Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade; states can ban abortion
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If ads are incapable of altering your behavior, why have you so significantly altered your behavior (and spent extra money) to avoid them as much as possible?
Yeah, but it's already been acknowledged that that's not a useful societal change for the millions of people who'd be effected, so...just let Phoenix be wrong about the irrelevant side topic that he's already admitted doesn't matter. Dude's so hopped up on propaganda he doesn't even think he's capable of being affected by propaganda
To be fair, that's not exactly worse than the people who know they are being affected by propaganda and just decide to embrace it as their identity.
Funny how no discussion about how Roe was government overreach...
Because ads waste time and time is more important than money. Why would anyone prefer to waste 20 mins of an hour (every fucking time) not watching what they actually want to watch?
Says the person that just takes Twitter commentary as legit and doesn't actually read actual laws and whatnot...
Probably because it wasn't.
Roe literally reduced the government's restrictive power.
Oh, there's been *plenty* of discussion about government overreach. You just have the same blind spot as every other conservative by not caring that it was *State* government wanting to force raped children to give birth
If it was overreach then surely it would be judicial overreach, not government overreach?
It was overreach.
Nope, it wasn't within the power of the federal government regardless if you're pro or anti abortion.
So you believe the government being able to ban something is overreach, and the government not being able to ban something isn't overreach? I'd be interested in the tortured logic.
Blindspot, like I said. No worries about oppressive state governments hurting children, we have the letter of the law to mollify out conscience
Hey, what's involuntary forced labor usually called?
Because it is dangerous. Our ability to stringently reduce that danger with the many safety measures a competently designed and operated plants however is only that: reduction. There is a danger should disaster occur or, God forbid, war breaks out and power infrastructure becomes a target as it has in the Ukraine.
I’m personally a big proponent of Australia having nuclear power since we own(ed) a shitload of Uranium, we’re a tectonically stable country and we have lots of arid and unused space to host disposal/waste storage facilities. I’ll be the first to agree the Simpsons has a lot to answer for about the portrayal of nuclear energy, and that people should be reminded that looking at Chernobyl as an example of how nuclear energy facilities are run is like watching Fawlty Towers and assuming that’s how a hotel is run.
But under no circumstances should anyone say nuclear energy is not dangerous. It most certainly is: just not in the ways most people think it is.
The federal government does not have the power to ban or not ban abortion, especially the way Roe was argued.
What blindspot? What I just said above.
I believe nuclear power has the least death per kilowatt hour produced. It's the safest source of energy and it's green.
So, actually on topic, Idaho is proceeding with a near total ban
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Only exceptions are for Rape (with a police report, lol), Incest (with a police report), and certain death.
Permanent injury is not an exception, and risk of death is such that Docs are going to have to wait until the last possible second, also known as the time the pregnant person is most likely to die
Non-Mormon GOP politicians are mad that it doesn't go far enough, and want to remove the rape and incest exceptions, as well as banning Plan B and IUDs
Oh, and it's also a Texas Bounty sort of deal, and they want to go after people who help others leave the state for an abortion
What’s next for Idaho’s abortion policies? Activists, new legislators want more restrictions • Idaho Capital Sun
Post-Roe, anti-abortion activists and some incoming members of the Idaho Legislature are focusing on what restrictions could come next.
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Idaho top court allows near-total abortion ban to take effect
Idaho's top court on Friday refused to stop a Republican-backed state law criminalizing nearly all abortions from taking effect after the U.S. Supreme Court overturned the 1973 decision Roe v. Wade that had recognized a constitutional right to the procedure.
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Only exceptions are for Rape (with a police report, lol), Incest (with a police report), and certain death.
Permanent injury is not an exception, and risk of death is such that Docs are going to have to wait until the last possible second, also known as the time the pregnant person is most likely to die
Non-Mormon GOP politicians are mad that it doesn't go far enough, and want to remove the rape and incest exceptions, as well as banning Plan B and IUDs
Oh, and it's also a Texas Bounty sort of deal, and they want to go after people who help others leave the state for an abortion
This is just restating your position.
How is it overreach to NOT ban something, but it's not overreach to actually ban it?
It's not something to be determined at the federal level. How is that a hard concept to understand? If right to privacy was a valid argument for abortion (or any medical procedure), then why is euthanasia legal or illegal on a state-by-state basis? Same exact concept.
It's not a hard concept to understand. But you haven't actually given a reason. This is just restating your position again.
So, in your conception:
* State government bans something, taking the choice out of the hands of the people: Not overreach.
* Federal government says the state governments must not ban it-- which puts the choice back in the hands of the people: overreach.
So it's government overreach to... let people decide for themselves? But it's not government overreach to rob them of that decision and have the government make it for them? This is such topsy-turvy logic.
Nah, it's easy to explain: Government overreach is when the government lets people not live how he lives, because living how he does is the natural and good state.
Government overreach, in Republican lingo, is the Federal government telling state governments what to do.
Beyond that, state governments should be allowed to do what they like: such as ban abortion, gay marriage, teach creationism in biology classes and allow slavery. Nothing should be beyond their reach. Oh, except banning guns.