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I know paneer is literally just boiling milk with something acidic like lemon or vinegar and then straining it. The left over liquid is almost pure whey from what I remember.
Ah yes, one of the few things I still remember from elementery school.
 

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Also if they have any kind of cheese production then they have whey protein as a biproduct. I mean... It's not processed and won't taste like chocolate but anyone who really wants to hit some protein goals could use it
Might not be chocolate, but you can make Processed Cheese Food product from it.
You know nacho cheese, American cheese, ricotta, cheese whiz, etc.

Basically, we can reasonably assume that Abby has a very high lactose tolerance
 

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Ah yes, one of the few things I still remember from elementery school.
On top of there's a number of straight forward principles Abby would need to follow.

1.)~2500 calories a day (likely fewer) to maintain Colleen Fotch's 77kg.
2.)~140g of protein to maintain muscle mass.
3.)Steady state cardio to burn fat.
4.)Resistance training with progressive overload to build muscle, although there are studies that show that a trained individual can maintain muscle with as little as one heavy training session a week. And we know abby has been lifting since her teens. So she should be fairly advanced if she is training in any way competently.

So the only difficult assumption to verify is that the WLF have some decent amount of agriculture. But we're not talking war time rationing here where agricultural areas have to provide enough food for populous cities with no agriculture of their own, we're talking a settlement whose main aims would likely be defense and food and have loose morals so I doubt their opposed to battery farming chickens.
 

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Might not be chocolate, but you can make Processed Cheese Food product from it.
You know nacho cheese, American cheese, ricotta, cheese whiz, etc.

Basically, we can reasonably assume that Abby has a very high lactose tolerance
Honestly most people's issue with a diet suitable for sports performance is how fucking boring it would be. Not how difficult the food is to obtain. There's no secret special diet. Lean meat, eggs, dairy and vegetables aren't exactly difficult. Like honestly if the assumption is that everyone in the game has been surviving on the equivalent of rations for 2.5 decades people should be more angry about the lack of scurvy and osteoporosis ravaging society.
 
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Thank god we got rid of Corbyn

Does it surprise anyone that Stamer is claiming this? He just doing third way shtick like anyone still believes that nonsense anymore
Oh my god, I actually read that twitter post as someoen pointing out why the Labour Party are just neoliberal corporate stooges... It's actually the libs trying to appeal to voters? For fuck sake.
 

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Since the UK contributed to it, along with everyone else, it is obviously worse.
Good! Next step: is the bidding war exacerbated or ameliorated by multiplying the number of bidders for the US by 50 (if we leave it to states) or by tens or thousands (if we leave it to individual hospitals)?

I do, I did already say leadership can muck things up, that doesn't change how a global shortage works.
"Muck things up"? But in your preferred scenario, there would be no DPA, no SNS.

The approach that demonstrably sourced more than enough ventilators came too late, I'm saying, because of a political choice. But you're advocating the US never take that approach at all.

We're staring at each other saying the same thing about the other.
Yeah, condescending comments will tend to degenerate the discussion. If you're happy to stop, so would I be.


I didn't though, I said it could happen, partly because it has happened. Remember, someone else started in with removing all hierarchy, I'm just here because your arguments against it are dumb.
Oh yes, massive decentralisation/ no national coordination has happened... and demonstrably made the problem a hundred times worse.

If you spend several pages defending a proposition, don't be surprised if people associate you with that position.

If the offending party egregiously fucks up. But in such a situation a private actor can also dissolve a contract, the government isn't special in that regard.
A private actor cannot easily do so, no. I've had numerous landlords, and one employer, breach contract numerous times, and I can do fuck all about it, because I don't have the legal or financial clout, and I relied on them at the time.

Those same landlords and employers' behaviour is regulated by law, of course, which the government has a unique ability to implement.
 

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No surprises there







At this point might as well introduce drugs into the equation. For research purposes, obviously.

Here's me, desperately hoping it was a lame joke.

Also, who think's she's an enigma?
Well, it sounds like she didn't do much communication with any of her constituents' enquires around her involvement in the infrastructure bill at all, which is where I'm guessing "enigma" is a polite selective softening of words the progressive protesters have been saying.
 
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You know this happens for men too right? Like Frank Dux, Rocky, Wolverine and Captain America can't keep that imagine for more than 2 weeks

What's your point?
Point being people aren't rushing out of the woodwork to go "It's unrealistic" not least because Rocky is a pro boxer, Wolverine is whatever he does part time cage fighter, woodman, sometimes hero, literally a genetic mutant and Captain America was pumped full of magic serum. You want super unrealistic go with Conan or something and even then it's not even pretending to be realistic because magic powers and bare chest fighting.

Well this is a new twist in your pathology.
oh dear how dare I point out the bullshit tactics often deployed here by some

Didn't ignore it. Pointed out likely calorie amounts and a macro breakdown. Pointed out that heavy resistance training with large amounts of cardio is literally what people like Greg Doucette recommend for staying in bodybuilder shape.

Pointed out that many Crossfit athletes have a very similar physique, because you keep wrongly comparing her to Dwayne Johnson, as some rare genetic freak (on gear).

"specialised diet" is likely just clean whole foods in the right amount. Probably not eating a lot of highly processed crap. Meal timing is over valued by social media, realistic protein breakdowns are much closer to the 1.6-2 g per kg of bodyweight than the absurd ~3g and the likes you hear from the chicken and brocoli crowd. Lift heavy weights to build muscle, remain active to keep bf% low.

I also gave you better sports science sources than Liana K.

2 weeks out of 8 at peak, doesn't address what her physique looks like the rest of the year round. She would have less definition sure, but it wouldn't be drastically different. There's a difference between idealised and totally unrealistic. Also lifestyle. One has training seasons and competive seasons and likely other commitments and the other always lives as a soldier in the apocalypse.

You talk about ignoring points but literally all of these comments are addressing the fact that you claimed that tlou happened much earlier in the apocalypse than tlou 2 and when that was pointed out as wrong you have completed ignored that point entirely.

Who's vaush? Is he a YouTuber? You know there are other sources of info than YouTube right?
So how is Abby getting the required calories again on standard rations?

How did she maintain her look while on the road for months?

Maybe stop bringing in and then poo-pooing leftist youtubers in response, as if that means anything to us - Nobody here even brought Vaush into the conversation. You pulled the same nonsense with Moviebob, like he was god-king of the leftists here or something.

Also to reiterate; you were wrong about the TLoU time frame. Deal with it.
Oh I'm sorry did I insult Lord Vaush your hero?

Also to reiterate. I'm still right about Abby, deal with it.
 

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Point being people aren't rushing out of the woodwork to go "It's unrealistic" not least because Rocky is a pro boxer, Wolverine is whatever he does part time cage fighter, woodman, sometimes hero, literally a genetic mutant and Captain America was pumped full of magic serum. You want super unrealistic go with Conan or something and even then it's not even pretending to be realistic because magic powers and bare chest fighting.


oh dear how dare I point out the bullshit tactics often deployed here by some



So how is Abby getting the required calories again on standard rations?

How did she maintain her look while on the road for months?


Oh I'm sorry did I insult Lord Vaush your hero?

Also to reiterate. I'm still right about Abby, deal with it.
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oh dear how dare I point out the bullshit tactics often deployed here by some
Fuck off with this bullshit, you still haven't addressed the fact that you claimed tlou wasn't that long into the apocalypse and tlou 2 happened much later. You've completely refused to even acknowledge that it's been pointed out that that was wrong.


So how is Abby getting the required calories again on standard rations?
Where's the evidence she is on standard rations. Again, the only meal we saw her eat at camp was a burrito. Not exactly a low cal meal choice. From what I remember her and her pal seemed to get preferential treatment at the canteen too.

How did she maintain her look while on the road for months?
Calories? Nuts and other high fat foods with long shelf lives. Once you hit your protein targets for the day and your goals are mass related getting your calories from fats is fine.

Training? Google minimum effective dose for resistance training. I'm too busy with college work (BSc. in strength and conditioning coaching) to write an essay for you.


Also to reiterate. I'm still right about Abby, deal with it.
You actually don't have a clue what you're talking about.
 

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Fuck off with this bullshit, you still haven't addressed the fact that you claimed tlou wasn't that long into the apocalypse and tlou 2 happened much later. You've completely refused to even acknowledge that it's been pointed out that that was wrong.
Because what's the fucking point?
It's a deflection at best.
I know how this goes.
It either gets used on a composition fallacy or becomes the thing you lot get mad over and keep demanding I do to distract from the fact you lot are wrong about Abby but can't actually let that narrative drop at all so are having to blindly defend what was a character put in just to satisfy Druckman's fetish.


Where's the evidence she is on standard rations. Again, the only meal we saw her eat at camp was a burrito. Not exactly a low cal meal choice. From what I remember her and her pal seemed to get preferential treatment at the canteen too.
It's a standard canteen system for the group it's not her able to cook or get what she wants as and when on demand.

Calories? Nuts and other high fat foods with long shelf lives. Once you hit your protein targets for the day and your goals are mass related getting your calories from fats is fine.
While literally on the road for months in game.........

Training? Google minimum effective dose for resistance training. I'm too busy with college work (BSc. in strength and conditioning coaching) to write an essay for you.
Ah yes the resistance training kit while on the road for months.....Guess she packed that kit in her pack along with all the supplies and all the other kit right?

You actually don't have a clue what you're talking about.
I refer you back to the videos it's getting ever more clear you didn't bother to watch.
 

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Because what's the fucking point?
It's a deflection at best.
I know how this goes.
It either gets used on a composition fallacy or becomes the thing you lot get mad over and keep demanding I do to distract from the fact you lot are wrong about Abby but can't actually let that narrative drop at all so are having to blindly defend what was a character put in just to satisfy Druckman's fetish.



It's a standard canteen system for the group it's not her able to cook or get what she wants as and when on demand.


While literally on the road for months in game.........


Ah yes the resistance training kit while on the road for months.....Guess she packed that kit in her pack along with all the supplies and all the other kit right?


I refer you back to the videos it's getting ever more clear you didn't bother to watch.
In order: why isn't it an issue that bill was overweight, now that your wrong argument doesn't stand. It is not a deflection. You're the one who decided to accept that fat Bill is realistic but muscular Abby is not.

Doesn't need to be. She wouldn't need some insane diet. She would just need to eat clean and get her protein and calories in. And again, we do not know how the WLF feeds their soldiers. Do they definitely give them extra? We don't know. Is it impossible that they do? Nope.

Yes. 100g of nuts and seeds would be over 700 calories.

You don't need a "resistance training kit". Maintaining mass with bodyweight exercises would be doable by training to failure. Doing pushups with a pack on would add resistance. A push up is roughly equivalent to benching 70% of your bodyweight. More if you elevate your feet. Add a pack you would easily be pushing bodyweight.Add weighted chin ups and you've got an effective upper body workout. Aslo resistance bands are lightweight and became a staple of home workouts during lockdown.

I don't need to watch it because i know the fucking science behind building and maintaining mass. It doesn't matter what some nobody dipshit with no expertise in the field on YouTube says.
 

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So how is Abby getting the required calories again on standard rations?

How did she maintain her look while on the road for months?
How do Marcus Phoenix and the gang get the required calories?

And isn't it a point that she doesn't maintain her looks? That some time in captivity decays pretty much all those muscles?
 
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In order: why isn't it an issue that bill was overweight, now that your wrong argument doesn't stand. It is not a deflection. You're the one who decided to accept that fat Bill is realistic but muscular Abby is not.
Maybe he's just a very good scavenger?


Doesn't need to be. She wouldn't need some insane diet. She would just need to eat clean and get her protein and calories in. And again, we do not know how the WLF feeds their soldiers. Do they definitely give them extra? We don't know. Is it impossible that they do? Nope.
Which the game didn't bother to actually go into

Yes. 100g of nuts and seeds would be over 700 calories.
Yeh those readily available apocalypse nuts

You don't need a "resistance training kit". Maintaining mass with bodyweight exercises would be doable by training to failure. Doing pushups with a pack on would add resistance. A push up is roughly equivalent to benching 70% of your bodyweight. More if you elevate your feet. Add a pack you would easily be pushing bodyweight.Add weighted chin ups and you've got an effective upper body workout. Aslo resistance bands are lightweight and became a staple of home workouts during lockdown.

I don't need to watch it because i know the fucking science behind building and maintaining mass. It doesn't matter what some nobody dipshit with no expertise in the field on YouTube says.
And the fact Abby maintained not only mass but definition?

Also thanks to pointing out you didn't watch the videos so don't even know what you're arguing against.