Pay 2 Win Acceptance
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For someone that doesn't care, you sure make very emotionally charged posts showing that you do indeed care very much.
I don't care for defeatism and people being "realistic". I don't care for P2W, because it's boring and disgusting. I care to help those that can't help themselves, or guide them to the best of my abilities.
I've said this before and I will say it again: Do. What. You. Can. Once again, if you want to quit, then fucking quit. I will hold nothing against those that do. Just remember, you always have a choice. If you none of you get that; too bad.
I've said this before and I will say it again: Do. What. You. Can. Once again, if you want to quit, then fucking quit. I will hold nothing against those that do. Just remember, you always have a choice. If you none of you get that; too bad.
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Yeah, even when I call them out they don't even bother to try to so much as suggest a solution that obviously won't work much less a workable solution, not to mention actually do anything, they just complain on an internet forum. It's almost like they know deep down that I'm actually correct, but just doesn't want to admit it.
This is to anyone who thinks there's something that can be done to stop these business practices:
The words "put up or shut up" are appropriate. If you genuinely think something can be done, then go DO it instead of sitting on an internet forum complaining about the people like me who are willing to face reality! Unless you can prove with your actions that stopping X can be done you don't have any right to complain about X or people who state nothing can be done about X.
And this is really what it's all about, isn't it? You need us to tell you just how right you are, to admit that you're just so much smarter than us. Elsewise, you'd just be like "whatever" and leave us to our convictions. I don't think you understand just how much we enjoy kicking sand in the face of this kind of mindset.
Big streamers are playing Immortal while spending loads of money on it with the idea that everyone will see the result and there is no further urge to do it themselves. Reactions are split. On the one hand yes, the P2W is put under a magnifier and you'd think afterwards it'll be easier to move on and let it be. On the other hand some people claim streaming just advertises it more and is roughly the equivalent of building casinos next to schools or whatever.
So your response is nothing more than to satisfy your sensitive and pathetic ego? You're sad.
Hypocrisy be your name. You have not done shit.Here's an easy solution to kill P2W games: don't play them, and play better games. That's what I've been doing for years. It ain't that hard.
No, you're just not willing to admit there is nothing to do, as evidenced by your utter unwillingness to provide a solution. It takes quite the ego to ignore what's right in front of your face.
There's no hypocrisy on my end, only on yours. I'm not the one here claiming that something can be done, you are, and you're not bothering to actually do anything. YOU are the one who actually has to do something here.
So your "solution" is to continue to do nothing whatsoever to actually do anything to kill P2W games. Can you at least act like you had any intention of doing something? That you cared to do anything?
No, I'd much rather NOT be right, but the facts back me up. I'm just calling you out on the fact that you don't particularly care what the facts are and definitely don't intend to take any action whatsoever to kill P2W. It's easy to scream out that a problem needs to be solved, it's hard to actually go and solve it. You can kick sand in the face of the facts all you want to, it doesn't change that they are the facts.
So a hypocrite that gives up. Good to know.
Once again, you haven't done shit, but complain and been given me defeatist statements.
No that's you talking. I've done plenty and what I always can. Read this:
You don't like it, not my problem. You can either keep whining or actually try and do something. Sterling and many others are doing their part, and have not given up. I do the same.
Now, I am going to end this, because this is turning in to a pointless back and forth that is a waste of everyone's time. If you have nothing else important to say, then do not bother responding back. I won't be listening.
Why you should always keep fighting the good fight.
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I'm confused because my messages said you responded to me but I look at the post and I don't see a response
I'm already fighting by not buying this at all.Why you should always keep fighting the good fight.
Diablo Immortal Launches Early Except for Countries With Anti-Loot Box Laws
Players in Belgium and the Netherlands won't be partaking in the latest Diablo game from Blizzard Entertainment.Two European countries won’t get Diablo Immortal because of loot box laws
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UPDATE 31/5/22: Activision Blizzard has now officially confirmed reports it has called off the release of Diablo Immort…
Because of my anti-mobile stance in general
The only games you would see me playing on my phone are Card games like Magic the Gathering Arena, Hearthstone, and Yu Gi Oh Dual Links
Sadly, my phone isn't good enough to run those games. They were made with Tablets in mind clearly.
The same, except my phone could probably run most of these games, but they're not worth wasting the memory on, nor the data.
I've made this exact point on several threads on this topic; you must have missed those.
They've pushed the pay-to-win and microtransactions hard enough and long enough that they've become the norm, and the generations in front of us older gamers don't know any better. Kids these days "understand" and accept that a game doesn't cost just $60; it's $60 plus additional dozens (if not HUNDREDS) to get the most out of a game. They don't understand that there was a time when shit like this would have been railed against enough that change was possible, and shit like cosmetic horse armor DLC was so ridiculous, it was a universal joke and remains a joke over 15 years later... in a time when cosmetic DLC sustains too many games to count.
It's all here to stay; all the best of us can hope for is that there continues to be at least some games with enough self-respect that they don't feel the need to resort to these slimy and greedy methods to merit their existence. Sadly, those are becoming more and more the exception.
Then start looking at start playing games that don't have any of that. There's plenty in this indie game and AA game market. Once again, do what you can. Spread the word and teach them.
I don't think there's any "teaching" people not to engage in the AAA market. It simply won't happen. It's a romantic idea to think that's possible, but in a reality where your CoDs, Halos and Maddens are main draws, telling a 19-year-old to download and play indie titles to sate their gaming desires to stick it to "The Man" who's been exploiting them all their gaming life is a big, unreasonable ask. The best any individual can do is simply not engage on principle in the hopes enough others do the same that they actually make a dent in the practices of the big companies that arguably sustain the gaming market... which is again unreasonable.
People want to play games. Big companies make big games. Big companies exercise shady practices. People fall for shady practices, and some don't recognize shady practices for what they are because they don't know any better.
Yes there is, you just have to do so in subtle ways. And then there are times where you will have to be blunt and explicit. People are allowed to make their choice, but they can't say they "didn't have a choice". Considering how well the indie is doing, I'm not that worried. I tell the people I best I can. I give them proof. Whether they choose to accept it or not is up to them. But I will give them a heads up and say, "Hey, at least I tried to warn you or your friends and family". I've met plenty that learned the easy way and plenty of that learned the hard way. Sooner or later they'll know they screwed up at some point. Don't even get me started on the people who think that they don't need a physical copy of something and claim digital is the only way to go, or that's all they need. And once again I usually respond with, what happens if the server shut down, the game gets removed from the store(s), you lose the internet or you forgot to pay the bill. Or you're in that area was bad internet access. Majority of them can't respond with anything other than a blank stare, stuttering, or never thought it could happen (to them).
'Tis a noble endeavor indeed, but as long as the big titles that draw people in continue to use greedy practices AND be the big titles that draw people in, we'll always be the select few booing in a crowd of millions cheering. Maybe it's a defeatist attitude, but seeing as the things we rail against continue to propagate unfettered and supported throughout the industry, efforts like ours will continue to be Pyrrhic victories.