Zero Punctuation: Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception
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While I can agree on some points, I don't Yahtzee's main thesis holds up as well this time around. Sure, if comparing Uncharted 1 and 2, they were pretty much point-to-point similar, only 2 had a shinier coat of paint. But I think 3 has a different focus this time around, choosing to characterize Drake and Company instead of rehashing the plot of 1 and 2 again. Sure, the end result of a magic treasure w/ evil side effects is still there, but there isn't a supernatural element to it this time around.
I actually really like that method of story telling.sazzrah said:
Basically, Elena asked Drake to marry her between games. Drake freaked out and left her, but kept the engagement ring because he still loved her.
At the end of the game, he put it on. So basically, he was saying 'Yes, I'll marry you now.'
It has additional symbolism! Drake was trading in Drake's Ring (Adventure and fortune) for Elena's Ring (Setting down)
If you have a sawed off, you can kill them before the melee sequence starts. Only managed it once, though.Dickdatduck said:
The only problem I had with the game was those big brutes who run up to you before you can shoot them and force you into a melee sequence. I always dreaded seeing them. Not because they were hard to beat but because they quickly grew tedious.
I'm surprised that you didn't mention this as part of Shooter Season 2011, especially because it's another third of a trilogy that was solely in this console generation along with Gears, Modern Warfare, and Resistance.
And sure, this generation has gone on for 6 years already, but it still means that gaming has gone far past Mario's old ways of being in a new main series game only once technical upgrades happen.
And sure, this generation has gone on for 6 years already, but it still means that gaming has gone far past Mario's old ways of being in a new main series game only once technical upgrades happen.
What's the fuss? There's three of them in my town, though to be fair none of them workSoviet Heavy said:
Glad to find some people who agree with me!Truly-A-Lie said:
I have always thought the shooting in Uncharted is passable at best, I like the platforming (a lot) but it is linear, and the set pieces are great, but this game was like a patchwork quilt of them.
For me 2 was a much stronger experience overall, and the similarity in stories between 2 and 3, and 3 and The Last Crusade (hats off to Yahtzee, I hadn't realised) is laughable.
The IGN reviewer called it "possibly my favourite game of all time". Were we playing the same thing?! Have you even played the second one?
Also to be totally honest, I don't find them that dissimilar to the later Tomb Raider games, just a little slicker, much prettier and slightly more cohesive. I can't understand why Underworld got very average scores, and Uncharted gets worshipped.
Glad to find some people who agree with me!Truly-A-Lie said:
I have always thought the shooting in Uncharted is passable at best, I like the platforming (a lot) but it is linear, and the set pieces are great, but this game was like a patchwork quilt of them.
For me 2 was a much stronger experience overall, and the similarity in stories between 2 and 3, and 3 and The Last Crusade (hats off to Yahtzee, I hadn't realised) is laughable.
The IGN reviewer called it "possibly my favourite game of all time". Were we playing the same thing?! Have you even played the second one?
Also to be totally honest, I don't find them that dissimilar to the later Tomb Raider games, just a little slicker, much prettier and slightly more cohesive. I can't understand why Underworld got very average scores, and Uncharted gets worshipped.
well thats how most of us Americans think of England. Also having bad teeth an oppressing the Irish/Desi people would also be included. But then again, most people seem to think that we Americans are a bunch of gun happy, fat, religious, nationalist.Glowbug said:
Wow, wasn't expecting Yahtzee to actually admit he liked it. He seems to be going soft. Other than that very fine points; the reason for going on the ship is so utterly contrived that it's ridiculous. "Hey there's this one guy who knows where Ubar is but instead of the leaders of the organisation that wants Ubar taking him, the pirates obviously got to him! Better go save him!" I assume Marlowe/Lazarevic/Navarro all buy their henchmen from some magical cloning agency which forgets to give the soldiers brains. Hey, that could be the next game! Shutting down the warehouse!
It was shown for like a second and was mainly just to make it abundantly clear where they were, as it was the very first scene.Soviet Heavy said:
Can't resist nerding out on the name, so spoilers.DVS BSTrD said:
It's implied he was named Drake because he had a crappy childhood and he identified with Sir Francis for whatever reason. After he left the orphanage he wanted to make his own identity and judging by his reluctance to give his name, he just sorta made it up on the spot when Sully saved his ass.
Why Yes, yes I wouldCasual Shinji said:
I also noticed in Syria I'm pretty sure I rolled right off a ledge with treasure on it and no way to climb back up
wills_b said:
You have to actually figure it out by using the context clues and what you know of the characters. Like how Cutter was a friend of Elena's that Drake roped into helping him with his scheme and that Talbot is an Alchemist. (Actually, the game basically tells you Talbot is an Alchemist if you search around the library some, so it isn't really something you have to figure out so much as pay attention.)
Why does everything have to spelled out for people nowadays? One of the developers even had to go and explain how Talbot did all of the things he did (Vanishing suddenly, surviving getting shot, etc) because of how many people complained about it.
Why does everything have to spelled out for people nowadays? One of the developers even had to go and explain how Talbot did all of the things he did (Vanishing suddenly, surviving getting shot, etc) because of how many people complained about it.
The neighbors were probably all but ready to call the cops with the amount of mammoth roars coming from my house when I was trying to navigate those fucking beams. I ultimately got it though, but at the price of my sanity and my throat.crotalidian said:
I don't get it, just because the villains are foreigners then the game is racist? Because we all know there aren't assholes on other countries than America, right?
Naughty Dog has a habit of releasing a trilogy of games, and then they stop. However, as seen with previous titles, a third party might get the rights to it and whore out the franchise for a racing game or a Mario Party knock off, or both.
OT: Yahtzee not liking Uncharted 3? Now that's a surprise.
OT: Yahtzee not liking Uncharted 3? Now that's a surprise.
Is that a Jak X reference? Either way, love it.daxterx2005 said:
OT, I completely agree with Yahtzee in this review. Too much of a rehash of Uncharted 2, the levels didn't feel remotely connected (especially the pirate tangent), the plot was full of holes, and I laughed out loud at the behind the scenes part where they admitted to having no connected story for a long time.
That being said, still love the Uncharted gameplay, and unlike Yahtzee I like all the characters so I enjoy getting to see them play off each other. Still, U3 is definitely downhill from U2, so I'm hoping Naughty Dog does what few developers other than them are brave enough to do and comes up with a new IP. Preferably soon.
Probably not cart racing. CTR was carts, Jak X was more like their world style of actual cars, so Uncharted Racing will probably be jeeps in the jungle or something like that. I look forward to seeing how they work set pieces onto race tracks, though.daxterx2005 said:
It's called a spoiler box. Use one next time instead of ruining the game for people who haven't had a chance to play it yet like a jackass.Kopikatsu said: