Wouldn't it be just the saddest fucking thing if what makes the GOP turn away from Trump wasn't jan 6th, it was just that he made them lose (or not do as well) an election that they should have won.
Shit! we forgot an election thread for the midterms. Here it is now.
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Election months is a huge problem.
1) If you vote months before the election, you are a defacto uninformed voter. You haven't seen the full election yet. If you regret your vote, sure, that hurts you. But your uninformed vote can hurt everyone else.
2) It is anti-non well funded challenger. It is during that election that even someone without a huge war chest can be heard. You can hate on, for instance, Kari Lake, but on election day she was up 11 points. https://dailycaller.com/2022/10/27/lake-leads-dem-opponent-by-11-points/ Even if that election were not stolen in the week it took to count the votes, it is possible she still would have lost as by the time her message got out and she took that lead, people had already voted long before.
That is not democracy.
It's a flaw, that's not to say that it makes the whole thing not a democracy.
Though, assuming "months before" isn't hyperbole, I can't think of many good reasons for that. Unless you are crew on a nuclear submarine and will have no contact with the outside world for half a year at a time or something. Now, voting somewhat in advance of the day isn't, IMHO, a big issue.
It is hyperbole, Texas has a pretty generous early voting timeframe of 2 weeks before election day.
The answer is to take money out of politics so you don't have well funded people on blast for 6 months, not to limit voting to a single day.
That being said, eliminating dozens of voting companies and just having the state create a uniform voting procedure for entire states or the whole country would certainly help.
In terms of voting, I suspect - like other long haul mariners - voting early/in absentia/etc is part of a pre-deployment checklist they go through assuming it’s relevant at the time. US military personnel may indeed have special dispensations for voting earlier than standard limits for reasons of pragmatism.
@Dalisclock may know.
Military personnel, IIRC can get an extended period to get ballots back to be counted. Though most personnel get mail pretty often. I wasn't a submariner but I know as a carrier sailor we got mail every few days if not weekly. I imagine there's a priority on getting ballots to people deployed on time and back stateside in time to be counted absentee.
It's been a decade since I deployed so I don't remember very much honestly.
I live in Oregon where vote by mail is the norm and in fact the sole way to vote. You get mailed a ballot a couple weeks out. You get a voters book a month out. Nothing substantial is going to change a month between getting the ballot and election day and honestly it's really nice to vote on your couch and either drop it in the mail box/drop box and be done with it a couple weeks out. You can opt to get a "ballot sent/received" email and even get a message if there's a signature issue do you can fix it before election day.(which I've had to do once because my signature looked wonky apparently)
It's been working pretty good for decades now, to be honest. Washington is much the same. I believe California also let's people vote by mail with no excuse now as well.
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Does mail get delivered via plane or ship when naval personnel are at sea?
I would assume that carriers would receive a plane of some kind but not all vessels can accommodate aircraft and I don’t know if the US Navy operates any flying boats/sea planes.
Carriers get resupplied by dedicated supply ship like once a week on the regular, which involves a combination of helicopters moving pallets and/or cranes with zip lines(also with pallets) moving cargo that way. But cargo planes with mail also do regular runs under normal circumstances. I imagine smaller ships also either get a helicopter bringing mail or wait till the supply ship makes the regularly scheduled supply transfer.
Here's a video that shows a USN UNREP(Underway Replenishment).
According to a very brief web search, apparently Submarines do not get mail at sea and have to wait until they make port, where the mail for that sub will be routed and waiting. I have no idea how that affects ballots, especially with Ballistic missile subs which routinely spend 3 months underwater at a time doing "Deterrence Patrols" AKA waiting until the "Incoming nukes. Fire all missiles at predetermined targets" signal comes in via encrypted radio but otherwise making long slow circles in the ocean and hoping that signal never comes in.
Maybe they get a very extended period for the ballots to count but unless a vote is very, very close it's unlikely the crew of the deployed submarines are going to make much difference in determining an election(150 people per submarine, who will likely be from all over the country per random distribution thus maybe 3 votes per state per submarine or something and I made up that math in my head just now). Even if the entire crew of 150 were from the same district(which would be wierd in itself) a vast majority of elections are not determined by such close margins.
So to answer your question, I guess submarine crews just get counted really late but still get counted.
Anyway, thank you for attending my TED talk on how the US Navy gets mail.
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I agree vote by mail is convenient. But I don't think that negates my concerns. Example: the Hunter Laptop story came out only 3 weeks before the election. Had the story not been suppressed, what would 3 weeks of investigation done for people had they not already voted? https://thepostmillennial.com/flashback-16-of-biden-voters .
Nothing, as
A) Hunter Biden is not on the ballot,
B) the timing is sketch as shit,
C) the chain of custody on that thing is so hilariously broken that by itself it means nothing, and
D) it takes more than three weeks to run an investigation anyway *and* the FBI wouldn't've/shouldn't've commented in ongoing investigations
Stop getting your information from blatant grifters
A) Hunter Biden is not on the ballot,
B) the timing is sketch as shit,
C) the chain of custody on that thing is so hilariously broken that by itself it means nothing, and
D) it takes more than three weeks to run an investigation anyway *and* the FBI wouldn't've/shouldn't've commented in ongoing investigations
Stop getting your information from blatant grifters
So that story would have had to have been something more then sketchy right wing garbage that to this day nobody has been able to prove is something meaningful other then "We have a laptop and it might have belonged to Hunter but who fucking knows because there's no chain of evidence to prove it" but also Hunter wasn't running for president and honestly, considering Trump helped killed a million Americans due to his piss poor management of Covid and had been priming for a Stolen Election narrative(which paved the way for Jan 6 and the treason his cult tried to pull of there) it was unlikely Biden could have fucking done anything to get me to not vote for him short of killing a baby on live TV.
And even if Micky Mouse runs for the Dems in 2024, I'd still vote for him over Trump or Desantis because that's how little I trust the GOP and their kooky Maga cultist wing at this point. Honestly, I never thought of myself as a straight ticket voters but 2016 changed that. IF the GOP kicked every fucking MAGA to the curb and pushed for Trump to got to Prison tomorrow, I might considering voting for a Republican for my local dog catching in 2044. MIGHT. That's how thoroughly disgusted I am by the entire party at this point and their embrace of the Q/Maga Wing.
But sure, lets impose an arbitrary timeline on this instead of admitting most people know who they're voting for long before they get their ballot unless they literally didn't pay attention to anything going on around them until election day.Ballots are finalized months prior to the election and have plenty of time to know what you're gonna vote for. So why this "No, they have to wait until one specific day in november, a day that most people have to work because it's still not a national holiday for some reason" and just making it harder for people to get their ballots in for PERFECTLY INNOCENT REASONS.
If someone is ready to vote when their mail in ballot arrives 3 weeks ahead of time, maybe you should just assume they know who and what they want to vote for/againest rather then trying to assume YOU know better then they do.
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I would hate to advocate for republicans but voting for Dems is a more high-risk high-reward type of deal. On the one hand, they support climate change, international cooperation, and democracy. On the other hand, they are nowadays more hawkish, and riskier with foreign policy.
TLDR: republicans isolationism, slow burn, eventual death, Dems liberal hawks, 50/50 on surviving to 2100.
The Xi, Biden superpower summit was a good midway detente, but all it takes is a series of escalations and miscalculations up the escalation ladder, and we could all end up in a nuclear winter.
Of course, this could be solved by republicans agreeing with climate change but fighting with republican solutions of free market tax cuts for renewables, apartments, townhouses, and low carbon goods and services as well as nuclear power bulk purchases, and of course democracy.
Dems could make a deal with Xi, and Putin about nuclear arms. I hate peace deals, but the world could use another START, and SALT deal with regard to hyper-sonics, nuclear weapons, and of course ET weapons of drones, AI, and biomedical advancements, etc.
And if Biden or the republican president doesn't do what I/the world needs, good luck to the world.
TLDR: republicans isolationism, slow burn, eventual death, Dems liberal hawks, 50/50 on surviving to 2100.
The Xi, Biden superpower summit was a good midway detente, but all it takes is a series of escalations and miscalculations up the escalation ladder, and we could all end up in a nuclear winter.
Of course, this could be solved by republicans agreeing with climate change but fighting with republican solutions of free market tax cuts for renewables, apartments, townhouses, and low carbon goods and services as well as nuclear power bulk purchases, and of course democracy.
Dems could make a deal with Xi, and Putin about nuclear arms. I hate peace deals, but the world could use another START, and SALT deal with regard to hyper-sonics, nuclear weapons, and of course ET weapons of drones, AI, and biomedical advancements, etc.
And if Biden or the republican president doesn't do what I/the world needs, good luck to the world.
Experts have validated much of the data as verifiably authentic.
Hunter Biden himself said the laptop could be his, suggesting it was hacked or stolen, which in both cases would indicate the contents of the laptop are authentic.
The FBI is investigating him. They are using the data from the laptop in the investigation.
The laptop is real, it was always real.
If it turns out Hunter committed a crime, then send him to jail. He can share a cell next to Donnie boy. I don't care.
Hell, they can share a cell and donnie can suck off hunter if they wish.
I would point out that a Republican led committee has already made an 87 page document saying that Joe definitely didn't do anything wrong and Hunter was using Joe's name
But, I generally agree. If they have the evidence, Hunter goes to jail.
I think they are just going to Benghazi this and bring people in front of committee after committee in hopes that the same evidence will prove someone is bad
