Love how we went from "you aren't forcing people to put themselves to cops" to "it's not bad to forcibly out people"
Besides, how fucking useful is it for a bearded dude to be described as female for 99.99% of interactions with that ID? Is that useful for buying alcohol? For when you get pulled over? For when the State is doing a manhunt? No, the fuck, of course not! It would just look fake! Useful if your transphobic bouncer wants an excuse to kick somebody's ass though.
Police harassment kills more people than would be saved on the off chance you're unconscious after a gender-relevant injury where the only way for the doc to know what's up is to rummage through your personal effects.
How much money you want to bet that Mugsy Bogues, celebrated NBA star, immortalized in the cult classic Space Jam, does not have a height advantage on any woman of the WNBA, despite being a cis man his entire life?
New rules for finding the *acceptable* level of naturally occurring testosterone for women to have to count as women. I mean, I personally believe that any amount of naturally occurring testosterone is acceptable for women to have, but people trying to protect women playing women's sport seem to disagree
Motive matters. The former, a common entirely made up argument, has and will never happen
Maybe. Yet. Haven't seen one though, least one we wouldn't fix deficiencies of with steroids and hormones
Why would police be using something that's not descriptive to identify someone? It would be like describing Michael Jackson as black because his ID says he's black or someone has long hair in their ID pic and now they have short hair. Bouncers already discriminate, you act like a bouncer needs an ID to figure out someone is trans.
How are police going to harass trans people because of sex on IDs? Police harassment is like pulling over more black people because they're black using, you know, their eyes to see. Unless you're going to say the police are going to remember some trans person and the car they drive after they see their ID and then purposefully harass them because they can do that without checking their ID as there's "clues" to figure it out without an ID.
Like I said, men continue growing more after puberty than women, thus Mugsy Bogues or Shaq would almost certainly be shorter if they were women. Height matters in quite a few sports.
Of course, anything naturally occurring shouldn't get anyone banned. Regardless of trans women, you would still have to screen for testosterone because men and women can take testosterone to gain advantages. I don't see why trans women would cause said testing, regardless if they did indeed started because of that, it should've always been screened for anyway.
I asked what does it matter if it's because someone wants to transition or do it purposefully for advantage because said advantage is the same regardless. Advantage does care about motive.
I listed a few already; taller, bigger heart, bigger lungs.
First, look up the phrase "semantic argument", then realize that the "why" is irrelevant: states are not banning trans girls from playing sports in the same way they did not ban gay men from getting married.
Yes. It is. You are *impaling* yourself on this point. Claiming that trans girls aren't getting banned from playing sports is like arguing gay men weren't banned from getting married.
Trans girls *are banned* from playing with girls.
Gay men *were banned* from marrying men.
If trans girls aren't banned from sport, then gay men weren't banned from marriage. That's the *semantic* argument you are making.
Your argument is completely disingenuous as sex doesn't matter in marriage but sex matters in sports. It's why sports are separated by sex and always will be. I don't get how it's a semantic argument at all.
The birth sex is outdated information. It is something that is no longer particularly useful for actually identifying the person.
The correct analogy would be including somebody's weight and height at birth on their ID. Since they've changed.
I've explained how sex is useful for doctors in emergency situations. And if you want gender to be on the ID instead, then what does that matter because you can identify as any gender you want any given day.
I haven't seen this argument since before the Obergefel decision came down and it's aged like milk.
I did have a typo in that "(if the government didn't recognize marriage, the whole debate would've been a thing in the 1st place) " as it should be 'wouldn't have been'. If the government didn't recognize marriage then gay marriage wouldn't have been an issue because there would be no advantages gay people were missing out on and they could just create their own religion (if traditional ones wouldn't allow for gay marriage) to be able to get married if they wanted to. It would be like having a tax break for people who were baptized and those that aren't baptized and don't believe in that religion are disadvantaged. The Obergefel decision is over the 14th amendment because everyone having equal opportunity, and that's why gay marriage not being recognized was creating inequality. If marriage was recognized the same as baptism (no recognition), there would be no inequality present.