Zero Punctuation: XCOM: Enemy Unknown
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Yep, I finally draw my fanart for this episode!!!
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This is why I despise the gaming industry anymore. People are so used to game companies TOTALLY ruining a game when they remake it that they will lavish praise endless on a company that manages to not completely convert a game to something new and sucky. As someone who has played X-COM: UFO Defense (The old one) for probably 500+ hours minimum, I was disgusted with this game. Why?
Time Units. Gone. By relegating all tactics to simple one/two move steps and then turning everything into pre-generated battles with far less randomness than the previous this game is a far cry from the original. I was all ready to pre-order this game, then I played the demo. I will never buy this XCOM because I do not support the dumbing down of a great strategy game just to have mainstream appeal. For God's sake, 3/4ths of the people reviewing and talking about this game have never played the original UFO Defense - for these people it doesn't matter. For those of us who have played the better more in-depth game, it does.
Firaxis, you have dumbed down Civilization with Civ V and now you've dumbed down XCOM with Enemy Unknown. Please, stop ruining my favorite strategy series...EA already drove C&C into the ground so I'm starting to run out of titles...
Time Units. Gone. By relegating all tactics to simple one/two move steps and then turning everything into pre-generated battles with far less randomness than the previous this game is a far cry from the original. I was all ready to pre-order this game, then I played the demo. I will never buy this XCOM because I do not support the dumbing down of a great strategy game just to have mainstream appeal. For God's sake, 3/4ths of the people reviewing and talking about this game have never played the original UFO Defense - for these people it doesn't matter. For those of us who have played the better more in-depth game, it does.
Firaxis, you have dumbed down Civilization with Civ V and now you've dumbed down XCOM with Enemy Unknown. Please, stop ruining my favorite strategy series...EA already drove C&C into the ground so I'm starting to run out of titles...
Butthurt, much? Most people I saw, who played the original prefer the 2-point-system as it forces you to think more about what you do as you can't just go in, shoot and run away. You also can't just cheaply throw your troops at the enemy anymore because even a single dead Rookie can hurt your current squad quite a lot.Shintsu2 said:
And removing a lot of the unneeded management of stuff that was just there for the sake of being there is also an improvement.
Stop wearing your pink nostalgia goggles and see that this game improves on the flaws the original had.
As the 1/4 (probably more than that, but whatever) that you quoted above, I loved, LOVED the original UFO:Enemy Unknown, I even enjoyed TFTD despite its horrible bugs because it was more XCom. This is one of the most faithful remakes in basically every aspect that I've ever played. It's not dumbed down, it's different. As opposed to the strategy of "take one step out from a wall, miss twice, step back" with 5 different soldiers, it makes you think about different things like flanking and elevated positions. I'd ask you to give it a chance, but the odds are that you're so entrenched in your "I am right" superiority you'll ignore the fact that I am one of the people for whom "it does matter".Shintsu2 said:
I'd just ask you what strategy you can use in the first you can't in the second? Besides suiciding rookies to open a small craft with 6 sectoids in it, of course.
Oh, knock it off. No one ever complains when the entire casts of games are voiced by people with British accents, and there are a fucking ton of those.Squilookle said:
Those games don't pretend to have a roster of characters from all over the globe. XCOM does.ReinWeisserRitter said:
So you prefer time units because it means you can do more stuff. That's cool. The two-move system means that you can't do as much, but that in turn means that you can't just kick open a door, see there's three sectoids in the room and run straight back out unscathed. Meat-shielding also takes the risk out of your actions - don't want to lose your colonel? Send in a rookie! You've got 20 more of 'em there, and you can even reuse them because they have enough TU left to run straight back out!Shintsu2 said:
Between expendable 'wards', the ability to undo ill-considered moves without having to wait for the game to reload and the amount of stuff that's not even situational, as soon as you have some decent weapons and guys who can aim them, it stops being hard. Sure, you can still get dicked over by the dice, but it's still basically a Sunday picnic from then to Cydonia.
Civ 5 removed stacking so you can't just throw your whole army at the enemy in one go. Same thing - some people don't like the change, but if you can't even see why it was done, you've gone past the point of no return into blind fanboyism. Abandon all hope, ye who enter.
Captcha: hug me
Please don't, I'm worried it's contagious.
I think Yahtzee should stop listening to requests of fans altogether, ignore what's in high demand, and instead just review games he wants to review, regardless of relevance or popularity. I really hope he doesn't review 'Assassin's Creed III', actually. Am I interested in what he thinks of it? Yeah. But, quite frankly, I'd rather hear an inspired analysis on an obscure title that he sought out himself. I want to hear Yahtzee talk about things he wants to talk about, rather than talk about all of these big AAA titles that keep getting shoved in his face, causing him to keep thinking up new ways of delivering the same criticisms, because big releases keep making the same bloody mistakes.icychill21 said:
Half the time, the man's not interested. The reviews are still funny, and brilliantly-worded, but they lack the excitement present in his early reviews. That's why those older videos were so good, and it's also why 'Extra Punctuation' is so much more interesting, because he's not restricted and tied down, but is instead eager to present his opinions on a topic or title of his choice.
So yes, screw the demands of the rest of the gaming world. As far as I'm concerned, they should shove their requests back into whatever orifice they escaped from, and let Yahtzee review whatever the hell he wants to, because good writers thrive off of freedom, not boundaries or set topics. Besides, Yahtzee's always derived joy from pissing off his fanbase, and I can't think of any better way to do that (at this stage) than the outright denial of what they want.
Considering that he likes (or used to like) the series, I would say it's more than likely that one of the next reviews is AC3.MasterProcrastinator said:
After that... well, he might do Halo 4, but I highly doubt it, to be honest. He probably PLAYS it, but a review? Not really. Maybe some lines in Extra Punctuation...
Yeah. Because he's right: the old interface wasn't very good. And most of the 'customization' lost was unnecessary busywork. I don't want to individually select my soldiers' knee pads, shoulder pauldrons, waist pouches, the contents of their waist pouches...the list goes on. It might've been nice if they'd found a way to make base attacks practical, but given the fact that it'd been streamlined to just one base, it was best that it got left behind.DioWallachia said:
I...wait, what? I can't tell if you're happy or bitter right now. On one hand, you seem glad that XCOM got a good review, but the whole "blind dribbling fans" insult seems bizarrely out of place.Roman Monaghan said:
Christ, that'd be nice. If they could adapt the old Syndicate games as well as they did XCOM, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.Roman Monaghan said:
Wait...
He enjoyed a game?
That's modern... and a remake??!!
MADNESS O:
No but srsly I love this game and totally agree with the UFO thing. Fortunately there's mods to fix that.
He enjoyed a game?
That's modern... and a remake??!!
MADNESS O:
No but srsly I love this game and totally agree with the UFO thing. Fortunately there's mods to fix that.
I'd adore a new Populous game given the same treatment that XCom did. It would be amazing.DioWallachia said:
CAPTCHA: heartache
Yeah that's what I feel..
But there is a problem, both IP were sold long ago to a bunch of Korean MMORPG developers that will not release the games to Western audiences.DeimosMasque said:
I am not sure what option is worse: EA or the Koreans