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Excuse me but who made us the world police? Do we really need to start world war 3 over Ukraine? Also the war in Vietnam was lost! Decades and millions of dollars spent and nothing to show for. A war involved in a country that never attacked us. I rather see not one human being get slaughtered because some idiotic politician thinks war is a good idea to solve our problems.
Wait a minute, what use is the American military complex if it can't go around and shoot people?

How will you get people to enlist, how will you make money off of the suffering from foreigners?

Although I'm no fan of WW3 happening, I think the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" phrase applies. The US might not care about Ukraine in particular, but if helping it out means dealing a blow to the US's enemy, Russia....
 

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Excuse me but who made us the world police?
The USA took it on voluntarily, because it is a pillar of power. The USA makes a ton of money from trade, trade requires other countries, and thus controlling and influencing the activities of other countries. It is effectively what all empires do: the British, French, Spanish, Ottomans, Romans, etc. To defend widespread interests and control events outside their borders, they go on military expeditions. Some don't turn out well.

The implication of not being world police is that US global power and influence will decline. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing per se, except when we start to consider which other major powers will fill the vacuum.
 

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Today also came out that the Dutch anti 5G crowd is wearing radioactive bracelets to protect themselves against 5G.
Still can't beat the time alex Jones got busted for selling "intelligence enhancers" that contained lead.
 

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The USA took it on voluntarily, because it is a pillar of power. The USA makes a ton of money from trade, trade requires other countries, and thus controlling and influencing the activities of other countries. It is effectively what all empires do: the British, French, Spanish, Ottomans, Romans, etc. To defend widespread interests and control events outside their borders, they go on military expeditions. Some don't turn out well.

The implication of not being world police is that US global power and influence will decline. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing per se, except when we start to consider which other major powers will fill the vacuum.
You mean china taking over? I don’t see that as an excuse to just go telling other nations what to do. We played as the world police since ww2 and what has that gotten us? Thousands if not a million people dead from the wars we took part in? Countries hating us for interfering in their affairs. Drone bombing innocent civilians in foreign countries has become a recruitment tool for various terrorist organizations. You really think the world is in better shape because America is in charge?

The United States taking on such a role is not a good thing. I remember reading back that the world considers the United States to be a huge threat to world peace.
https://fullfact.org/news/america-world-peace/ Also the u.s. doesn’t really stand for human rights when it continues to support regimes with terrible human rights records like Saudi Arabia who is bombing Yemen with our own weapons.
 

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You mean china taking over? I don’t see that as an excuse to just go telling other nations what to do. We played as the world police since ww2 and what has that gotten us? Thousands if not a million people dead from the wars we took part in? Countries hating us for interfering in their affairs. Drone bombing innocent civilians in foreign countries has become a recruitment tool for various terrorist organizations. You really think the world is in better shape because America is in charge?
I'd be willing to bet that the world is better off now than it would have been had the USSR been the dominating power since WW2.

Bit it's all hypotheticals, so 🤷‍♂️
 
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Twitter's main character of the day is trying to bring back anti Irish and Italian racism.
I hope no one's surprised. Racism is always an ever-closing circle- when you get rid of "those people" and all the problems don't magically go away like you promised they would, you have to redefine "those people".
 

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Twitter's main character of the day is trying to bring back anti Irish and Italian racism. Pretty amazing really. David Nunes intern, writer for the Federalist. Somehow failed to note that huge numbers of Irish immigrated before Ellis Island was a thing.

You know, I swear these are the kind of people who would play Bioshock Infinite and think "I don't see what's wrong with Columbia. It seems like a perfectly fine place to live in".
 
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I am starting to get what I think is Biden's strategy, and why he is not acting very strongly on Russia and Iran, but on China.

1. Biden wants for there to be dead Ukrainians so that Europeans increase their defense spending out of fear, and increase readiness.

2. Biden is horse-trading, hey Europe we will defend you from Russia, and to the Saudis & Israelis from the Iranians, in exchange, Saudi Arabia raises production of oil to decrease the price of Brent crude in incase of war, and Europe helps with China.

3. He really wants to deescalate, and appease Russia in exchange he removes them from the China-Russia alliance, he loses Europe and Ukraine as a result.

4. A mixture of 1, and 2

More clues to Biden's strategic thinking...

In the 1970s, Mr. Biden opposed giving aid to the South Vietnamese government in its war against the North. Congress's cut-off of funds contributed to the fall of an American ally, helped communism advance, and led to mass death throughout the region. Mr. Biden also advocated defense cuts so massive that both Edmund Muskie and Walter Mondale, both leading liberal Democrats at the time, opposed them.


In the early 1980s, the U.S. was engaged in a debate over funding the Contras, a group of Nicaraguan freedom fighters attempting to overthrow the Communist regime of Daniel Ortega. Mr. Biden was a leading opponent of President Ronald Reagan's efforts to fund the Contras. He also opposed Reagan's efforts to send military assistance to the pro-American government in El Salvador, which at the time was battling the FMLN, a Soviet-supported Marxist group.

The most telling part of Biden...

Throughout his career, Mr. Biden has consistently opposed modernization of our strategic nuclear forces. He was a fierce opponent of Reagan's Strategic Defense Initiative. Mr. Biden voted against funding SDI, saying, "The president's continued adherence to [SDI] constitutes one of the most reckless and irresponsible acts in the history of modern statecraft." Mr. Biden has remained a consistent critic of missile defense and even opposed the U.S. dropping out of the Antiballistic Missile Treaty after the collapse of the Soviet Union (which was the co-signatory to the ABM Treaty) and the end of the Cold War

So he believes in nuclear deterrence, he's likely a defensive realist like Obama.
I Am not against Biden's doveness, I am just stating he's not as pro-war as many here, including me, think. Also, the WSJ opinion isn't my opinion.

Excuse me but who made us the world police? Do we really need to start world war 3 over Ukraine? Also the war in Vietnam was lost! Decades and millions of dollars spent and nothing to show for. A war involved in a country that never attacked us. I rather see not one human being get slaughtered because some idiotic politician thinks war is a good idea to solve our problems.
So you want the world to go back to pre-World War 2 where countries just annex other countries willy nilly.


I am not opposed to any of what Biden did, besides the SDI part due to the fact I think the US could win an ABM race with China, and Russia in the long term. I also used the WSJ article because the liberal articles were trash, and this article shows Biden does not like wars generally. The WSJ opinion isn't my opinion.
 

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I Am not against Biden's doveness, I am just stating he's not as pro-war as many here, including me, think. Also, the WSJ opinion isn't my opinion.



So you want the world to go back to pre-World War 2 where countries just annex other countries willy nilly.


I am not opposed to any of what Biden did, besides the SDI part due to the fact I think the US could win an ABM race with China, and Russia in the long term. I also used the WSJ article because the liberal articles were trash, and this article shows Biden does not like wars generally. The WSJ opinion isn't my opinion.
Aaaand you think the world is gonna go back to that on a whim? After years and years of decolonizing their former colonies? Also it’s not like we respect other countries sovereignty when it comes to our interests. Go look out Syria for example, oh and Israel not that long ago annexed a some of their land, and their our ally!
 

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You mean china taking over? I don’t see that as an excuse to just go telling other nations what to do. We played as the world police since ww2 and what has that gotten us? Thousands if not a million people dead from the wars we took part in? Countries hating us for interfering in their affairs. Drone bombing innocent civilians in foreign countries has become a recruitment tool for various terrorist organizations. You really think the world is in better shape because America is in charge?
Given alternatives to US domination (i.e. the USSR) I'm very content with the USA being dominant in the 1945-1990 period. Since then, not so bothered, but then I'm lucky enough to not live sufficiently close to China or Russia, because I'm pretty sure the countries that are have a very different idea about who to be most afraid of.
 
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Excuse me but who made us the world police? Do we really need to start world war 3 over Ukraine? Also the war in Vietnam was lost! Decades and millions of dollars spent and nothing to show for. A war involved in a country that never attacked us. I rather see not one human being get slaughtered because some idiotic politician thinks war is a good idea to solve our problems.
I'd point out that while they lost in Vietnam, they won in Argentina, Bolivia, Indonesia, Guatemala, Congo, Panama and El Salvador

If you think of Vietnam and Korea being a waste... you haven't realised how much of a benefitting winning is and how many times the US did win (and quickly)
 

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Why not? Are you a Communist? Why do you support CRT all of a sudden?

Oh, and also, Trump supporters, this is why we make fun of you...
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The idea that someone thinks Trump is a Capitalist gives me more chills than someone pretending Biden is a Communist

That's what you think Capitalism is? No wonder younger generations don't want anything to do with it
 
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I'd point out that while they lost in Vietnam, they won in Argentina, Bolivia, Indonesia, Guatemala, Congo, Panama and El Salvador

If you think of Vietnam and Korea being a waste... you haven't realised how much of a benefitting winning is and how many times the US did win (and quickly)
And I’d like to point out Afghanistan Laos and Cuba if we are to keep score of the countless wars America has found itself in and lost.
 
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And I’d like to point out Afghanistan Laos and Cuba if we are to keep score of the countless wars America has found itself in and lost.
Well, I personally would put Iraq in there too. I think there are going to be more long term changes but once the US leaves, it will revert too.

I think what's classed as a loss has changed too. It's not like Pinochet lasted forever. The country doesn't really follow Milton Friedman anymore. But it's not classed as a loss. But it's not reallly a win 50 years later