don't go around ripping the Halo series or the Mortal Kombat series because they think it's stupid.
It's fair enough that Yahtzee criticises women in generalisation, after all he has done the same to males in his other productions. If there's any rule for fairness in comedy, it is that all groups get mocked, rather than one or a few, and Yahtzee follows that creed in terms of his overall output of content. We can hardly expect him to slip in a joke against males in this particular video without it looking overly politically correct.
I would also point out that Yahtzee's reviews aren't even intended to be objective, being of the comedy genre, so expecting objectivity from them is not a proper approach.
Zero Punctuation's primary focus is not fact but comedy. If such comedy leads to some useful facts about the reviewed game, that's good, but really the series is constructed to make us laugh while criticising virtually every franchise under the sun, forcing them to improve under high expectations.
Besides which, criticism, especially of the constructive form (which, if you look deeply at Yahtzee's reviews, at what his overall message is rather than the statements, you will see) can lead to the improvement of our understanding of those franchises. This can mean better consumer thinking in the future, and better sales for higher quality games.
If you don't want Yahtzee to rip apart somewhat vulnerable feelings of enjoyment (vulnerable I say, only from experience, as he has made me enjoy the odd series less before) that you've been giving yourself by playing the series in question, don't watch the review. A review's primary function is to inform people about a game before they get it; if you have the game and already enjoy it, then watching a review is pointless. Yahtzee's funny, but not if he's criticising something you already spent $100+ on.
Ah, thank you for that link. I was aware that there had been such an experiment, though I didn't know the name of it. Very interesting stuff.GrinningManiac said:
That's interesting, but the fact that half of the content that was provided for Sims 2 wasn't in Sims 3 was pointed out by Yahtzee, which would imply that he has played Sims 2 for a substantial period of time.Nikolita said:
I would also point out that Yahtzee's reviews aren't even intended to be objective, being of the comedy genre, so expecting objectivity from them is not a proper approach.
Zero Punctuation's primary focus is not fact but comedy. If such comedy leads to some useful facts about the reviewed game, that's good, but really the series is constructed to make us laugh while criticising virtually every franchise under the sun, forcing them to improve under high expectations.
I beg to differ. There's no reason not to rip a game. Games don't have feelings. We can criticise them as much as we like, and it's still not going to change what the games themselves are.
Besides which, criticism, especially of the constructive form (which, if you look deeply at Yahtzee's reviews, at what his overall message is rather than the statements, you will see) can lead to the improvement of our understanding of those franchises. This can mean better consumer thinking in the future, and better sales for higher quality games.
If you don't want Yahtzee to rip apart somewhat vulnerable feelings of enjoyment (vulnerable I say, only from experience, as he has made me enjoy the odd series less before) that you've been giving yourself by playing the series in question, don't watch the review. A review's primary function is to inform people about a game before they get it; if you have the game and already enjoy it, then watching a review is pointless. Yahtzee's funny, but not if he's criticising something you already spent $100+ on.
Another great review by Yahtzee there I thought. Funny and it had enough vagina jokes in there to... *Insert funny analogy here.*
I see it now! Sims 3 = EVIL!!!
I just would like to know. Who won out of Infamous and Prototype last week?
With the whole other games main character doing something humiliating and sexy.
That's if anyone actually attempted a picture that is.
I Couldn't be bothered to read all the previous comments to find out if someone has put anything up about it. So if someone has put some thing up already could you reply to this comment or message me. Thanks.
I see it now! Sims 3 = EVIL!!!
I just would like to know. Who won out of Infamous and Prototype last week?
With the whole other games main character doing something humiliating and sexy.
That's if anyone actually attempted a picture that is.
I Couldn't be bothered to read all the previous comments to find out if someone has put anything up about it. So if someone has put some thing up already could you reply to this comment or message me. Thanks.
I know Yahtzee has always been a huge jerk, beating games till they cough blood, but is it just me, or does he seem even more angry then usual in this review? Not even at the game, but at the world in general. I won't say anything else other then it seems like he did this review right after getting in a fight with someone.
EDIT: By that I don't mean the obvious jokes, ext, I'm talking about the subtle underlined things that I really can't put into words, though I'm sure that makes my claim seem like a cop out.
EDIT: By that I don't mean the obvious jokes, ext, I'm talking about the subtle underlined things that I really can't put into words, though I'm sure that makes my claim seem like a cop out.
I'm much more interested in the future 'Ghostbusters' review. It certianly seems like a game that can't miss and I think it may melt the cold ice block of a heart in Yahtzee's chest. Though, I'm seriously doubting it. He could nitpick a nitpick. But it would be cool to see him get excited about a game again, like back in his 'Orange Box' review.zp=funiestthingever said:
Haha, I've never really liked the Sims franchise, it's nice to see I'm not alone in that. It's probably the absurd amount of expansions they keep releasing. How the hell am I supposed to keep up with all of those?!
I did enjoy the first Sims game, though. But mostly because I got a kick out of setting their houses on fire with them inside. Really, watching them eat, sleep, and complain gets old pretty quick, atleast for me.
I did enjoy the first Sims game, though. But mostly because I got a kick out of setting their houses on fire with them inside. Really, watching them eat, sleep, and complain gets old pretty quick, atleast for me.
once again yahtzee u amaze me with u truthfulness over all games tht i have come across. I played the sims 3 for the free time i had for 3 days just trying to make the fucker happy i wanted to get to last point of my atletic carrer but it was fucking shit i started as a young adult and i got to fucking old to friking get tht far! the game was like a bloody fucking routine over and over again. So my point is ur right like always keep up the work it. U make great videos because nothing is funnier then the truth
I was really worried when I saw he was reviewing the Sims. I love the Sims, and as Yahtzee has a habit of raging on every game, I was concerned about what he would say about it. Not that anything he said would stop me enjoying the game or whatever.
Anyway I can't help but feel he hasn't bothered to see everything the game has. It's a little more demanding in some areas than the previous games so other area have been simplified. Also you get a free extra town by registering your game on the Sims3 site so there is more than one town. And Sims2 was just as empty before the expansion packs started coming out.
Also if he sets everything on fire then he doesn't play the game very well. I've got like six families going and I don't have problems with any of them.
Sorry began ranting a bit, back to his actual review. I really enjoyed it, everything he said about the Sims was true in a way, but that doesn't make it bad. Then again he never said it was bad, nor did he say it was good. According to him it seems it just is apparently. And I can live with that.
Anyway I can't help but feel he hasn't bothered to see everything the game has. It's a little more demanding in some areas than the previous games so other area have been simplified. Also you get a free extra town by registering your game on the Sims3 site so there is more than one town. And Sims2 was just as empty before the expansion packs started coming out.
Also if he sets everything on fire then he doesn't play the game very well. I've got like six families going and I don't have problems with any of them.
Sorry began ranting a bit, back to his actual review. I really enjoyed it, everything he said about the Sims was true in a way, but that doesn't make it bad. Then again he never said it was bad, nor did he say it was good. According to him it seems it just is apparently. And I can live with that.
I also found the humor somewhat lacking here but I think it was largely on what he was reviewing. When you get right down to it Sim 3 is a real mixed bag. To EA's credit they did up the AI to where it is a little brighter then a dead firefly and you no longer have to micromanage the little people to do things like take a shower or go to the bathroom.civver said:
If there is one thing that nearly all simulation games have it is either too much micro management or not enough management. Peter Molyneux's 'The Movies' is another example where instead being able delegate things to your directors to keep problem stars in line you have to deal with them yourself. On the other extreme is something like Majesty where all you really can do is place where your heroes train, give them upgrades, and post rewards on stuff. So you can wind up in situations with your heroes in one corner of the map beating up on some gnomes while you are desperately trying them to defend your castle against the attack of a huge dragon and his minions by upping the reward on killing them like crazy.