Well, the specific criticisms would tend to be wildly different. One side claiming he must be senile, the other pointing to actions regarding Cuba, for examples.
Do we have enough video footage evidence yet to prove Biden is senile?
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Oh, he's senile too, don't get me wrong. However, I suspect senility is mostly something people will ignore if they like a candidate for other reasons. Frankly, I'd like someone senile with my politics more than a lucid opponent.
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Hell yeah, FINALLY a political reform worth pursuing!!!
...awwww. You got me so excited.
Oh, I wasn't suggesting Hillary for president, I just felt it was more funny reacting with someone who's completely irrelevant nowMore like
Not really sure that would fix anything.
Unless ... unless the contestants were to face each other in a last man standing death match. That still woundn't fix any real problems, but at least politics would entertain.
No no, it would make it so the really old people would NEVER try to run for the office because they'd die in the first five seconds of the match.
Maybe a...Death Race perhaps?
Or it could backfire spectacularly, as that one Terry Pratchett bit goes, IE "It's the old ones you got to look out for, as they spent a long time getting good at not dying."
Though, I do approve of this blood-sport idea; we're already living in an 80's dystopian-lite future anyway, may as well go full Running Man, you know?
Its just funny that Trump had about every flaw that was so unacceptable in Clinton, but only to a much worse degree.
I can quite assure you, the world is laughing a lot less at the USA's leader than it was throughout 2017-2020. Sleepy grandpa is a big step up from clueless, narcissistically unhinged grandpa. Thus like I said, it's a bit late to start complaining about how respectable the president should appear now for anyone who took a hard pass on the same 2017-2020. Doing so is really just a roundabout way of saying "I am a right winger".
So if I showed you a random person upset that the president isn't a good figurehead without telling you which president, you'd assume the person is a right-winger?
You say "right winger" much the way the left says "nazi". Being right or left shouldn't automatically be cause for someone to dismiss your opinions. Conservative and progressive people both have perfectly valid viewpoints on things 99% of the time. And frankly most people usually fall somewhere closer to the middle ground depending on the issue.
Here's where i disagree: I think Biden's an
excellent material for a figurehead.
Maybe this conga of failures indicts that stressing on your candidate's "public speaking" skills isn't the right way.
I think most president's have been trash, because our system of politics is nothing but power plays for personal gain and no longer about creating a system that provides, regulates, and protects the people and country.
Why not? I'd say it's perfectly valid to ignore an idiot's opinions until you hear somebody reasonable express them. Can you honestly say that if you didn't know my politics, you wouldn't agree with it?
Because you are just labeling a person an idiot directly based on them being "right wing" without actually considering the opinion.
Yes in a vacuum, you of course just wave away a dumb idea, however that's not what was said. It's blind devotion and immediately viewing the "right" as the adversary and nothing more. The "right" is the enemy and there is no consideration beyond that. Which is an absolutely fucked up way to view shit. And if you are outright going to dismiss any idea, or source of information, strictly on the basis of being from the "right", then you are just a butt nugget and have invalidated your own opinion in the exact same way.
Maybe we're judging the right on their policy platform and public behavior and coming to the conclusion they're not serious about governance.
Fine if that's the case, but that still requires analyzing their actual ideas. Just because someone is "right wing" doesn't mean they support 100% of the right's policies simply because they are on the right. You understand the difference right?
It doesn't matter how much someone hates politics, despairs of party politics, says "But both parties suck", once they've put hundreds of comments into discussions in a political forum any attentive reader should know roughly where they stand on the left-right axis.
There aren't many absolutes: some right wingers will prefer Biden to Trump, some left wingers Trump to Biden. But given the colossal level of global disrespect for Donald Trump, trying to argue Biden has a worse global image than Donald Trump did as president is so obviously factually wrong that by far the highest likelihood is right-wing bias.
I get it. For most right-wingers, Trump was their president. At that point, to admit that they supported a colossal shitshow of a president has a huge cognitive pain attached. What is the saying: "Who is the greater fool: the fool or the fool who follows him?" Who wants to admit something which creates the conclusion they were a fool?
And one could easily argue that the left is dealing with that exact same conundrum as we speak. Biden is shit, it's a different type of shit than Trump, but they both stink either way. Yet we have the left defending him because........I don't know actually. I guess they are defending him strictly on the basis that he isn't Trump? But that's a really fucking low bar to hold don't you think.
Right and left should come together as one and go, the government fucking sucks right now full stop.
Oh that is certainly true under normal circumstances. But we're not living in normal circumstances. In our current time the right keeps making pacts with destructive demagogues, with the American right in particular having made a pact with the most openly malicious demagogue they could get their hands on.
If people spend four years condoning or even endorsing Trump then we've got plenty of cause to dismiss their opinions. With Le Pen or Wilders I can at least sort of get it but this is Donald Trump. Anyone with a functioning ability to judge right and wrong should have seen through him long ago. The idea of both sides having a point vanished in America a long time ago.
As with the previous point this would be correct under normal circumstances but in these times the right itself has declared itself the enemy. If people make Trump their leader it means democracy or a functioning rule of laws are not factors they deem to be of any importance which means our paths simply must diverge.