Zero Punctuation: Tomb Raider: Underworld

ckam

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They still have a crappy camera, after 9 games where everyone complained about it in every single game. Sigh, I have no hope for those bastards.
 

Alexious

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*sigh* I wish some people would stop complaining about if his reviews are in depth or not, and just love them for what they are - a bit of fun ^^
 

darmey

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Is that unfunny guy gonna be on the end of EVERY video now? He reminds me of my little brother.
 

MonkeyPunch

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Excellent episode!
I'm still wiping my tears from:
"Innovation to this series, is what cheeseburgers are to a lactose intolerant Hindu" xD
"...because the camera is being opperated by a eight year old autistic child, hooked up to an I.V. filled with sherbet..."

classic!
 

PedroSteckecilo

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Sabbad said:
Lol, what do we think - did NewClassic really write that in six minutes, or did he prepare it in advance, deciding he was going to dislike the video review before he saw it anyway?
He's probably had an "Anti ZP" writeup in the works for awhile and decided to edit, then spring it upon the unsuspecting public when he felt it was most appropriate.
 

Baby Tea

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Oh NewClassic...I hope you don't get banned.

On topic: I was wondered, about half-way through, when he was going to talk about the actualy gameplay...but then Yahtzee made the very good point: It's a Tombraider game. They are all the same with minor upgrades. At that point, I could chuckle and enjoy the rest.
Well done.
 

BrightDeathFriend

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Nice one Yahtsee! I like how you think that a game should have more value to it than just a game character's breasts! ...game devs obviously think that people are morons if a woman with big boobs who gets wet and dirty would make people buy a game!
 

Top Dollar

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NewClassic said:
"Simply put, Zero Punctuation
has become something it's not."
Hurrr what does that even mean?

Good review, even though everyone probably could have guessed it would just be a badly disguised clone of the previous titles.
TITles.
Heh heh.
 

Ryuzaki

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Nice video Yahtzee. Some game series need to be dropped eventually, Sonic comes to mind and this may be another candidate.
 

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Been a long time viewer of Zero Punctuation and have never signed up to the Escapist until he mentioned Bristols!

I am from Bristol (UK) and most women born here have big breasts so I couldn't stop laughing when he referred to Lara's breasts as Bristols.

Good work as always Yahtzee!
 

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Vlane said:
Pretty good review to be honest but I still don't understand the "Lara == Bong" comparison.
I think it was meant to assume that the bulge at the bottom of the bong was her ass, but it would've looked like a really weird bong if it was just flat one side:p
 

The_Unknown_guy

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Good video, though not as funny as the older ones, I still agreed with yahtzee. All the gameplay is copied from earlier games (thankfully i never bought any of them but still borrowed them from a friend). All the stuff you're told to do makes no sense. I can't believe people are giving out about the fact that Yahtzee's videos aren't as funny as they used to be. Despite the fact that he says he's a reviewer, he's also a comedian and all great comedians run low on material from time to time. (Not that this video is the case, because I found it pretty funny)
 

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NewClassic said:

Zero Incentive - A NewClassic Rant on Zero Punctuation.

Like Lara, one thing Yahtzee seems to be showing signs of is just simply tiring out. Old, not particularly interesting, and going towards stale in terms of humor and style. Once upon a time, Zero Punctuation was a series that was more about game reviews with good humor and an active style the encouraged the viewer to be a part of the experience, laugh, and actually learn something about a game.

More lately, not too unlike G4, Yahtzee's been slowing down, and now he's leaning a lot more on humor instead of on game-content. Although this doesn't make it bad, it does make something of it that it is now. By and at large, Zero Punctuation is no longer about game reviews, and is now about gaming-related humor.

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Almost like it's a new show disguised in an old shell, I can't help but feel like Zero Punctuation is losing some of what made it better once upon a time. The loss of the clever song-choices at the beginning and end of the videos, the clever intelligent humor woven into the discussion of the games themselves, and actual review segments that really told the player more about the game than simply pointing out a series of flaws and making jokes about them. (Don't get me wrong, this was always present. But it feels stronger now, as if this is the main focus.)

I'd like to point out here that I'm not calling this video series bad. What it is has simply become something different. As much as I'd like to encourage the video series, I'd rather say take a step back and look into it's roots. Some of the things that made Zero Punctuation so clever is rapidly becoming a thing of the past. Maybe I'm speaking only to myself here, but I'd like to think the series could return to what made it so strong to begin with.

Now, I'd like to take a moment to perhaps stave off some dissent before it gets to a point of argument rather than debate. I'm not here to attack Yahtzee. I feel like he could be doing better with this video series than he currently is, and I see no harm in saying as much.

Though if I were, I hope we would all understand how little it would accomplish. Small time curmudgeons like me won't reduce Yahtzee to tears, considering how little he cares about us. As small-time viewers , we're more here to provide traffic and watch something we enjoy, with the commentary being nothing other than banal time-wasting, and hopefully some discussion as to the very limited review-content of Yahtzee's latest ZP video.

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To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what I'm accomplishing here. Fans of the series will, especially those currently watching each video with bated breath, are likely going to continue to be fans of the series regardless of what I have to say. Ultimately, though, my opinions are what individualizes me, as well as what is important. Like all comments on these videos, it really shows the power of opinions as a commentative medium. (Admittedly, a lot of opinions completely mirror Yahtzee's, regardless of game or opinion.)

What would not surprise me is if this comment is received poorly. Maybe it's my cynical side talking, but I'd hardly believe that many people will appreciate this opinion; even only because it disagrees with Yahtzee. I've never really understood the almost crusader-like fervor that fans of the series attracts, and I find that no matter how often I watch the videos, there's always something about Yahtzee's opinion that I disagree with.

Not that small time critics like myself do well making posts like these, as they often wind up dead, or carrying on flame wars. And if you wanted my honest opinion, I'd suggest how little all of it matters because I don't think this series will just turn over and die. A lot of it is because that the series still has merit on its own. "Mankind Has Yet to Recognize My Genius" is and will always be a misnomer, because the term genius has so much of a subjective slant to it.

Admittedly, this video seems to like it's using a lot of "too obvious" jokes, and he manages to completely dodge the game review. Entirely. (Okay, maybe he touches on it a little, but for the length of the video, it's largely sketch comedy.)

Though he seems to hate the series, and yet jumps on this one simply because... I'm rather confused by the entire experience. Why? It doesn't make sense to me.

By and at large, I'm not particularly pleased. I feel like this series could really return to how clever it once was, and recover that balance of subtlety and blatant humor that it once had. As time progresses, though, I feel like I'm only fooling myself into thinking that it could ever be that way ever again.

Maybe I'm just some cranky old gamer looking at something, and wishing it were more like something he enjoyed some time ago, instead of just occasionally alluding to it like it is now.

(Although, bonus points for the Unskippable ad at the end of the video. Good series, although it already has plenty of viewers.)
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I've been thinking most of what you've just said for a long time, I just haven't been able to put it into words. Thank you for consolidating my opinion, and for perhaps enlightening one or more Zero Punctuation fanatics who would otherwise be stuck in a never-ending loop of blind submission to Mr. Croshaw.
 

jhonka

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I have to agree with newclassic. Yahzee is slowing down. Atleast the newest review felt more like an angry rant instead of "hilariously cutting". It hardly had anything to do with the game except for the 8 second line about someone being sort of dead or something. After watching I did not know what's wrong with it, except that obsessively competitive bordeline psychopath character is not likable and her adversary is or atleast is not as much unlikable. If game needs to be verbally assassinated(they mostly do) it should be like yahzee used to do it, piss-your-pants funny!

First miss, that's my opinion!
 

TheGhostOfSin

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Sabbad said:
Lol, what do we think - did NewClassic really write that in six minutes, or did he prepare it in advance, deciding he was going to dislike the video review before he saw it anyway?
Knowing NC like I do, I'd say it is entirely possible for him to have wrote that in 6 minutes, he has a monitor for a head.
101998 said:
Yahtzee is the Jezza of Video Games.
Jezza is the Jezza of Video Games. http://www.australiangamer.com/news/1510_jeremy_clarkson_declares_videogames_the_answer_to_world_peace.html

Although not as 'laugh out loud' as ZP used to be, I still enjoy it more so than most things I watch.
 

Falien

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Though I agree with some of the points NewClassic makes (the music clips before/after the video did add a lot), I have to disagree on the point about imbalance between review and jokes. I have played most of the games reviewed in Zero Punctuation and I'd say that, more often than not, Yahtzee presents a quite complete picture of the game. What's more, he usually manages to emphasize on points that others would miss - I found myself saying "Good thing someone else noticed!" more than once.

In conclusion, I'd say that if there is an overly-big reliance on jokes lately, it is more of the games' fault for not being good enough, which could be the start of a (long) discussion on whether Yahtzee deliberately reviews bad games, or are bad games the norm nowadays and it's not his fault.

I still enjoy the series, not out of any kind of devotion or anything, but because Yahtzee usually says what I'm thinking.