Oh and Player vs player's wikipage got one day changed to "PVP sucks".
Guess who? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=32072999
Guess who? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=32072999
Zero Punctuation: Webcomics
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firstly, Yahtzee never mentioned the names of any of the comics (bar PA) but I think it's obviously he's throwing alot of bile at CAD (and others too, like the whole mega-man sprite thing - ripping the likes of 8 bit theatre - well I lolled)
The internet has always had a bad run whenever it trys to deal with things that are 'real' - I've seen things on forums that make me upset that I share a species with these people.
It was a very brave, and a very stupid move for Buckley to do the miscarriage plotline for two reasons:
1) Even if his intentions were good, and he decided to make a serious go of tackling the big issues, he must have known that there would be trolls and sharks waiting to pounce on him and rip him. In defending himself vehemently and vocally the way he has, he comes across as nothing but a dick.
2) If his intentions were only to stir the trolls and sharks in order to boost flagging readership figures, then he's a dick.
Myself, I'm waiting for the end of this plot to see where it goes, to see whether or not he actually means to tackle issues and is really a nice guy trying something different or is just a media whore.
But just remember, he also tried something different with his comic voting thing earlier in the year (Ethan space archaeologist or some such) in an attempt to gather people in before unleashing this beast.
The internet has always had a bad run whenever it trys to deal with things that are 'real' - I've seen things on forums that make me upset that I share a species with these people.
It was a very brave, and a very stupid move for Buckley to do the miscarriage plotline for two reasons:
1) Even if his intentions were good, and he decided to make a serious go of tackling the big issues, he must have known that there would be trolls and sharks waiting to pounce on him and rip him. In defending himself vehemently and vocally the way he has, he comes across as nothing but a dick.
2) If his intentions were only to stir the trolls and sharks in order to boost flagging readership figures, then he's a dick.
Myself, I'm waiting for the end of this plot to see where it goes, to see whether or not he actually means to tackle issues and is really a nice guy trying something different or is just a media whore.
But just remember, he also tried something different with his comic voting thing earlier in the year (Ethan space archaeologist or some such) in an attempt to gather people in before unleashing this beast.
I don't doubt that. But as I said, the comic lost my interest sometime a few years ago, and I only read it now whenever someone decides to link me to it. It just isn't my kind of webcomic anymore.David_Cat said:
Tim Buckley? Immature.
Effect on his webcomic? Very little, unless he uses as a soapbox, which he does from time to time.
Effect on his webcomic? Very little, unless he uses as a soapbox, which he does from time to time.
CADbortion Comic Shops
Further adding to the webcomic's mind-numbingly retarded pool of unfunny, undramatic plot drama, Tim Buckley decided it would be fun to kill off the bi- the female character's unborn child (This is probably the funniest comic he's done to date). When asked why he thought a miscarriage would be a particularly good plot turn, he gave a tl;dr response on his website about character building and plot or some shit. This shows that not only is Buckley an unfunny hack, but he's also a fucking lunatic for thinking that his shitty little webcomic actually has anything close to an engaging storyline or good characterization. Also, he would have had to make a new drawing of a fat *****, and that was too much work. Naturally, some wept, some raged, and others fired up Photoshop to extract some laughs from the situation.
Fu- Buckley would go on to thank his fanbase "from the bottom of my heart for your overwhelming support" for all the emails he got. Yeah, that's right. Comfort me! The guy who drew a comic with no words and made the ***** lose her spawn, not actual women who miscarry. Attention-whore Douchefag Status confirmed.
Only time will tell if Fuckley chooses to see this intentionally unfunny plot twist through, complete with crushed relationships, grief counseling, alcohol and substance abuse, and his author inserted fantasy persona maturing into a real man and taking serious charge of the situation, AND sustain this for the months and maybe years it would take to properly unwind this tragedy, or if he'll just jump the shark again and dive right back into the stale shitfest that is his comic as if nothing ever happened.
Further adding to the webcomic's mind-numbingly retarded pool of unfunny, undramatic plot drama, Tim Buckley decided it would be fun to kill off the bi- the female character's unborn child (This is probably the funniest comic he's done to date). When asked why he thought a miscarriage would be a particularly good plot turn, he gave a tl;dr response on his website about character building and plot or some shit. This shows that not only is Buckley an unfunny hack, but he's also a fucking lunatic for thinking that his shitty little webcomic actually has anything close to an engaging storyline or good characterization. Also, he would have had to make a new drawing of a fat *****, and that was too much work. Naturally, some wept, some raged, and others fired up Photoshop to extract some laughs from the situation.
Fu- Buckley would go on to thank his fanbase "from the bottom of my heart for your overwhelming support" for all the emails he got. Yeah, that's right. Comfort me! The guy who drew a comic with no words and made the ***** lose her spawn, not actual women who miscarry. Attention-whore Douchefag Status confirmed.
Only time will tell if Fuckley chooses to see this intentionally unfunny plot twist through, complete with crushed relationships, grief counseling, alcohol and substance abuse, and his author inserted fantasy persona maturing into a real man and taking serious charge of the situation, AND sustain this for the months and maybe years it would take to properly unwind this tragedy, or if he'll just jump the shark again and dive right back into the stale shitfest that is his comic as if nothing ever happened.
http://www.realmofatland.com/Heroic One said:
and
http://www.lfgcomic.com/
are on my reading list, not directly gaming comics, but tend to reference alot of fantasy games (LFG did this to start with, referencing WoW quite a bit, but has since gotten into it's stride)
pluses are that the artists can draw, and that there is enough text to make a joke/plot without sacrificing graphics
Also, check out http://www.odd-fish.net/ totally not gaming related, but excellently drawn and pun-tastically funny - case in point: http://www.odd-fish.net/viewing.php?&comic_id=73
And you guys will also notice that the CAD Wiki page makes no mention of any criticism other than this latest Zero Punctuation video. And given the massive series of Internet shitstorms that have gone off because of Buckley, I find that highly telling.
Best case scenario? Someone's attempting to brown-nose their way up the ranks.
Worst case scenario? Buckley's not yet discovered this latest ZP (Or he considers it below his notice).
Edit:
Best case scenario? Someone's attempting to brown-nose their way up the ranks.
Worst case scenario? Buckley's not yet discovered this latest ZP (Or he considers it below his notice).
Edit:
From CAD's news:
Translation? "I'm going to either not focus on the fucking characters at the centre of these events or fast-forward past most - if not all - of an inevitable source of character development."
I noticed this too, the criticism part has gotten shorter hasn't it? Before it would go for more than 3 lines of text.Blayze said:
As always, I laughed at today's video. And, to be honest, I'm a CAD fan myself. Even though Yahtzee was very negative with his view on Ctrl-Alt-Del, I'd be honored if I was Tim Buckley. If I had a webcomic and someone like Yahtzee made a video about it - despite not naming any names - I'd be excited, even if it was very negative. I respect Yahtzee's opinion and I do agree that there are a lot of generic, run-of-the-mill webcomics out there. I can't wait to see what he talks about next week.
I had to create an account just so I could comment on this video. One of the best in a long while, Yahtzee. I was a CAD reader until he started to go down this weird slope of "I'm trying this out, seeing where my writing goes" crap of a terrible, creepy, awful storyline. Its like the guy thinks he's Stephen King. I mean, he's not, he writes a comic. On the internet.
Applause to ZP for calling out the "balls in his mouth" taste this storyline gave everyone
Applause to ZP for calling out the "balls in his mouth" taste this storyline gave everyone
imo, I for one like CAD, and it strikes me that Yahtzee has stated his dislike of this comic before, yet he still checks up on it enough to see the latest story line and finds time to vent about it. In the end we are all entitled to our own opinion, but i can understand buckleys reaction to ZP review, criticism fair enough, but Yahtzee completely tore CAD to pieces. No one is forcing you to go and read these comics just because they are there, if you dont like it, dont read it. Just like games, music, art, film and anything else I can think of, use viewer discretion.
Edit: before anyone flames me, I still love ZP because of his no BS assessments.
Edit: before anyone flames me, I still love ZP because of his no BS assessments.
"Shortly after a story arc in which the female character had a miscarriage, CAD's number of site hits began to decline."thebobmaster said:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/ctrlaltdel-online.com
I think I've seen this somewhere before, like, oh, I don't know...Encyclopaedia Dramatica? Congratulations on having figured out how to work the copy and paste function on your keyboard.Melo The Yellow said:
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/CTRL_ALT_Delete#CADbortion_Comic_Shops
See, I have as well, now we have something in common.
Ok this is quite retarded, the majority of all these posts are for bashing CAD, which only seems to be done after Yahtzee makes a movie about it. I liked this movie as well, it's funny, but I enjoyed reading CAD too. Yes the miscarriage thing wasn't funny, but it adds a bit more depth to the whole thing for me. That is MY opinion, I'm not defending anything here. All I'm saying is that the bashing of this webcomic has only arrived after Yahtzee started it, which makes me wonder where everyone's loyalties lie here; all in favor of Yahtzee or do you have a personal opinion about this?
I don't doubt a lot of people here don't like CAD, it still looks like most of these are jumping on the Yahtzee bandwagon here. I enjoy his reviews as much as the next guy, and although all his points are valid, at the end of the day I still sometimes disagree with him. Not entirely, but some games I enjoyed playing alot until the edge wore off, like Oblivion.
If you don't like something on the internet, like CAD or ZP, the great thing is you can ignore it to death, it's not enforced upon you. If Buckley wants to draw a comic and let a woman have a miscarriage, let him, no one is forcing you to read the damned thing. Same thing goes for some ZP reviews. If you don't agree with Yahtzee when he says a game is shit, then say what you want to say and leave it at that. It's not like anyone of these guys is going to apologise for writing about something you don't like.
Now I hope it's pretty clear I'm not on a crusade for either Yahtzee or Buckley, but what I will say is that I checked the CAD forum and it seemed to be alot easier on the 'Yahtzee is a douchebag' commenting than most of the people in this thread. Could be coincidence, but it does stand out.
That being said I'll say I enjoyed this movie and found the CAD reference within the first few minutes so it was quite a funny experience.
I don't doubt a lot of people here don't like CAD, it still looks like most of these are jumping on the Yahtzee bandwagon here. I enjoy his reviews as much as the next guy, and although all his points are valid, at the end of the day I still sometimes disagree with him. Not entirely, but some games I enjoyed playing alot until the edge wore off, like Oblivion.
If you don't like something on the internet, like CAD or ZP, the great thing is you can ignore it to death, it's not enforced upon you. If Buckley wants to draw a comic and let a woman have a miscarriage, let him, no one is forcing you to read the damned thing. Same thing goes for some ZP reviews. If you don't agree with Yahtzee when he says a game is shit, then say what you want to say and leave it at that. It's not like anyone of these guys is going to apologise for writing about something you don't like.
Now I hope it's pretty clear I'm not on a crusade for either Yahtzee or Buckley, but what I will say is that I checked the CAD forum and it seemed to be alot easier on the 'Yahtzee is a douchebag' commenting than most of the people in this thread. Could be coincidence, but it does stand out.
That being said I'll say I enjoyed this movie and found the CAD reference within the first few minutes so it was quite a funny experience.