Zynga Money Machine Leaves EA Behind

Loonerinoes

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We'll see how long it lasts.

Whenever a company grows exponentially or as quickly as this, it tends to invite smugness and overconfidence. Oh sure, there's little to fear about popular reputation and such when the overwhelming majority of your fanbase can't spell your name and just want to keep clicking on facebook.

But there are other threats, legal and otherwise. All it'd take would be someone with enough of a reason to clamp down on them and chances are...the pressure would win out. But we'll see how long this goes on I guess.
 

Lord Honk

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Good, now have them make good games.
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Let me rephrase that: Have them cater to an audience they've neglected, if not repelled.
 

Blind Sight

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archvile93 said:
I'm sensing an inevitable horrible crash and burn. These fast growth companies can never grow their bases quick enough to support their overall growth. Shady business practices also always seem to come back and bite the offending company in the ass.
Pretty much this, whenever I hear about rapidly expanding companies with shady histories all I can think is 'Dot Com Bubble Burst anyone?'.

Zynga also has a lot of its focus on Facebook, which is on top of the social network pile right now, but remember when Napster and MySpace were king? Facebook probably has a shelf life of another five years, what with the emergence of stuff like Twitter and Skype simplifying social interaction online and make it easier to communicate.

Unless they expand their market well rapid growth isn't really going to work out for them, I await the bankruptcy/corruption charges that will follow.
 

Crimsane

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What the fuck is wrong with you people? And by 'you people', I mean Facebook gamers. Bleh, I have to spit every time I call them gamers. S'right, I view people who play Farmville's ilk as inferior. Why? Because the ones I've spoken to admit that they're not having fun and they know other games are better, yet they play anyway. Not only that, they continue to spend money on something they don't enjoy. I repeat, what the fuck is wrong with you people?
 

ShadowsofHope

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This. Is unacceptable.

But likely they will crash and burn soon. They are too greedy, and the base of their consumers isn't growing as fast as they are.

(Deep, foreboding voice): It is inevitable.
 

Zer_

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Noo! Make it stop!!!

T_T

This is what I sound like right now. :(

 

Delusibeta

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It's privately held. Comparing privately held companies to publicly held companies (like EA) in terms of value is a bit of a fallacy. You could easily argue that, say, Zenimax is worth $50 billion if you have any respect in the financial industry. And some people might believe you. How much is Valve worth? Easily $2 billion thanks to Steam and their string of hits.
 

Galaxy613

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Blind Sight said:
Pretty much this, whenever I hear about rapidly expanding companies with shady histories all I can think is 'Dot Com Bubble Burst anyone?'.
Exactly what I am thinking, if Zynga doesn't diversify, then I wouldn't be surprised if in a year or two it'll become a butt of all our jokes. But their success is undeniable, but I would be hesitant to follow blindly after their lead if I was a head of a company.
 
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Xan Krieger said:
Firstly let me change my pants.

*five minutes pass*

As much as I hate to admit this, I guess Zynga really does belong in March Madness. Even if they are a bunch of scammers we let Activision in and we know that's headed by Bobby Kotick.
Do you really want Zynga in March Madness again after what happened last year?

OT: Well we will just have to see how long it lasts after all as far as I know Zynga is a privately owned company so you can't really put an accurate price on it comparitive to EA since it is not on Stock Market.
 

thiosk

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I just wish casual, social games were awesome. Like, can't there be a warhammer 40k casual social game?
 

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Ben Gepfrey said:
I have been playing Mafia wars for two years and Zanga does this because their games are constantly changing. They get you hooked and keep you there. I play lots of games but there are none that I play daily except the Zanga facebook games.
"constantly changing" Really?

They release the same game over and over again with a different coat of paint.

You click on things in a farm, you click on things in a cafe, you click on things in a crime lord sim.

But hey, if you want to play the same game with 500 different dresses then that's your choice.

Also, Zanga? That can't even be a typo, "A" is nowhere near "Y"


Loonerinoes said:
the overwhelming majority of your fanbase can't spell your name and just want to keep clicking on facebook.
You called that one from a mile away.
 

Xan Krieger

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Glademaster said:
Xan Krieger said:
Firstly let me change my pants.

*five minutes pass*

As much as I hate to admit this, I guess Zynga really does belong in March Madness. Even if they are a bunch of scammers we let Activision in and we know that's headed by Bobby Kotick.
Do you really want Zynga in March Madness again after what happened last year?

OT: Well we will just have to see how long it lasts after all as far as I know Zynga is a privately owned company so you can't really put an accurate price on it comparitive to EA since it is not on Stock Market.
Well they are a legitimate game company, as legit as valve or bioware, we just need to remove the ability to vote without having been here for a few months and we need to remove the ability to vote from Facebook.

thiosk said:
I just wish casual, social games were awesome. Like, can't there be a warhammer 40k casual social game?
I would play that every day, especially if it didn't have those crappy eldar. I hate those things so very much.
 

CloggedDonkey

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Hmm, little early to be pumping out the ads again, but whatever....

OT: Well, at least they got badmouthed in the intro, so I'm not that pissed. I still don't like these scammers, but there is, sadly, nothing I can do besides not participate in their games.
 

insanelich

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Critical research failure, I'm afraid.

The value of a privately held company? This is nothing short of guessing.

Move along, nothing to see here.
 

Fenris_Wolf

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insanelich said:
Critical research failure, I'm afraid.

The value of a privately held company? This is nothing short of guessing.

Move along, nothing to see here.
It's based off of valuation of shares being sold on the secondary market. Most of the big, privately-held tech companies (Facebook, LinkedIn, Zynga, GroupOn, Twitter, etc) issue options to their employees. The employees can then sell those options to investors who want to buy shares before the company IPOs. Because these companies are required to provide certain financial data to prospective buyers, a fairly accurate estimate of the company's valuation can be determined.