Zero Suit Samus has a great character model

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VikingKing

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Wait, wait, wait. This is sexualized? A full body combat suit?

I know compared to her normal choice of power armor, she's underdressed, but that's just the contrast. If I had to guess the qualities that are sexualized....the high heeled boots, the lift and support boob area, and her hair is really not practical for combat. Overall it doesn't bother me. Sexuality itself is not an indication of weakness on women. No kind of sexuality is.

Overall, this is like the difference between Hawkeye and Iron Man to me. One is power, one is skill, both are good at taking out their enemies.
 

Andy Shandy

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Well I definitely disagree that it's a great character model, in particular the high heels are stupid, but I don't care enough about the Metroid franchise for it to affect me. I can see why others may care though.
 

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All right, just want to nip this in the bud:

Yes, it would be stupid for an actual fighter to wear high heels. It would also be stupid for an actual ape to wear a tie, and for an actual plumber to jump 30 feet in the air. It's a videogame. You can do that!
 

JimB

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josemlopes said:
That's the point. This isn't a real person, it's an animated character and even if she wasn't on heels you can bet that her ass would be as if she was (and her walk will be the same too).
So your argument is, "She'll be portrayed objectionably anyway, so fuck it, in for a dime, in for a dollar?"

VikingKing said:
Wait, wait, wait. This is sexualized? A full body combat suit?
In the context, yeah. She's wearing the kind of six-inch heels Lady Gaga wore for music videos a couple of albums ago. That is not a choice Samus Aran would make, but rather one that was made by a designer for seemingly not other reason than fetishizing her.
 

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So recently, Zero Suit Samus' new design has left the internet in a tizzy, particularly the new high heels. Now, this is, of course, an Internet Flash Firestorm, which will probably be forgotten in a week, but I've nothing better to do today and might as well get myself sucked in.

First of all, people are complaining that the character has now been 'too sexualized.' This is, in fact, stupid, since Samus has been sexualized in almost every game she's been in. For every 2D game, the faster you complete the game, the more undressed she is in the ending cinematic. Hell, she was even guilty of this in Brawl. Think about the first scene you see her in - dropping down from some air vent, the camera panning over her backside before we even see her face. My non-Nintendo cousins saw this and immediately started laughing at my attempts to explain, no really, she's a badass. So I fail to see how this is any worse.

Secondly, the heels really aren't that sexy. They're big, clunky, and look like a utilitarian piece of gear. Which they are. I remember hearing someone say that if you have rocket boots, a high heel makes sense, since you need a tube for the flames to shoot down. That may not have been the reasoning the designers had, but the point remains that the shoes seem like a standard powerup. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up in the next Metroid game.

Third - and I don't see a lot of people making this point - this new Zero Suit Samus is a really good character model. I'm serious, the design improves on a lot of flaws from Brawl. For example, in Brawl, the Zero suit looked just like it had in Zero Mission, its inception - an undergarment, something you wear so the Power suit doesn't get all sweaty. However, this begs the question of why you would wear such an armor into battle, as you only use it in Zero Mission when you have no other choice. The new Zero Suit looks a lot more functional, with the jet boots offering a strong offensive (no pun intended) capability. Also, the suit itself has a more intricate design, with multiple different colors to give the impression that it might actually be something you could wear in situations other than near total incapacitation. Aesthetically, it's a very streamlined design with a unique appeal. I thought the same thing with Rosalina as I thought here - it's a shame Nintendo doesn't make many new character designs, they're really good at it.

Well, that's all I have to say about the matter. I look forward to being told the 1,009 ways I'm wrong and a terrible person by this afternoon.

P.S. Some people are saying that they made Samus' boobs bigger. I didn't really notice. And you did. What does that say?
Wow there Tex. You can't use logic in an internet, feminism debate. You might actually have a valid point that way.

Sarcasm aside, all very good points, and for what it's worth, I think you are 100% correct.
 

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Matthew Jabour said:
All right, just want to nip this in the bud:

Yes, it would be stupid for an actual fighter to wear high heels. It would also be stupid for an actual ape to wear a tie, and for an actual plumber to jump 30 feet in the air. It's a videogame. You can do that!
So, what would your response be if they gave Mario high heels?
I mean, why not? It's a video-game, you could do that!

Or, for that matter, why not change Mario's character-design to look less cartoonish and more appealing for women and gay men? They could portray him as a hunky guy whose shirt disappears when he uses his firepowers or something.
 

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Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? As long as they don't fuck up her character like they did in Other M, I couldn't give a shit if I tried.
I think it matters more in the grand color scheme.

Now I'm not familiar at all with this character, but from what I've seen the heels clash with the rest of her design. They're too big, and the coloring doesn't match the cooler tones of the body suit. It looks like she has two power drills strapped to her feet.

So it's not so much the idea of her having heels - the fact that she's fighting with bangs that length and a giant pony tail flapping about seems just as impractical - it's that the way the heels look feel slapped on without much thought.
 

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When me and my friends used to play Tekken we used to remark on how badass it was that Nina could do all those crazy kicks in high heels.
We didn't find it sexy or trivialising, we found it impressive and cool.

Samus' high heels don't look very sexy, there's nothing sleek or attractive about them.
They're large and clunky, they make her feet look twice as big and the bright yellow clashes with the rest of her costume. Looking purely at the character design I would say the high heels and the wrist things look like pieces of mass produced emergency equipment. Designed to be functional but completely no-frills.

I can see why people would get a bit reactionary when hear about high heels and Samus being put together, but I don't think accusations of sexualisation are warranted in this case.
 

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Just lemme grab my explanation from the last one of these...

LunaticPanda said:
Ok, ok, think about this, the yellow parts on the bottom of the shoe and back of the heel, those are the "Jet" in "Jet boots", The jets on the BOTTOM of the shoe, allow for increased ability to jump, the jets on the BACK of the large heel, allow her to propel her foot forward instead of upward, and so, kick, Really. F***ing. Hard.
Also, the heels look perfectly able to flip closer to the soles of her feet and act more like regular shoes for situations where she is either
A) Wearing a power suit.
B) Does not need to kick and could use more jump, and so could aim more jets downward.

It may be stupid looking, and I may have thought this through more than the people who actually put them there, but it makes sense.

Explained, with each part, especially the heels, given purpose, probably-ish.
 

Pierre Poutine

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The problem with high heels is that they serve no function. No one in their right mind would wear them to a fight, in the same way that no one would have a boob window in their outfit [basically a great big glowing weak spot], because it's trading style/sex appeal over actually being a good fighter.

At the very least, Samus' heels are basically jet boots. They serve a practical function beyond a sort of sexual appeal. I also agree that, nothing about the rest of her design is overtly sexualized [and the heels aren't terribly sexy themselves].
 

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Lieju said:
Matthew Jabour said:
All right, just want to nip this in the bud:

Yes, it would be stupid for an actual fighter to wear high heels. It would also be stupid for an actual ape to wear a tie, and for an actual plumber to jump 30 feet in the air. It's a videogame. You can do that!
So, what would your response be if they gave Mario high heels?
I mean, why not? It's a video-game, you could do that!

Or, for that matter, why not change Mario's character-design to look less cartoonish and more appealing for women and gay men? They could portray him as a hunky guy whose shirt disappears when he uses his firepowers or something.
I would find that hilarious and they should totally do it. High heel power ups for everyone. As bad as you think it sounds there are people that would get behind those ideas.

Kinda like why you'd think an fatality would be turning people into babies but damnit it worked and it was funny.
 

Nazulu

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loa said:
Where the hell does this daft notion come from that samus has "always been sexualized" in every metroid game?
It can't be the games, that's for sure.
Yeah, it's the biggest load of crap. It's just a weak defense for the sexy anime Samus they're selling now.

As I've said countless times before, it couldn't be bad when it wasn't even a selling point in the classic games. 90% of people believed it was a guy called Metroid, it seemed. And even when she took her armour off at the end of those games, non of those images were in any way offensive, and they were too ugly or pixelated for it to be classed as sexy. Besides, you couldn't be fully clothed under that bulky suit, so it makes sense after clearing the mission to unwind.

I don't even care about the heels or suit, but I can't stand the anime look. It's predictably sexy and smug looking and just really cliche' and boring. What made Samus unique to me is that under her armour she was close to realistic, unlike Nintendo's other famous characters who are all cartoony. The concept art of her for Metroid Prime is bloody amazing.



Couldn't find a bigger one :-(
 

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endtherapture said:
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the only stupid thing is the high heel shoes.
Which is exactly what people are arguing about. They look seriously out of place and ridiculous on a character like her.
It's hardly "highly sexualised" though. I was expecting Dragon's Crown levels of ridiculous. They're not even stilettos, more like just chunky heels which some girls find pretty comfortable and empowering.
Well this is Nintendo we're talking about here, so it's hardly going to go that far. Still, high heels on a character that doesn't need them (she's taller than most men naturally, for crying out loud) look ridiculous. It's not even like she needs empowering, as she's the most badass character in her universe (not counting Other M). And it does sexualise her, which she doesn't need and nobody asked for.
 

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Smeatza said:
When me and my friends used to play Tekken we used to remark on how badass it was that Nina could do all those crazy kicks in high heels.
We didn't find it sexy or trivialising, we found it impressive and cool.
High heels can fit a character design.
Take Ada Wong in RE4, for example. I personally like her design in the game a lot. It's absolutely ridiculous she'd be running around Spanish countryside in high heels and a cocktail dress, but that game is so ridiculous to begin with, the super-sexy badass spy who kicks (non)zombies in the face in heels fits in there.

With Samus, it makes less sense.
And the design of those boots is ugly and unpractical. They look pretty dangerous to her ankles.
 

Nazulu

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Liam Barden said:
Nazulu said:
I don't even care about the heels or suit, but I can't stand the anime look.
Perhaps I should remind you that this game is being made in Japan.
If it's made in Japan does that mean every thing has to be anime? They didn't do it for Super Metroid so I don't see your point.
 

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Maybe it's a difference of culture, but I really don't see how adding high heels = sexualisation. Is that how high heels work? To be honest, the Zero - Suit in and of itself always struck me as mild fanservice to begin with.

I don't really like the design, but it'd be nice if the high heels and bracelet have a function. I'm not really fond of adding needless accessories to a character's design for the sake of it.
 

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Look, I haven't read everyone's comments but hear me please:

It's okay to like the design but PLEASE don't lie to defend you liking it. We all like shitty stuff now and then, just be honest about it.

If you like it because, hey she's hot to you, go for it.

Me, I prefer Samus when she was a purple haired 6 foot 3 inch amazon weighing in at near 200lbs.



Look at her there, she's good looking but not this effete little super model that Nintendo made her into.

Compared to this:


Then this:


What other reason would they have to redesign her, in my eyes, so RADICALLY different from her original looks other than sex appeal? Shorter, much more "feminine" curves and a visibly larger bust and the heels are just icing on the cake. Mario hasn't changed much since his inception, Link either. Sonic, Kirby and several others have for the most part remained looking the same as their original designs when they first appeared for the most part. Hell even Zelda hasn't changed that much.

But if you were to compared Samus' original design out of the suit to the one now, and showed them to people not familiar with the series; they'd think they were completely different characters.

Once again, it's alright to like the new design, just don't lie in you defense in saying it hasn't become sexualized. Because it has. Not only that, but the giant neon yellow heels clash like hell with the rest of her if you ask me.