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Read your own screenshot. Being worthy of honor or respect. One who abused their freedoms is not worthy of respect. Example: it was beneath his dignity to shout. The man was free to shout, but chose not to in order to preserve dignity. It's right there.
And that has fuck all to do with "the moral goodness of selflessness and sacrifice" that you claim is diametrically opposed to kids knowing sex should feel good (and if it doesn't something is going wrong), so...

How is doing something, *anything*m that does not hurt yourself or others "abusing your freedoms"? What's the abuse?
 

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Isn't that just more of an outcrop of the modern era in general? Cause it's not just teens and kids, adults in their 20s and maybe even 30s are also wayyy less sexually active than past generations, by like 30% or some huge amount like that.
They're also less married, by an even greater amount. There might be a causal relationship there.
 

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They're also less married, by an even greater amount. There might be a causal relationship there.
So to prevent sexual "immorality", we should continue to erode the traditional concept of marriage. Got it.

You sure do make weird arguments for a "conservative."
 
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They're also less married, by an even greater amount. There might be a causal relationship there.
Less sex = less unforseen pregnancies = less shotgun marriages. It adds up.
 
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Less sex = less unforseen pregnancies = less shotgun marriages. It adds up.
This sounds just serious and dumb enough at the same time so I assume it's a joke.

Anyway, I'm not convinced sex ed is a major contributor to the decrease in sexual activity between teenagers. People just stay inside more than they used to. Teens are unfortunately more stressed and depressed than before also. Then in young adults singlehood has increased. Iirc, statistically people have most sex when they're married.
 

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This sounds just serious and dumb enough at the same time so I assume it's a joke.

Anyway, I'm not convinced sex ed is a major contributor to the decrease in sexual activity between teenagers. People just stay inside more than they used to. Teens are unfortunately more stressed and depressed than before also. Then in young adults singlehood has increased. Iirc, statistically people have most sex when they're married.
That certainly is a factor. Also, more young adults are living with their parents which is less romantic.
 

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So to prevent sexual "immorality", we should continue to erode the traditional concept of marriage. Got it.

You sure do make weird arguments for a "conservative."
Your "argument" only stands under the pretense that all sex is immoral, which is not what people believe.
 

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I don't know if Kanye West's meltdown has been discussed on here, but wow it's amazing to see that instead of going "This man needs medical and professional help", his so called fans went "Yeah fuck the Jews we always hated them too". And even then I wonder how many of these fans actually liked his music or fashion collaborations and not just his political beliefs.
 

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I don't know if Kanye West's meltdown has been discussed on here, but wow it's amazing to see that instead of going "This man needs medical and professional help", his so called fans went "Yeah fuck the Jews we always hated them too". And even then I wonder how many of these fans actually liked his music or fashion collaborations and not just his political beliefs.
I'm honestly not sure how many actual fans he has left, as opposed to hangers-on who just enjoy having a very loud public mouth speaking their hatred for them. Do these assholes hanging banners off of bridges even know that he's a musician?
 
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I don't know if Kanye West's meltdown has been discussed on here, but wow it's amazing to see that instead of going "This man needs medical and professional help", his so called fans went "Yeah fuck the Jews we always hated them too". And even then I wonder how many of these fans actually liked his music or fashion collaborations and not just his political beliefs.
I'm honestly not sure how many actual fans he has left, as opposed to hangers-on who just enjoy having a very loud public mouth speaking their hatred for them. Do these assholes hanging banners off of bridges even know that he's a musician?
Most of Kanye's fans, aren't even actual music fans of him at this point. They're just parasitic leeches hanging on to another parasite's words. Ironic, that these rants are coming from a self-hating black man, and these racist white guys and gals are more than happy to follow him, because it's a convenient "truth" .
 
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Like when Trump tried starting his own social media platform, Kanye's "universe" is doomed to even more failure.
 
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Huh. Nazis throwing their support behind a black man. The world is healing!
No, they'll just use everyone, even those who aren't white, to further their goal of subduing everyone who isn't white. Why do you think Candace Owens reached the heights she has - white supremacists looooove hitching members of marginalized communities to their wagon. Cuz look, they got a black friend who also says George Floyd died of an overdose, so they can't be racist, right?
 
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Heartwarming update on modern conspiracy election etiquette 🤨







Military planes dropping bombs, battleships at the ready, scores of soldiers marching in the streets -- and across the screen flashes the words, "Your country needs you once again."
"Beat the cheat," the video urges viewers.
The footage is from a new recruitment video released by The America Project, an organization led by prominent election deniers Patrick Byrne, the former Overstock.com CEO, and retired general Michael Flynn, a former Trump national security adviser, who have joined forces in the final weeks leading up to the midterm elections to recruit ex-military and first responders to staff polling locations around the country.
PHOTO: Wartime footage is seen in a screen grab from a video produced by The America Project.

Wartime footage is seen in a screen grab from a video produced by The America Project.
The America Project
The operation, fueled by false election claims and using recruitment material featuring images of war, has been dubbed "One Last Mission" by Byrne and Flynn, who emerged as leading figures in the effort to overturn the 2020 election.
"The America Project has spun up the coup de grâce on the enemy," Byrne said in a separate video announcing the campaign, telling viewers he believes the "bad guys are going to come at us with another rig"-- despite there being no evidence that the 2020 election was rigged or stolen.

Poll workers, who set up voting equipment, sign-in and process voters, and report results, are typically apolitical positions for which applicants must affirm that they won't act for the benefit of any candidate or party.
"AMERICA NEEDS YOU NOW MORE THAN EVER," read an October post on the group's Instagram account. "You took an oath to preserve and protect the Constitution. And defending it means ensuring election integrity."
https://abcnews.go.com/US/inside-trump-backed-effort-control-elections-ahead-2022/story?id=85358496
"This is the most important thing I think going on in America right now," Byrne said in a recent interview promoting the effort on a conservative internet show. "We're asking you to save the country again."
He said in another interview that the recruiting campaign has been "going like gangbusters" after launching in September.
The "One Last Mission" campaign is the latest effort launched by The America Project, which has announced a slate of programs aimed at impacting future elections, many fueled by baseless claims that the 2020 election was stolen.

The group has also conducted poll worker "training" around the county, called "Operation Eagle's Wings," which is targeting key battleground states including Arizona, Georgia, Florida, Illinois, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Texas, Virginia, and Wisconsin.
The America Project has so far trained almost 6,000 poll workers in just Pennsylvania alone, according to Flynn's brother Michael Flynn, who is the group's president. The training is separate and additional to training from election officials.
"They won't be able to steal this election the same way they stole 2020!" he tweeted.


The recruitment of poll workers based on unproven claims of voter fraud has raised alarm bells with some election experts.
"Recruiting people based on lies is problematic, and to do that and then to add the militaristic 'we're at war' imagery, I think is inviting people to that process with the wrong perspective," Sean Morales-Doyle, acting director of voting rights at the nonprofit, nonpartisan Brennan Center for Justice, told ABC News. "Skepticism is one thing, but coming to that job believing that the election was stolen and on the lookout for nonexistent conspiracies and fraud is problematic."

Morales-Doyle said there is a long history of former servicemen and women serving as poll watchers, and that they often "come to that work precisely because they are people who are committed to public service and making sure the process works."
"However," he said, "the methods used by groups like The America Project -- conflating images of war with false election fraud claims -- can be a troubling combination ahead of Election Day."
And while Byrne says in some videos that the effort should be peaceful, Morales-Doyle warned that the images being used by the group project a different message.
PHOTO: In this Sept. 10, 2022, file photo, businessman Patrick Byrne attends the Florida Election Integrity Public Hearing event, in West Palm Beach, Fla.

In this Sept. 10, 2022, file photo, businessman Patrick Byrne attends the Florida Election Integrity Public Hearing event, in West Palm Beach, Fla.
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"The use of militaristic imagery and terminology in order to recruit people to be poll watchers is troubling, in part, because there's a history of problems with intimidation by poll watchers in this country," Morales-Doyle said. "There's specifically a history of efforts to use off-duty law enforcement and poll watchers to accomplish racially discriminatory intimidation, so it gives me concern when you see that kind of recruitment."
The America Project did not respond to a request for comment from ABC News.

The organization was founded as a 501(c)(4) not-for-profit organization in the wake of the 2020 election, according to documents reviewed by ABC News. Michael Flynn said in an online interview posted last week that Byrne had primarily funded the group by investing "a lot of his own personal treasure."
According to a filing with North Carolina charity regulators, the group listed its planned budget for 2021 as $50 million. When ABC News asked to see the group's Form 990, a filing that tax-exempt organizations make to the Internal Revenue Service, a representative for The America Project said they had filed an extension until after the election, in February 2023.
In addition to Byrne and Flynn, The America Project is staffed with several former Trump administration officials, according to documents. Emily Newman, who served as an adviser in the Trump administration, is listed as president of the group's board of directors, and another former Trump administration official, Tim Meisburger, was recently announced as the group's "election integrity director."
PHOTO: Miami-Dade residents cast their ballots during the first day of early voting in Miami-Dade County at the Miami-County Hall in downtown Miami, on Oct. 24, 2022.

Miami-Dade residents cast their ballots during the first day of early voting in Miami-Dade County at the Miami-County Hall in downtown Mia...Show more
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Meisburger, who served as deputy assistant administrator at the U.S. Agency for International Development's Bureau for Development, Democracy and Innovation, left the agency after reportedly making comments that downplayed the attack on the U.S. Capitol shortly after Jan. 6.
Michael Flynn, who served as then-President Donald Trump's national security adviser until 2017, was initially a prominent face of The America Project and was featured in one of the group's first videos promoting its formation. Up until a month ago, the retired general was the first one listed in the "About Us" section of the group's website -- but recently his name was removed. The America Project did not respond to questions about Michael Flynn's ongoing involvement with the group.
"We are crisscrossing the country doing all we can in these remaining days to mobilize believers to have courage and stand up to protect our country from this takeover," Michael Flynn told Charisma News, a Christian news outlet. "If it is not stopped with an overwhelming turnout and victory in both the House and the Senate, our nation will be forever lost. Now is the time for courage."


For election experts like Morales-Doyle, groups like The America Project present a dilemma: Is it better to raise alarm bells about their potential threats, or stay quiet so voters aren't scared off from going to the polls?
"Post Jan. 6, there's no way that I can tell you that we aren't at a higher risk of political violence and intimidation and people responding to [those] kinds of calls," Morales-Doyle said. "It's the same kind of stuff that prompted people to show up to the Capitol on Jan. 6. I think there's a real threat and a real concern."
However, he said. "I just think that whenever we talk about that threat and that concern, it's important to also keep in mind that most people aren't going to face that when they go to the polls -- and people shouldn't be scared to go vote."
 
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I say let the gun nuts police the voting booths if it will sate their curiosity. I don't get being intimidated by them. It's not like they would know how you voted and somehow act against you based on that. It's definitely better than them disputing the result afterwards. I think making a fuss over this brings them undue attention and if anything makes their hypothetical intimidation all the more widespread to the terminally skittish among us.

I'm honestly not sure how many actual fans he has left, as opposed to hangers-on who just enjoy having a very loud public mouth speaking their hatred for them. Do these assholes hanging banners off of bridges even know that he's a musician?
I was never a fan but I get the urge to remain a fan of someone who has seemingly lost the plot if you liked their art in the past. It is honestly hypocritical to deem someone the next best thing next to fried cheese one second and then discard them as soon as they say something you disagree with, as that would indicate you never were really in awe of them and just liked being agreed with by someone in the art realm.

I would expect a real fan to introspect in such an instance and maybe even reconsider their opinions if someone whom they held to such esteem was diverging in a big way. Also this plays well with people's need to feel special, to go against the grain and say unpopular things as a member of a secret group who "gets it".
 
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I don't get being intimidated by them.
You find nothing intimidating or even off-putting about a bunch of wannabe vigilantes armed and looking for trouble?

It's definitely better than them disputing the result afterwards.
Dude, they're going to do that for every race they lose regardless. If you think otherwise, you haven't been paying attention.
 

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I would expect a real fan to introspect in such an instance and maybe even reconsider their opinions if someone whom they held to such esteem was diverging in a big way.
You expect a "real fan" to... just parrot the opinions of someone they like, rather than holding independent thoughts?

What the fuck? Why would enjoyment of someone's art automatically translate into slavishly adopting their political opinions?
 

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You expect a "real fan" to... just parrot the opinions of someone they like, rather than holding independent thoughts?

What the fuck? Why would enjoyment of someone's art automatically translate into slavishly adopting their political opinions?
It's about the medium we're discussing, if someone's art is unrelated to their opinions and it's just like, cooking fancy cakes or something, then sure being a fan of someone has no relation to that area of views.


Kanye, as I understand it (again, not a fan), is a rapper who has had political opinions embedded into his art for a long time such that they are inextricable from it, and to be a fan of him is to have some modicum of endorsement for said views.


So yeah, in that very specific context, being a fan of this type of art entails buying into certain views, and furthermore, this person is someone who is arrogant enough to describe himself as a genius and what have you, and people still follow him, so yeah sure, if you are gonna be his fan despite all that and believe him to be a genius, it is not a stretch to become introspective when someone you hold to such high esteem is suddenly being contrary to what you'd expect to get out of him.



You find nothing intimidating or even off-putting about a bunch of wannabe vigilantes armed and looking for trouble?



Dude, they're going to do that for every race they lose regardless. If you think otherwise, you haven't been paying attention.

I assume the same particular individuals wouldn't do it cause it would imply a failure in their watching of the vote. And no, I'd feel safer with them there cause they're out in the open and not hiding in the bushes or planting bombs in pizza places or something. Their watch can keep them occupied and away from other sorts of mischief.


I think how you fundamentally view these people will affect how threatening they seem to you. To me they are misguided fools trying to do a good thing and protect the country, so I have nothing to fear. If you see em as the new KKK trying to end democracy and enslave women and so on, you may be more disinclined to feelings of safety.