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Trunkage

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That's pretty silly.

Obviously what is to blame is the fact that they kept working despite both the voicing of firearm safety concerns on set and not having qualified union labor to handle firearm safety. If you're a real cankerous asshole you can blame IATSE for being on strike too, I guess.
I'm just going to remind everyone that Hillary was saying on Jan 7 that Trump was talking on the phone to the Kremlin during the events of the day before. Some people are real stupid with their criticism of Trump
 
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So just to be clear you're arguing the Covid-19 does protect a person from death and there are no other circumstances involved at all?
No I'm saying the study attempted to account for 'lifestyle/social class factors' you say noone at any point considered.
I'm not trying to interpret the results.
Why do you consider vaccination a 'woke' thing?
 
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No I'm saying the study attempted to account for 'lifestyle/social class factors' you say noone at any point considered.
I'm not trying to interpret the results.
Why do you consider vaccination a 'woke' thing?
Identity politics. If a 'woke' person uses a thing, clearly it's bad and is completely anathema to those care about such things
 

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No I'm saying the study attempted to account for 'lifestyle/social class factors' you say noone at any point considered.
I'm not trying to interpret the results.
Why do you consider vaccination a 'woke' thing?
1) It's CNN
2) It's pushing ideas about the vaccine being beneficial beyond what any kind of standard logic would dictate it being to try and make it seem more appealing to get

So yes lying about the vaccine is a woke thing because it's being done out of belief in a "greater good" idea of lying to get more people to get it without realising at all how this could backfire and also treating people like morons who shouldn't question such a study despite all logic saying there's something not right with it or an extreme statistical improbability going on. Hell here's a simple theory to explain it, people who aren't vaccinated are more likely to just grin and bear pain or injury and seek help less thus with something serious more likely to die or seek help too late to save them.
 

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1) It's CNN
2) It's pushing ideas about the vaccine being beneficial beyond what any kind of standard logic would dictate it being to try and make it seem more appealing to get

So yes lying about the vaccine is a woke thing because it's being done out of belief in a "greater good" idea of lying to get more people to get it without realising at all how this could backfire and also treating people like morons who shouldn't question such a study despite all logic saying there's something not right with it or an extreme statistical improbability going on. Hell here's a simple theory to explain it, people who aren't vaccinated are more likely to just grin and bear pain or injury and seek help less thus with something serious more likely to die or seek help too late to save them.
Which is a pointless remark when they chose people who would normally get a flu vaccine.
CNN didn't do the study, it's a real study they reported on, they're not lying, you are. Stop lying, it's shitty.
 

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Which is a pointless remark when they chose people who would normally get a flu vaccine.
CNN didn't do the study, it's a real study they reported on, they're not lying, you are. Stop lying, it's shitty.
Ah yes like how global warming is due to the lack of Pirates right?

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CNN reported quite uncritically on a study and didn't do even basic thinking here about how correlation doesn't mean causation. Nope apparently somehow the Covid-19 vaccine repels cars in the event of a car accident.
It's a vaccine not a dose of the blood and Powers of Domino from Deadpool.
Common sense should have kicked in somewhere and worse it further undermines CNN's credibility or worse further helps conspiracy theories say it's I dunno full of nanobots trying to take control of people. CNN chose to pick up this study likely ignoring many others because they figured it supported their political position without thinking it through at all.
 

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CNN chose to pick up this study likely ignoring many others because they figured it supported their political position without thinking it through at all.
What many other studies did they choose to ignore?
 

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1) It's CNN
2) It's pushing ideas about the vaccine being beneficial beyond what any kind of standard logic would dictate it being to try and make it seem more appealing to get

So yes lying about the vaccine is a woke thing because it's being done out of belief in a "greater good" idea of lying to get more people to get it without realising at all how this could backfire and also treating people like morons who shouldn't question such a study despite all logic saying there's something not right with it or an extreme statistical improbability going on. Hell here's a simple theory to explain it, people who aren't vaccinated are more likely to just grin and bear pain or injury and seek help less thus with something serious more likely to die or seek help too late to save them.
I appreciate the skepticism. Covid vaccine preotecting from death feels a bit like marijuana curing cancer or wine preventing heart disease level of story, but I also think this one is a fairly reasonable article. I would not put it past CNN to report this in the dumb way and claim "Vaccine reduces likeliehood of death from all factors", but this time, they didn't actually do that.
 

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I appreciate the skepticism. Covid vaccine preotecting from death feels a bit like marijuana curing cancer or wine preventing heart disease level of story, but I also think this one is a fairly reasonable article. I would not put it past CNN to report this in the dumb way and claim "Vaccine reduces likeliehood of death from all factors", but this time, they didn't actually do that.
At no point are they actually showing critical thinking towards the study though that's part of the issue. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if the full study itself says something about how they're still investigating reasons why there is such a difference but CNN not reporting on it.

It's the whole Science reporting meme joke thing.

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Dwarvenhobble

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What many other studies did they choose to ignore?
1) Covid-19 is a nice SEO friendly thing to report on.
2) The present push is for booster jabs which is why they're reporting on the immunity drop.
3) Woman's concerns are also a big thing to care for in the media. Hence that study
4) Mask mandates etc.

Who knows I'm sure there's some other weird bonkers studies out there.
 

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Hell I wouldn't be surprised if the full study itself says something about how they're still investigating reasons why there is such a difference but CNN not reporting on it.
I mean, that article says that:

"The lower mortality risk after COVID-19 vaccination suggests substantial healthy vaccinee effects (i.e., vaccinated persons tend to be healthier than unvaccinated persons), which will be explored in future analyses," they wrote.
 

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Even so I'd say it's pretty poor work from CNN in this case.
I personally think it's among their better work, and am pleasantly surprised they did not report it as "Vaccine makes you less likely to die from all causes" and then bury the correlational explanation.

Edit: There is no weight to the criticism of a person who never thinks anything is good. You have to recognize the mistakes that weren't made.
 
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Progressives, and democrats who have completely failed to mobilize a general strike will fail to get either one or both of the infrastructure deals. They have failed, and are complete clowns.

The democrats have gotten taken down by an angry hippie Karen, and a coal baron, and their general strike has failed to materialize. The labor shortage will stop as soon as Biden is forced to accept more migrants into the US. And Biden will lose the midterms, and possibly general to Trump.

Meanwhile, his approval ratings have floundered right now to Trump levels. Republicans are taking school board, after school board, and that's after controlling state legislatures.
 

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Progressives, and democrats who have completely failed to mobilize a general strike will fail to get either one or both of the infrastructure deals. They have failed, and are complete clowns.

The democrats have gotten taken down by an angry hippie Karen, and a coal baron, and their general strike has failed to materialize. The labor shortage will stop as soon as Biden is forced to accept more migrants into the US. And Biden will lose the midterms, and possibly general to Trump.

Meanwhile, his approval ratings have floundered right now to Trump levels. Republicans are taking school board, after school board, and that's after controlling state legislatures.
It's almost like people are seeing through the narrative and watching the same media that hammered Trump have to turn round and try to defend Biden doing the same or worse.


Even CNN is having to admit it lol
 

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Also in Woke world here's Vice defending China's social credit system


“It’s pretty funny, but it’s not very accurate,” says Kendra Schaefer, a partner at Beijing-based consultancy Trivium China, who has been tracking the development of the social credit system. “It reflects the very common misperceptions about the social credit system, that everybody in China has got a social credit score. And if your score goes down or it falls below a certain level, you are going to be blacklisted, and you are going to be dragged off to the gulag or something like that.”
Vice's source? A named person from a Chinese based company......... lol

"China's government isn't awful our source some-one who works for a Chinese company who by law have to have a specialised CCP compliance officer at the company".

While the Chinese government has indeed imposed various controls on civil liberties, the social credit system is not playing a prominent role in this area. The memes’ popularity reflects widespread discontent toward the Chinese government over its restrictions of people’s freedoms, and also a misplaced fear of humans’ dystopian future under high-tech governance.
Yes the place with high level surveillance where putting your feed on seats in trains can lose you social credit due to face recognition camera and people going there have to agree to have their phone contents downloaded by officials totally shouldn't see this as some high tech dystopia lol.


But in reality, not many people care about these scores, since participation is voluntary and having a low score in itself does not bring any major negative consequences, according to researchers.
Vice also apparently ignoring that the systems recently became mandatory.
 

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Progressives, and democrats who have completely failed to mobilize a general strike will fail to get either one or both of the infrastructure deals. They have failed, and are complete clowns.

The democrats have gotten taken down by an angry hippie Karen, and a coal baron, and their general strike has failed to materialize. The labor shortage will stop as soon as Biden is forced to accept more migrants into the US. And Biden will lose the midterms, and possibly general to Trump.

Meanwhile, his approval ratings have floundered right now to Trump levels. Republicans are taking school board, after school board, and that's after controlling state legislatures.
Unless Biden does something soon, he'll be a lamer duck than Trump