What do you think of Nintendo dropping out of the console business and making games for other platforms?
Would it be a good business move for them?
Would it be a good business move for them?
Nintendo software only.
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No. The same question that was posed when they had their struggle with the Wii U. It's never happening. They had enough money to last them another 54 years back in 2015, and now that number has doubled due to the Switch's success.
I remember a similar thread back on the classic forums.
Back during the Wii U days, sure, absolutely. That console crashed and burned.
But with the Switch? I really don't see a reason why they would want to. The Switch is the only unique platform out there at the moment, and it still has a lot of traction behind it. Whilst I would definitely love to see Nintendo games make their way over to other platforms, I cannot see financial reasons forcing Nintendo's hand.
Back during the Wii U days, sure, absolutely. That console crashed and burned.
But with the Switch? I really don't see a reason why they would want to. The Switch is the only unique platform out there at the moment, and it still has a lot of traction behind it. Whilst I would definitely love to see Nintendo games make their way over to other platforms, I cannot see financial reasons forcing Nintendo's hand.
I felt like I've seen this exact thread before, so I did some digging:
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Also, other identical threads I turned up from CastletonSnob and VG_Addict:
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Also the last post of VG_Addict was April 14, 2020 and the join date for CastletonSnob is April 24, 2020. I feel like is in addition to the above is sufficient evidence to conclude that both are the same individual. Now I'm not going to accuse you of being a bot, even though identical thread creation sets off some alarm bells I don't think you really are.
What I really want to know is: Why you keep asking us this question?
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Also from a Google search, all CastletonSnob or VG_Addict:
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Who exactly are you, and why do you ask the same questions everywhere? Why is it so important to you?
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Forums.
How many times have you been banned from or gotten an infraction in forums?
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How many forums have you been banned from?
How many forums have you been banned from, either temporarily or permanently?
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Also the last post of VG_Addict was April 14, 2020 and the join date for CastletonSnob is April 24, 2020. I feel like is in addition to the above is sufficient evidence to conclude that both are the same individual. Now I'm not going to accuse you of being a bot, even though identical thread creation sets off some alarm bells I don't think you really are.
What I really want to know is: Why you keep asking us this question?
Why should Nintendo go third party?
Could someone tell me why people want them to go software only? And could someone actually make a case, from a business perspective, why it would be better for them? No "Their games would be better on other hardware" or "I want to play their games, but not enough to buy their consoles". From an...
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Could Nintendo go third-party?
Could they? I mean, with how poorly the Wii U is selling, and how many third parties are abandoning it (including possibly Ubisoft), I don't see any point in Nintendo making another console. I think the next console will be a handheld/console hybrid.
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Nintendo software only.
If the NX fails, could Nintendo go software only?
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Also from a Google search, all CastletonSnob or VG_Addict:
Nintendo software only.
What do you think of Nintendo dropping out of the console business and making games for other platforms? Would it be a good business move for them?
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Who exactly are you, and why do you ask the same questions everywhere? Why is it so important to you?
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Be an outright terrible business move at this point: they've got the handheld and cheap console markets sewn up, *and* they're the only consoles in town with any kind of availability. The Switch is a fantastic platform for indies giving much more visibility than Steam and being more available than Gamepass
I tend to make the same topics more than once, and I post the same thread in multiple forums to see if I get different answers.I felt like I've seen this exact thread before, so I did some digging:
Nintendo software only.
If the NX fails, could Nintendo go software only?
Also, other identical threads I turned up from CastletonSnob and VG_Addict:
How is Nintendo successful?
How is Nintendo successful when they're consistently behind the times, from not using CDs to having bad online?How is Nintendo successful?
How is Nintendo so successful when they're consistently behind the times, whether it's media format (cartridges instead of CDs) or online?
Forums.
How many times have you been banned from or gotten an infraction in forums?How many forums have you been banned from?
How many forums have you been banned from, either temporarily or permanently?
Also the last post of VG_Addict was April 14, 2020 and the join date for CastletonSnob is April 24, 2020. I feel like is in addition to the above is sufficient evidence to conclude that both are the same individual. Now I'm not going to accuse you of being a bot, even though identical thread creation sets off some alarm bells I don't think you really are.
What I really want to know is: Why you keep asking us this question?
Why should Nintendo go third party?
Could someone tell me why people want them to go software only? And could someone actually make a case, from a business perspective, why it would be better for them? No "Their games would be better on other hardware" or "I want to play their games, but not enough to buy their consoles". From an...Could Nintendo go third-party?
Could they? I mean, with how poorly the Wii U is selling, and how many third parties are abandoning it (including possibly Ubisoft), I don't see any point in Nintendo making another console. I think the next console will be a handheld/console hybrid.Nintendo software only.
If the NX fails, could Nintendo go software only?
Also from a Google search, all CastletonSnob or VG_Addict:
Nintendo software only.
What do you think of Nintendo dropping out of the console business and making games for other platforms? Would it be a good business move for them?Nintendo software only? - Boxing Forum
Talk about the arcade forums, share tips, etc. This will also be the place for new game announcements.Nintendo software only.
The Wii U is flopping. Do you think Nintendo would make more money as a software only company?Nintendo software only? | Video Games Open
Nintendo's in a tough spot right now. If the NX fails, could they go software only? Do you think they would make more money?
Who exactly are you, and why do you ask the same questions everywhere? Why is it so important to you?
Also, I made a new account because the new Escapist forums didn't recognize my account from the old forums. I don't really like "VG_Addict" as a user name anymore anyway, and prefer "CastletonSnob".
Congratulations, you're gonna get mostly the same answers over and over again. Can you do everyone favor, and stop making threads like this involve Nintendo bowing out of the console market or going software only? You can ask or make the statement a billion times and it would change nothing. They are not going fucking any where. Deal with it. The only ones that want Nintendo to go away are people that hate them in the first place, or only want one company of their favorite console maker to exist on the market, and no one else.
Or at the very least, make a different type thread that is not the same boring shit that goes nowhere and wastes thread page space.
And he would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those meddling forumites!
Do you know what the definition of insanity is?
I'd love Nintendo to focus on software only, but it isn't going to happen.
The only reason I've owned a Wii, Wii U, and Switch (all of which I got secondhand) was to play Nintendo games on them. There's no reason to own these consoles for anything else. I'll give credit for the Switch from a design point, of being a console/handheld hybrid, but again, no reason to get a game on the Switch over another console or PC. Not unless you want to play games on the go.
The only reason I've owned a Wii, Wii U, and Switch (all of which I got secondhand) was to play Nintendo games on them. There's no reason to own these consoles for anything else. I'll give credit for the Switch from a design point, of being a console/handheld hybrid, but again, no reason to get a game on the Switch over another console or PC. Not unless you want to play games on the go.
I believe it's constantly repeating the same misattributed quotes and expecting it to still be profound. (or even make sense)
It's true that the major reason to own a Nintendo console is to play Nintendo games, but I believe the major reason that Nintendo maintains such a high level of quality in their first party games is to sell Nintendo consoles.
If Nintendo was only a publisher/developer you would see all the same focus on microtransactions and other scummy game degrading monetization that we hate in our Ubisofts and Activisions. But because they use the first party titles primarily as a way to attract people to their consoles and related merchandise, they can actually focus on making the games good in the first place without needing the money siphoning techniques to fund their bloated development costs.
I'm pretty sure I watched a pretty convincing video containing this argument at some point, might have been a Jimquisition from a long time ago, but I don't remember exactly.
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I'm sorry, but by this scenario, Nintendo is easily the worse party. On one hand, you have a company that blocks their games behind a piece of sub-standard hardware, costing you hundreds of dollars, and then sells their games for close to 100 dollars each. On the other, you have Activision and Ubisoft who release their games on a variety of platforms. Even if those games have microtransactions, Nintendo is charging you an up-front cost of hundreds of dollars, where microtransactions are purely optional.
Now if we're discussing which company makes the better games, I'd say Nintendo, but the price tag for them is astronomical in comparison, given the hardware cost.
Speak for yourself. I got the Wii, Wii U (traded it in for a Switch), and Switch for mainly the 3rd party games. If you see my library for the Wii and Switch, you won't find that many 1st party Nintendo games on either console. Especially on the Wii. Bayonetta 2 and with the actual gameplay footage of 3 was why I got the Switch. Then add in Astral Chain, Code of Princess EX (a port of 3DS game I still own), and No More Heroes III, I am so glad I got a Switch. There are many unique AA, indie, or ports of retro arcade games that gotten mileage and usage out of. The Switch I mostly use for medium sized or small games.
You have some points, but even with that in mind, I'd still take most 1st party Nintendo games over whatever shit Activision or Ubisoft shoves out. At least Nintendo game can and still have semblance of fun. I can't say the same for Activision, nor Ubisoft especially. You are right about Nintendo's pricing issue. Their games rarely go on sale as much as they did back in the past before the GC era. It takes 5-10 years for a Nintendo game to drop from $60 new to $40 or $20 new. I usually buy 1st party Nintendo Switch games used, because of a usual bigger discount and I can add coupons on top of that.
But Activision and Ubisoft games aren't even worth playing. Anyway, I found the video I was thinking about:
Of course it's Jim Sterling, so any salient points are padded with repetition and long winded diatribes against anyone that pops into his head.
Ubisoft and Activision release the same kind of games every year with little changes. You play one Ubisoft or activision game you pretty much play them all.
Which is completely subjective. It's subjectiveness that I'm inclined to agree with (in as much that I'm into more Nintendo IPs than Activision and Ubisoft combined, most likely, unless you put Blizzard under Activision rather than its own thing), but subjectiveness nonetheless. But to the topic and hand, Activision and Ubisoft haven't locked their games behind hardware costing hundreds of dollars that's sub-standard compared to its contemporaries. Nintendo has. And on the subject of microtransactions, aren't we forgetting the Amibos?
I don't bother with Jim Sterling, and his stance on microtransactions is bizzare.
I recall that he refused to give Overwatch 2016 Game of the Year on the basis that it had microtransactions (transactions that were, and are, cosmetic only, and don't require real money), but gave it to Doom 2016, which has paid map packs. So in Sterling's world, the former is somehow more egregious than the latter.
The point I'm trying to make is that as a maker of consoles, Nintendo has an incentive of making their first party games as good as possible as leverage to convince people to purchase their consoles. They can afford to take a loss on the development of the game, as their main goal is to obtain a larger share of the console market.
If Nintendo only sold software, there would be no reason for them not to move toward the 'live service' model that other major publishers have adopted that treat their games less as something to deliver a fun and enjoyable experience to the consumer, but rather as something to deliver dlc, microtransactions, and other purchases. Yes you can say that microtransactions are optional, but you can be assured that a game that is designed around selling the player virtual products will never be as good or have the integrity of one that is designed without that object in mind, since you need to artificially create the reasons for the player to want to spend additional money in the first place.
In the video linked above, Jim Sterling approaches the topic from the perspective of Sony's console exclusives, which are in a similar position as Nintendo's first party games.
Ha!
While you have some points. For example, Sterling threw a fuss for DMC5's Red Orb and Blue Orb MicroTransX as DLC and pre-order bonus. Yet did not throw a fuss about DMC4:SE doing it years prior (only mentioning it after DMC5's announcement), and DmC's (2013) Weapon Skin DLC (all of which were made a separate pre-order bonuses from different store at the time). OverWatch may have cosmetics that didn't require money at the time, but that later changed when Blizz started charging or through loot boxes. So he did end up later having a point for OW or games that did it even worse.