Big "I don't tip because I think employers should pay it instead" energy. Putting the cart before the horse
Funny Events of the "Woke" world
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And when that happens, tens of thousands of working-class retirees will lose the pension payments they depend upon. Are they simply "acceptable causalities" for you?
I am not doing anything other than Gen Z stuff like not going to restaurants, and etc. However, I do get to laugh at stock companies that deserve it.
You know when someone gets something wrong. That doesn't make it a lie
If there is confusion, it's that we didn't know the best course of action. As I've said, I'm far more lenient on Trump up to April because he had to make decisions based on limited knowledge. We all had to. I think he (and a bunch of govenors) made some bad mistake. But they were understandable. We all didn't have enough info in those first few months.
This contrast to Trump pushing the vaccine which is a year later. I personally waited for multiple countries approving it. And it wouldn't have mattered if it was Biden pushing it or Trump.
And no. A lot of people were taking the horse paste. If you're out to protect Rogan's feelings, so be it. He sure needs the protection.
And just on the CNN thing. A lot of the Ivermectin was spread on Facebook groups and Whatsapp sincr December last year. There was like 6mths before anyone reported on it. That's where it spread. CNN etc didnt even know it was happening until Ivermectin had run out in some cities.
I know. The issue is the absolute certainty in the correctness each time with everyone else doubting it being slammed as absolutely wrong. By which I mean everyone saying the Coronavirus could spread person to person and China was lying (see scientists in Taiwan saying it). I mean everyone saying no masks do something and would be a good idea to use. I mean people pointing out scientists wouldn't rush the safety of a vaccine this important because if it was shown to be unsafe then it would sabotage future attempts to get people vaccinated even with a safe version and prolong the pandemic and make it far more serious. There's really been little hint of "We got it wrong here's the correct info". Worse is the seeming attempt to shut down people saying otherwise to whatever was the claim at the time being deemed accepted rather than at least look at it, and I know there's bad misinformation out there but when it's clearly unproven stuff still majorly being debated like the claim masks don't work then it was irresponsible to pick an absolute side and present that as the absolute undebatable truth.
And daring to voice the view about the vaccine safety would have got you labelled an Anti-vaxxer the moment Biden took office, that's part of the issue. The fact what people are expected to believe flips pretty damn quickly.
Were they? Were a lot of people rally taking the horse paste or are we just hearing the tales of maybe 100 people nation wide amplified to a huge degree?
If people were taking the horse paste already then how is Rogan to blame when they were already doing it?
If people weren't taking the horse paste then started taking it then a CNN headline calling it Horse Paste likely very much helped them figure out it was horse paste more than Joe Rogan saying the name of the drug among other drugs
The question I feel I must ask is, was that people taking it or was it people thinking they could make an easy profit by hoarding it then if it was proved to be effective being able to sell their stock off for a hefty profit.
Yes, exactly like that. The difference being that you're talking about random people and we're talking about the people running news networks.
You jumped from "it's just a joke" to "how is this mocking them?" exceptionally fast.
That all depends.
There's a certain logic of "can't make an omelette without breaking eggs", or perhaps as Bakunin put it, "The urge to destroy is also a creative one". The rationale is that something critically failing might cause a lot of short term damage but inspire radical responses for longer-term gain. That's happened in US history: the Great Depression ultimately begat FDR's New Deal.
You have to remember we live in a world where rat poison and heart medication share some of the same chemical components.
Also an upcoming possible cancer treatment and blowfish poison share some of the same chemical components.
I should go without saying consult a doctor and don't just take non medicinal stuff that says it has the same chemicals in it as the medicinal stuff. But I don't think it's entirely stupid either. I mean who'd have thought one of the greatest medical breakthroughs of the age would come from a fungal spore "Yes don't worry just take some doses of this mould juice and you'll be right as rain in no time"
The stupid part would be taking something before it's proven by medical science in any context other than being part of a test group for medical studies.
You think there aren't news networks running with that notion? Do I need to cite shit said by OAN, Newsmax, or any myriad of Christian networks or talking heads?
Do I need to remind you about Fox News, ya know the most watched in this country, tellinbg people to call CPS on people who have their kids wear masks outdoors?!
While true, my problem comes down to the ones advocating for these catastrophes rarely volunteering to be the ones suffering the effects. If you're going to cheer for accelerationism, you damn well better be fully honest with yourself and everyone else how many people are going to pay the price "for the greater good." It's like arguing for fixing climate change through a good old decimation or two on the worldwide population while (fucking gleefully, in Gergar's and many others' cases) lining up to be in the group who administers it rather than the group that will die...
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Also ad hominem attack, I don't need to be personally affected by it, or even negativity affected by it to have an opinion, and cheerlead it. Also, many of these baby-boomers pensioners voted for the same people doing these problems,
Reagan, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Trump were baby-boomer creations that ruined the world, the country, and the national economy leading to this crisis.
Yet these are the same people that want to do away with social security for the young. I don't shed a single tear for these baby boomers. Don't vote for asshole politicos.
Did I not say in the next sentence that it such little mocking it's insane compared to other types of jokes. Chapelle's 'joke' was way more mocking than calling a drug a horse dewormer. And I wouldn't call it that bad.
Also note, calling it a horse dewormer isn't necessarily directed at a person. Chappelle's was. Making his way worse again. Much of the offense is created by people wanting Ivermectin to be successful and it not hurts their being/soul
This is not meant to be a whatabouism to Chappelle. Im just doing a comparison to highlight how little mocking was going, comparatively speaking.
Edit: Forgot to add about the random people comment. CNN stretched the truth. 'Random people' told a flat out lie. Sure hold CNN to a higher standard. But the gulf between the level of lies is incredibly wide. Buy hey, maybe I'm just holding randos to a too high of a standard
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Great. I don't understand how that people pretended a dewormer would help with a virus. I understand it could potentially but the sole positive study on it was fabricated. And they, including Rogan, just keep citing the same study and pretend other evidence doesn't exist. But CNN is way worse.
Again, I wouldn't have got up in arms about this if Rogan didnt call people a liar when he is clearly seeding false information (quite possibly unintentionally.) All this talk just makes me join in with those that jumped down Rogan's throat during the video and only because he's got a clear double standard and pretends he doesn't.
Here's what I've said elsewhere (not on this forum) - Why would I listen to that particular episode? It's very evident its two individuals who are blaming others for the stinking shits and who also pretends their shit don't stink.
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Ok it's pretty simple the de-wormer acts by causing the body to release oxyclocodine which is an inhibitor to the cell binding sites the coronavirus use to ender the cell it also works on parasites because it blocks their cell receptors harming their nutrient uptake causing them to detach in order to escape the now hostile environment and stand a chance at surviving. This is also total bullshit I just pulled out of my ass but with a little bit of effort it wouldn't be hard to edit something like this and modify it to fool people who don't know that much better.
The study is wrong but if you don't know of the other studies then it's easy to fall for a supposed proper study published somewhere supposedly reputable. I don't expect everyone to have a massive research team at their disposable for this stuff.
But the lie is he took the horse version not the human version. That is a lie.
Why listen? To get context I'd guess.
Scientific papers are specialist literature produced by professionals for professionals. Expecting to pick one up without relevant training and be granted deep understanding of the universe around us is almost certainly a serious misjudgement.
It might not quite be right to say the "sole positive" study on ivermectin was fabricated. The sole, positive study of any apparent strength being fabricated might be a more accurate statement. There are lots of other positive studies, but too small or badly designed to be of much relevance.
The mess is magnified by low quality studies and meta-analyses. For instance, Bryant et al. (2021) painted a very rosy picture for ivermectin in a meta-analysis. As many critics have pointed out, their inclusion criteria for studies was so loose that the meta-analysis is virtually useless: "garbage in, garbage out". I can only presume that as experienced researchers, at some level, deep down, Bryant and colleagues must have known this. But they did it anyway, and it is not to their credit.
Here's one for woke world that I didn't know about until now
So either this is a joke that's got a bit out of hand or some-one might want to tell the people rushing to sign it what happened according to history.
So either this is a joke that's got a bit out of hand or some-one might want to tell the people rushing to sign it what happened according to history.
I'm pretty sure that's the paper had a bunch of co author citing irregularities in the data sets before it was published but they printed it anyway. Like, just faked data.
I thought it was Bryant, but it might have been another paper. Only because it doesn't make sense in a metanalysis
Heres what I've said
CNN lied about the horse paste comparison
Rogan lied about Ivermectin working
I don't understand why you aren't getting this
I listened to 10 to 15 minutes including the discussion about when Rogan should get vaccinated. The context just made each sides position worse