Ukraine

[CM156]

Hmmm...does that apply to ships as well? Is privateering a thing again?

It's still in the US Constitution.
Though we haven't done it in over a century, really.

 

[Dalisclock]

"Amateurs talk about strategy and tactics. Professionals talk about logistics and sustainability in warfare" (Gen. Robert Barrow)

It seems to be winter of 39-40 all over again. Russia again underestimated their opponent and thought it would be over in a day or two. And that the people in the country being invaded would welcome them with open arms.

It's kind of bizarre how the US just got out of 2 extended wars that lasted for 20 years and achieved very little good and a lot of awfulness. Putin was watching this go on for 20 years and apparently thought "Hold my Vodka!". Apparently nobody learns anything.

Can't confirm this, but here you go ancaps, if true.

I mean, I was gonna declare my captured BMP for tax reasons, but now.....

 

[thebobmaster]

There were 35 abstains, including India and China.

 

[BrawlMan]

I highly doubt Russia even cares, EA.

EA is removing Russian teams from its FIFA and NHL games

Both Russian national teams and professional clubs will be impacted.

www.theverge.com

Ukraine calls on gaming industry to suspend business with Russia

The Ukraine government said it could rally Russians to stop their country's aggression.

www.axios.com

 

[Trunkage]

Hmmm...does that apply to ships as well? Is privateering a thing again?

Every good story involves pirates

 

[Godzillarich(aka tf2godz)]

poor woman

 

[Trunkage]

Hey guys more bad news, This war is causing a food shortage in the Middle East. because there can't be one Global crisis that doesn't fuck the Middle East in the ass

So I was listening to a farmer who knowledge about grain markets

Egypt is in the process of terraforming some of the Sahara. Not only has wheat prices gone up over this conflict, but also fertilizer. The project is in jeopardy without those resources and thus they need more water to keep it going.

And if you know anything about that region currently... that's going to be real problematic and already conflict looms there without this extra strss

I haven't found a news story yet to confirm

 

[Satinavian]

There were 35 abstains, including India and China.

Wich means not even countries like Kasakhstan, Iran or Armenia voted for Russia.

 

[Gergar12]

The first thing I suggest you do is look up Indonesia, 1950s. US trained police murdered 1 million suspect Comminist. Tortured another million. None of it was Liberal. A lot of it real fascie.

This was deem so successful, it was copy and pasted across South America

I'd also suggest you look up Guatemala. Yep, it had been going on for a while beforehand, but 1954 was a real fascie move... in a agonizing torturous century of fascism. Backed by US government and corporations

Other reading suggestions: Fujimoro, Pinochet or perhaps how Zaire got started.

Capitalism is NOT built liberals. It's built on death squads. We, or those we trained, just murdered more people than Stalin could even imagine

Yeah, West!

Indonesia is not the west. Did you take your talking points from Moscow?

Until quite recently, South Korea was ruled by fascists.

The democratization of South Korea began in the late 80s, and is still very much ongoing.

When the Russians, and Chinese 'help' a country it becomes North Korea a place where people have to eat grass, I would rather not eat grass, and I would rather the Ukrainians not have to eat grass.

Also, Cuba has dirt roads. They should be called the dirt road country.

When the US helps a country seriously it becomes Chile and South Korea where people have enough to eat, and become 1 st world economies.

We should call the Russians, and Chinese governments the grass-eating creators.

 

[Hawki]

Every good story involves pirates

But what about ninjas?

It's kind of bizarre how the US just got out of 2 extended wars that lasted for 20 years and achieved very little good and a lot of awfulness. Putin was watching this go on for 20 years and apparently thought "Hold my Vodka!". Apparently nobody learns anything.

I think he noticed Afghanistan in how the US pulled back, and saw it as a sign of weakness, but based on what I've seen/read, I think Putin genuinely believed that the Ukrainians saw things as he did. As in, they'd welcome a return to the Russian motherland, would cheer to see their "Nazi" government overthrown, and would just lie down and accept it.

Not that Putin thought he could succeed over two decades of resistance, but that there'd never be any resistance to begin with.

 

[Gergar12]

How come we didn't nuke China when they intervene against the US in Korea with no nukes, I guess the US is just better than Russia. Or hear me out the Russians are bluffing.

 

[CM156]

How come we didn't nuke China when they intervene against the US in Korea with no nukes, I guess the US is just better than Russia. Or hear me out the Russians are bluffing.

The Korean War started June of 1950.
The USSR detonated their first atomic bomb the year prior.
So while China couldn't have nuked us in the early 50s, the USSR could have.

 

[Gergar12]

The Korean War started June of 1950.
The USSR detonated their first atomic bomb the year prior.
So while China couldn't have nuked us in the early 50s, the USSR could have.

And yet with both sides having nuclear weapons, no one got nuked when Chinese troops and Soviet Mig-15s were fighting F-86s Sabres, and UN troops.

Call their nuclear bluff.


Russia, Belarus, Eritrea, North Korea, and Syria are shithole countries. Basically, all pariahs, travel ban all of their officials, and elite and allow for refugees from their countries.

 

[CriticalGaming]

Yo are these people trying to invade without a full tank of gas?

 

[Godzillarich(aka tf2godz)]

Yo are these people trying to invade without a full tank of gas?

I've heard the reason was because Much of the soldiers didn't think they were going to invade. So they just sold the gas for food and money.

 

[CriticalGaming]

I've heard the reason was because Much of the soldiers didn't think they were going to invade. So they just sold the gas for food and money.

Nobody wanted to raise their hand and be like, "Sorry general but we aint got no gas." Instead let's just drive them shits until the tanks run dry? Well at least the invading army is shit so Ukraine has that going for them.

 

[Dalisclock]

I've heard the reason was because Much of the soldiers didn't think they were going to invade. So they just sold the gas for food and money.

This honestly doesn't shock me.

There's a story from the cold war of a Russian Tank Crew who "lost" their tank and it turns out they sold it for vodka and herring.

 

[Agema]

So while China couldn't have nuked us in the early 50s, the USSR could have.

Maybe, maybe not.

Back in those days, they dropped nukes out of planes. I'm not totally sure the USSR would have been able to get a plane with a nuke anywhere in the USA except Alaska... and there's just not anything there worth spending a nuke on.

 

[Agema]

It's kind of bizarre how the US just got out of 2 extended wars that lasted for 20 years and achieved very little good and a lot of awfulness. Putin was watching this go on for 20 years and apparently thought "Hold my Vodka!". Apparently nobody learns anything.

It's not even that: the Ukrainians will not forget this. It will burn in their hearts for generations, and they'll hold some level of grudge for centuries. Russia has effectively committed itself to repressing Ukraine for... pretty much forever.

That or they can turn it into a wasteland, which I think is not beyond Putin.

 

[Godzillarich(aka tf2godz)]

Ukrainian city of Mariupol 'near to humanitarian catastrophe' after bombardment

The deputy mayor of Mariupol says he believes hundreds of people have died in the Russian onslaught.

www.bbc.com

Well this is sad, we may see the Russians pick up steam