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I dunno what's funnier; Joe Biden not knowing about the right's internet chants, or Joe Biden not caring about the right's internet chants. Like, "how to deal with internet trolls 101", but applied to a major political party

The only thing the right cares about is protecting the interests of the wealthy, screwing over middle and working class people with terrible economic and social policies, and “trigger the libs.”
 
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I can also see that for the most part they're useless, highly ineffective and often a lot of their bullshit is to deflect from other issues to begin with one way or another. What's the phrase, "Better the Devil you know". In this case better and easier to fight the bullshit coming from Trump and the Robber Barons than those who truly believe their actions are for everyone else's own good (while they ironically act just like the Robber Barons too)
Except, ya know, YOU HAVE TO FIGHT IT, not constantly excusing it with "Well, the left does ______ "

Fuck that "Devil you know" shit. If you have devils, YOU PURGE THEM. You don't make excuses for them and vote for them anyway!
 

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"We've successfully set up a global conspiracy that involved swearing thousands, perhaps even millions, to complicit silence"
"Well done everyone. So what shall we do now?"
"Now we spread elementary school level symbolic puzzles and breadcrumb trails that expose our big lie everwhere."
 

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"We've successfully set up a global conspiracy that involved swearing thousands, perhaps even millions, to complicit silence"
"Well done everyone. So what shall we do now?"
"Now we spread elementary school level symbolic puzzles and breadcrumb trails that expose our big lie everwhere."
The actual explanation for this, that these people actually believe, is that as these are nefarious practitioners of occult, dark and black magicks, they must - according to the legally binding precepts of Occult Law, cast their spells and diabolical demon-summonings using 'clearly' stated intents, so that technically we've consented to it - kind of like the terms and conditions you agree to with any software or website which no sane normal person is actually expected to read before accepting.
 
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This shit is legitimately scary:
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"The only legal votes are votes for me"
So, they're arguing that persuading people with legitimate voting rights to vote, and ensuring those votes are collected and counted, is "stealing" an election? Oh my.
 
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So, they're arguing that persuading people with legitimate voting rights to vote, and ensuring those votes are collected and counted, is "stealing" an election? Oh my.
In Pennsylvania, Democrats opened de facto early voting locations in the bluest region in the state, to make it easier for Democrats to vote. Regular polling places needed to be moved out of and away from retirement communities for covid reasons, and when Republicans tried to find a way to let them still vote on site, the Democratic administration for the state basically said "we have vote by mail, they can figure it out." They aren't persuading and enabling voters, just their voters.

Let me explain this in more practical terms: Republicans have basically 3 possible responses to Democrat's election tactics:
a) Be like Rand Paul and try to get equal treatment for voters through government action.
b) Copy the tactics and create a network of proxy groups dedicated to enabling only the voters likely to vote Republican.
c) Throw their hands up and concede a bunch of elections.

"C" is not going to happen, so would you prefer fairness through legislation, or fairness by two competing blatantly discriminatory groups of paid partisan actors forcing voting down people's throats?

Edit: Like seriously, people? What would you say if Republicans across the country were bankrolling "nonprofit groups" dedicated to enable only specifically voters that are some combination of white, male, and rural? You'd pitch a fit.
 
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In Pennsylvania, Democrats opened de facto early voting locations in the bluest region in the state, to make it easier for Democrats to vote. Regular polling places needed to be moved out of and away from retirement communities for covid reasons, and when Republicans tried to find a way to let them still vote on site, the Democratic administration for the state basically said "we have vote by mail, they can figure it out." They aren't persuading and enabling voters, just their voters.

Let me explain this in more practical terms: Republicans have basically 3 possible responses to Democrat's election tactics:
a) Be like Rand Paul and try to get equal treatment for voters through government action.
b) Copy the tactics and create a network of proxy groups dedicated to enabling only the voters likely to vote Republican.
c) Throw their hands up and concede a bunch of elections.

"C" is not going to happen, so would you prefer fairness through legislation, or fairness by two competing blatantly discriminatory groups of paid partisan actors forcing voting down people's throats?

Edit: Like seriously, people? What would you say if Republicans across the country were bankrolling "nonprofit groups" dedicated to enable only specifically voters that are some combination of white, male, and rural? You'd pitch a fit.
Uh, no? I have zero problems with groups helping legal voters vote legally. If the GOP made it easier for, I dunno, rural folks to vote, in a way that didn't disenfranchise other people, I wouldn't give two shits. Voting's important.

So, B I guess. Better than A, which is enacting legislation making it harder for people to vote, based on partisan whining

EDIT: You get that my ideal situation is Everybody Votes and enacting legislation to stop that from happening is strictly antithetical to my worldview, right? Not to mention that the stupid fucker is claiming that legal voters voting legally is cheating. The fucking fuck are you defending here? The idea that it's unfair that a political party is getting people to vote for it legally?
 
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"We've successfully set up a global conspiracy that involved swearing thousands, perhaps even millions, to complicit silence"
"Well done everyone. So what shall we do now?"
"Now we spread elementary school level symbolic puzzles and breadcrumb trails that expose our big lie everwhere."
Oh, are we adding numerology in there too? Can I play?

4+5=9
9/2 is 5.5 which rounds up to 6.
2+2+2=6
5:01=5+0+1=6

666. Mark of the Beast.

Got it in 3, which when doubled also goes to 6. Which proves it.

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Uh, no? I have zero problems with groups helping legal voters vote legally. If the GOP made it easier for, I dunno, rural folks to vote, in a way that didn't disenfranchise other people, I wouldn't give two shits. Voting's important.

So, B I guess. Better than A, which is enacting legislation making it harder for people to vote, based on partisan whining

EDIT: You get that my ideal situation is Everybody Votes and enacting legislation to stop that from happening is strictly antithetical to my worldview, right? Not to mention that the stupid fucker is claiming that legal voters voting legally is cheating. The fucking fuck are you defending here? The idea that it's unfair that a political party is getting people to vote for it legally?
Everybody Votes would probably involve guns.

And you would give two shits. If the GOP won elections by spending a stupid amount of dark money manipulating which demographics have easiest access to voting, you would hate it.

Hey look guys, we were just enfranchising more voters. Yes, we are targeting all the rural white people exclusively, why do you ask?
 

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Everybody Votes would probably involve guns.

And you would give two shits. If the GOP won elections by spending a stupid amount of dark money manipulating which demographics have easiest access to voting, you would hate it.

Hey look guys, we were just enfranchising more voters. Yes, we are targeting all the rural white people exclusively, why do you ask?
Good for them. Rural voters need help voting.

See this is a thing that people like you tend to say "what if" about, when it actually happens all the time forever. My problem isn't getting more rural voters voting, it's using dark money to try and prevent poor and minority voter from voting. If all they did was enfranchise voters...good for them

Because the GOP *does* spend stupid amounts of dark money manipulating which demographics have easiest access to voting by making it harder for certain people to vote

It's the italicized part I have a problem with, and it's usually provable in court. (Until the conservative Supreme Court decided to stop caring about it)
 
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Several. Do you actually care?

No, that's efforts to make elections fair by law. If you've got an explanation for how regulating mail in voting is supposed to advantage the party that carries those too old to leave the house or too far from civilization to get to their polling place easily, fire away. People just repeating the same talking points doesn't make them true.
 

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No, that's efforts to make elections fair by law.
No it isn't. If that was the case it wouldn't conveniently make it harder to vote for democratic voters while just as conveniently not doing the same for Republican ones. No one buys the argument that the Republican simply have to make it harder for minorities to vote because this somehow makes the election more fair.
 

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Uh, no? I have zero problems with groups helping legal voters vote legally. If the GOP made it easier for, I dunno, rural folks to vote, in a way that didn't disenfranchise other people, I wouldn't give two shits. Voting's important.
I often get the impression that the right justifies their actions by insisting the left is secretly just as bad as they are and thus every attempt to sabotage the left isn't only justified, but would have been made against the right if they had the chance.

Your average demagogue often insist that ''the establishment'' is always lying and cheating which is partially just demonization but it might also be used to create a scenario where the demagogue feels he has permission to lie and cheat as much as he wants because ''the other side is doing it''

I think Tstorm's statement is trying to indicate something to that effect. That its secretly the left who's cheating in election and that Republican efforts to undermine democracy are thus justified and just there to level the playing field.