And they're still using the excuse that somehow teaching kids to not be assholes to each other is somehow making white people feel guilty about slavery. It's as if their real problem is that we stigmatize assholism.
Why You Should Have Your Eye On Florida
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The first bit is about a study based on discrimination (I assume made up). The CONCEPT of racism existing is making white people feel guilty about slavery
I'm assuming that the very fact that people could investigate discrimination is what Florida means by CRT
Remember when Republicans were all like "facts don't care about your feelings"?
Boys weren't forced to do boy stuff. I recall one kid in 7th or 8th grade was obviously gay and he never got made fun of, I remember him actually asking me once if I want to play with some dolls and I just said "no" because it wasn't stuff I was in to. At recess, you could do anything you wanted that wasn't dangerous obviously. If "my time" was so bad for kids, why are they so much more depressed and bullied today? Guess what I didn't have growing up? Bullshit social media.
And you have some link to that saying that would count as "classroom instruction".
Why is any of this in math? The 1st photo is like straight out of some bad corporate diversity training that we all laugh our assess off at work about.
Again, why the fuck does a math class have stuff about social awareness? That's not math.
Your claim is still completely unsubstantiated.
Yet when I grew up, kids weren't nearly the assholes they are now and we had none of this stuff in school. Why don't you take a look at why most teachers are quitting? Spoilers: It's because of kid behavior.
It just has no place in math. That's for social studies. And the fact that I learned about Japanese interment camps in WWII in public school that apparently isn't taught now because a Last Week Tonight covered it like last year acting like it was some unknown American disgrace swept under the rug. Nope, it was taught in my public high school and nobody felt guilty because us, the students, didn't have anything to do with it obviously.
Lmao you are gonna have to realize, at some point, that your personal experience was not and is not universal
Are you serious? The first is definitely meant to be in math. Helping people is a major POINT of math. The second (statistical problem) I don't care one way or the other if its in or out. But.. that doesn't mean I want it ban. Banning it is just stupid. Do you understand that each math problem has a theme? Are we going to ban all word problem in math?
What is so offensive about having a math problem about people moving across a bridge?
What's so offensive about having a math problem looking at fake statistics that are about discrimination?
Better yet, tell me what's wrong with teaching children values?
Or, hopefully, you just realise that this has been a witch hunt? No... cant have that can we
I'm 32. Had a teacher in my school have a mental breakdown and retire early. You see his wife left him for a (younger) priest. One of the students wrote on the whiteboard
Mr. [name] 0
Father [name] 1
And then all 30 students sat and waited for that teacher to arrive so they could laugh at him.
My brother is 10 years older than me and has similar stories.
Teenagers have literally always been shit bags.
I'm 37. In my freshman year of high school, I wsa bullied so badly I contemplated suicide. No social media necessary.
38.
Gay was a pejorative like damn, lesbian meant any girl you didn't like, debate was raging about how if you let gay kids into the locker room they'd go on a raping spree, and one time I drug a dude out of the cafeteria because he sat across from a special needs kid and said the worst thing he could think of.
The hell kind of magical school did pheonix go to? Mine was chock full of bullshit to go along with the good stuff.
Gay was a pejorative like damn, lesbian meant any girl you didn't like, debate was raging about how if you let gay kids into the locker room they'd go on a raping spree, and one time I drug a dude out of the cafeteria because he sat across from a special needs kid and said the worst thing he could think of.
The hell kind of magical school did pheonix go to? Mine was chock full of bullshit to go along with the good stuff.
33, and I didn't even feel comfortable coming out to MYSELF until I was in college, never mind giving anyone else the idea I may not be 100% hetero. I was lucky in that my school didn't have a problem with nerds, and in fact I became somewhat more popular once I stopped trying to hide my nerdiness, but at the same time, my school had at least one expulsion because of "birthday bashings", where someone was hit once for every year of their birthday. The specific incident ended up with the teenager in the hospital because of broken ribs.
Oh, one time a kid in my year died in a car crash. Later that week another kid sat in a shopping trolley and tipped it over and shouted hey look I'm [name] and then he couldn't come to school for weeks because he would have been hospitalised by that kids friends.
39 here.
Being called 'gay' was the worst that could happen to a boy in school. As a matter of fact, one of my high school teachers was constantly made fun of for being gay, which nobody even knew if he actually was, he was just called that because kids didn't like him and, again, being gay was the worst sin for a man. And all the guy could do was try take it in stride and not let it bother him.
I'm still catching kids riding home from school today call eachother 'gay' or the F-slur as the standard insult.
Being called 'gay' was the worst that could happen to a boy in school. As a matter of fact, one of my high school teachers was constantly made fun of for being gay, which nobody even knew if he actually was, he was just called that because kids didn't like him and, again, being gay was the worst sin for a man. And all the guy could do was try take it in stride and not let it bother him.
I'm still catching kids riding home from school today call eachother 'gay' or the F-slur as the standard insult.
Helping people is a biased political statement when one's worldview is that other people should be willing to die for your convenience.
I dont know when Ayn Rand took over the US but when you realise that banning maths books helping people is just social and emotional teaching, you just gotta say, 'I predicted this.'
Of course DeSantis wants to force his personal emotional and social learning onto kids and pretend he's doing nothing. He personally said this from the start
Edit: Phoenixings, DeSantis is doing exactly what you are decrying. When are you going to step up and stop him?
Kids and young people are more depressed today. That's nothing to do with my personal experience.
Huh? Why is a math problem about racism? And how is determining racial bias about helping people? What problem had anything to do with helping people across a bridge? Why can't it be a discrimination problem about like anything else? Math class isn't about teaching values, it's about teaching math. I grew up on math problems about like apples and trains, nobody I know in my age range is racist and all without math demonstrating racist biases. A better way to teach values is through allegory so it applies to everything vs just one specific thing.
So.... you didn't even look at the question.
You could use the same table and put any theme on it. That's how maths questions work
This is not targeting anyone or saying any race is doing anything in particular to another. You know, like the N word is way worse if it's actually targeted at someone. It certainly doesn't claim that white people should be hated for being racist or even claim that they are racist. The most I can say is that it DOES imply that there can be racist attitudes in every culture. Which.... is the opposite of what you are worried about
Yes, I know the word racist is super scary. DeSantis made this rule because 'apparently' white people are being called racist. That is not what is happening here. It's just banning the word racist and has nothing to do with white people at all
I thought the 'anti-CRT' stuff was going to be something you misconstrue as 'white people are racist'. You know, similar to the school boards who brought the story writing book with questions to start. It's used by writers of all ages so some questions were inappropriate. But teachers never used those questions because it could get you fired. When the parents found these inappropriate question, they banned the whole book instead of just those questions. Because nuance isn't a thing here. I could have understood banning those questions but they had to ban everything.
These questions dont even reach this level. You can't even misconstrue this. It's just the word racist that offensive. It doesn't have to targeted at anyone. If that's your plan, go ahead. Stop pretending that anyone is teaching kids to hate white people. Because you've shown evidence of the opposite. Using the word racist does not mean 'we hate you, white people'
But then, we are talking about DeSantis here. In the same lecture, he states that a bill isn't about the gays and then says, in the same lecture, anyone who uses the word gay is grooming kids for sex. Here, he just think the word racist is about him and is taking it out on everyone else
Your personal experience is why you believe the problem is generically social media and not, say, living through multiple once in a lifetime disasters where nothing gets fixed, the knowledge a significant number of people believe that your first jobs in adulthood should leave you living in squalor, a culture running rampant in paranoia and fear, evil people in power being rewarded with immunity and vast riches, etc...
But no, it's probably just tumblr and tiktok. We ban the CRTs, put trans kids back into the closet, and let the Nazis run rampant, that'll solve it.
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And a more advanced knowledge of psychology and the like. But all of that too I imagine.
Yep. I'm older, but being called "gay" or "homo" was unambiguously a pejorative at school, and amongst the worse end.
No boys in my year were - as far as I was aware - gay. Statistically, given the number of them, I might have expected about three. So whilst it's very plausible with random distribution there were none, I think it's also very likely none of them would dare admit it. And potentially for years after, struggling through unenthusiastic relationships with women because they had been taught that homosexuality was shameful and would make them figures of ridicule. In a way I hope none of them were gay, because it must have been fucking awful for them.
I could be very touchy about being called gay until my late 20s. Not because I have anything against homosexuality, but because it reminded me so strongly of schoolyard bullying.