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Love him, hate him: Andrew Tate gains foothold in M’sian men’s psyche

Despite his recent arrest in Romania over human trafficking allegations, controversial British-American “male empowerment” influencer Andrew Tate enjoys significant popularity among men around the world, including Malaysia.


Towards the end of 2022, social media blew up with Tate’s arrest, which happened a mere day after he engaged in a viral Twitter spat with 20-year-old climate change activist Greta Thunberg.

Known for his controversial opinions on gender dynamics, Tate, who has over 4 million followers on Twitter alone, is a celebrated figure for some Malaysian men.

29-year-old corporate trainer Nor Aizuddin suggested that what he calls “radical feminism” and “hatred towards men” are among the reasons why Tate’s content has gained popularity locally.

“Feminism in Malaysia has somewhat grown into brainwashing young women into thinking that they’re programmed or designed to hate men.

“The truth is, feminism is mostly about fighting for rights and equality…it has nothing to do with degrading the opposite gender.
 

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Cos of fucking course. And of course it's LAPD too.


A cousin of Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors was killed by Los Angeles police after he got in a traffic accident and officers who showed up repeatedly Tased and restrained him in the middle of the street, according to body-camera footage and his family’s account.

Footage from the 3 January encounter released on Wednesday showed that Keenan Anderson, a 31-year-old high school teacher and father, was begging for help as multiple officers held him down, and at one point said, “They’re trying to George Floyd me.” One officer had his elbow on Anderson’s neck while he was lying down before another Tased him for roughly 30 seconds straight before pausing and Tasing him again for five more seconds.

“My cousin was asking for help, and he didn’t receive it. He was killed,” Cullors told the Guardian after watching the LAPD footage. “Nobody deserves to die in fear, panicking and scared for their life. My cousin was scared for his life. He spent the last 10 years witnessing a movement challenging the killing of Black people. He knew what was at stake and he was trying to protect himself. Nobody was willing to protect him.”

An officer who first arrived to the car collision at around 3.30pm at Venice and Lincoln boulevards found Anderson in the middle of the road, saying, “Please help me.” The officer told him to go on the sidewalk, and issued commands, saying, “Get up against the wall.” Anderson held his hands up, responding, “I didn’t mean to. I’m sorry.” Anderson complied with the officer’s commands and sat down on the sidewalk. After a few minutes, he appeared to be concerned with the officer’s behavior, saying, “I want people to see me,” and “You’re putting a thing on me.”


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Anderson was in a car collision and needed help, but was repeatedly Tased by the police. Photograph: Courtesy of Patrisse Cullors

Eventually, Anderson started to flee, at which point the officer chased him on his motorcycle, shouting, “Get down to the ground, now,” and “Turn over on your stomach.” Anderson repeatedly responded, “Please help me,” and “They’re trying to kill me,” as multiple officers arrived and held him down. One of them placed his elbow and bodyweight on Anderson’s neck while he was lying with his back on the ground. At this point, the officer standing above him shouted, “Turn over or I’m going to Tase you.”

During the Tasing, Anderson repeatedly said, “Help me,” as the officer told him to stop resisting.

Paramedics later arrived at the scene and took him to a hospital where, according to the LAPD, he went into cardiac arrest four and a half hours later and died.

‘His death could’ve been prevented’

Cullors and other advocates have questioned why it was necessary for armed police to show up to a collision.

“It was a traffic accident. Instead of treating him like a potential criminal, police should have called the ambulance,” said Cullors. “If there was a policy in which traffic stops were met with unarmed professionals who come to the scene to help with whatever situation has happened, that would have prevented my cousin’s death. And that would have prevented so many other deaths.”

She added, “These types of killings and this type of force will not be interrupted unless we have courageous elected officials come forward and challenge not just the police, but also the policies.”

National data has shown that roughly 10% of killings by police each year start with a traffic encounter, and that one in three people killed were fleeing before lethal force was used. Last year was the deadliest year for police violence since experts started tracking killings nationwide in 2013, according to a recent analysis. The LAPD has also fatally shot two people so far this year, and in 2020 killed Daniel Hernandez after he was in a car accident.

While some law enforcement officials and reform proponents have argued that Tasers are a “less lethal” weapon and an important tool to reduce police violence, experts and racial justice advocates have increasingly raised concerns about the mass deployment of stun guns. There is growing evidence of the potentially fatal consequences of Taser use, with a Reuters investigation finding more than 1,000 cases between 2000 and 2018 where people died after they were Tased.

Studies have also raised questions about the claim that Tasers provide a useful alternative to firearms, with research in San Francisco and Chicago suggesting that the widespread adoption of stun guns did not reduce fatalities, but that police were using Tasers in cases when they previously would have used no weapon. There have also been more than a dozen shootings by police in which the officers claimed they accidentally used their gun instead of their Taser, including the deaths of Oscar Grant and Daunte Wright.

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Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors: ‘These types of killings and this type of force … challenge not just the police, but also the policies.’ Photograph: Jae C Hong/AP

Dr Melina Abdullah, co-founder of Black Lives Matter Los Angeles, who went with Cullors to watch the body-camera footage, said on Wednesday: “It’s a reminder that when we say ‘Black lives matter,’ we mean our own Black lives, too. We’re not fighting for some cause, we’re fighting for our own lives and for our people.”

The LAPD chief, Michel Moore, said in a news conference that Anderson’s behavior was “erratic” and he suffered a “medical emergency”. He claimed that a preliminary blood test revealed cannabis and cocaine in Anderson’s system. A formal cause of death, however, has not been determined, and advocates have criticized the department for releasing that information and suggesting drug use was related to his death.

“Keenan’s murder is absolutely horrific. LAPD is not calling it a ‘killing’, but calling it an ‘in-custody death’. But Keenan was Tased to death. We know LAPD caused Keenan’s death,” Abdullah said. “We know that a minor traffic accident shouldn’t result in the death of anyone, let alone the death of this Black man, who was clearly unarmed and wasn’t doing anything wrong.”

Moore said the Taser was “activated” against Anderson 10 times, but that not all deployments were “effective”, adding, “It’s unclear what role the physical struggle with the officers and the use of the Taser played in his unfortunate death.” He claimed Anderson was in an “altered mental state” and that as the investigation continues, “I will play close attention to the use of the Taser.”

Under LAPD policy, he said, “There is no pre-set limit on the number of times a Taser can be used in a particular situation, however, officers should generally avoid repeated or simultaneous activations to avoid potential injury.”

Cullors said she didn’t know his mental state, but that he appeared to be “terrified of police” and in crisis after getting in a crash.

Mayor Karen Bass called the footage of Anderson and the two fatal shootings this month “deeply disturbing” in a statement, adding, “We must reduce the use of force overall, and I have absolutely no tolerance for excessive force … When there is no immediate risk to others, law enforcement must not be the first responder when someone is experiencing a mental health crisis.”

‘A committed educator’

Anderson, who leaves behind a young child, was working as an English teacher at the Digital Pioneers Academy, a majority-Black school in Washington DC, and was visiting LA, said Cullors. He previously worked at several other schools, including a charter school in Watts in LA.

Cullors said she and Anderson were part of a large family that migrated from Louisiana “to get away from racism, to get away from the terrorizing of white supremacists and the structures that impact our communities”.

Cullors, a longtime organizer who has talked about her brother’s abuse in LA jail, is one of three women credited with founding the Black Lives Matter movement in 2013 after George Zimmerman was acquitted of murdering Trayvon Martin in Florida.

“I think about the migration of Black people and what we do to try to keep our families safe, and coming to California and Los Angeles as this ‘western haven’. Given the impact law enforcement has had on so many of my family members and now the killing of my cousin, it’s painful, because he was so committed to family.”

Cullors continued: “He was so committed to his students. He was so present for them and was an educator who believed in education.” She recalled how Anderson at a young age was driven to “be a better human being, to make a difference and to impact people’s lives”.
 
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I followed it at the time, and checked again when reading this thread to refresh my memory. Exposing sexual assault in Hollywood was an explicit aim, very obviously so.
If you refreshed your memory, you'd have found the top 3 results for "me too movement" on google:

"In 2006, the “me too.” Movement was founded by survivor and activist Tarana Burke. In those early years, we developed our vision to bring resources, support, and pathways to healing where none existed before. And we got to work building a community of advocates determined to interrupt sexual violence wherever it happens.
In 2017, the #metoo hashtag went viral and woke up the world to the magnitude of the problem of sexual violence. What had begun as local grassroots work had now become a global movement — seemingly overnight. Within a six-month span, our message reached a global community of survivors. Suddenly there were millions of people from all walks of life saying “me too”. And they needed our help.

" The purpose of "Me Too", as initially voiced by Burke as well as those who later adopted the tactic, is to empower sexually assaulted people (especially young and vulnerable women of color) through empathy, solidarity, and strength in numbers, by visibly demonstrating how many have experienced sexual assault and harassment, especially in the workplace. "

"The ‘me too.’ movement was founded in 2006 by Tarana Burke to support survivors of sexual violence, particularly young women of color from low-wealth communities, to find pathways to healing. The movement’s vision from the beginning has been to address both the dearth of resources for survivors of sexual violence and to build a robust community of advocates and allies. In October 2017, the movement went global as the #MeToo hashtag went viral and survivors across the world came forward about their experiences with sexual assault.

You've had multiple opportunities to go "huh, I looked into this further, and didn't realize how it all started." You doubled down on wrong information instead. Oh well.
He also believes tampon size refers to vaginal diameter.
You support corporate astroturfing.
 

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If you refreshed your memory, you'd have found the top 3 results for "me too movement" on google:

"In 2006, the “me too.” Movement was founded by survivor and activist Tarana Burke. In those early years, we developed our vision to bring resources, support, and pathways to healing where none existed before. And we got to work building a community of advocates determined to interrupt sexual violence wherever it happens.
In 2017, the #metoo hashtag went viral and woke up the world to the magnitude of the problem of sexual violence. What had begun as local grassroots work had now become a global movement — seemingly overnight. Within a six-month span, our message reached a global community of survivors. Suddenly there were millions of people from all walks of life saying “me too”. And they needed our help.

" The purpose of "Me Too", as initially voiced by Burke as well as those who later adopted the tactic, is to empower sexually assaulted people (especially young and vulnerable women of color) through empathy, solidarity, and strength in numbers, by visibly demonstrating how many have experienced sexual assault and harassment, especially in the workplace. "

"The ‘me too.’ movement was founded in 2006 by Tarana Burke to support survivors of sexual violence, particularly young women of color from low-wealth communities, to find pathways to healing. The movement’s vision from the beginning has been to address both the dearth of resources for survivors of sexual violence and to build a robust community of advocates and allies. In October 2017, the movement went global as the #MeToo hashtag went viral and survivors across the world came forward about their experiences with sexual assault.

You've had multiple opportunities to go "huh, I looked into this further, and didn't realize how it all started." You doubled down on wrong information instead. Oh well.
I find it kind of astonishing you consider any of that to preclude exposing abuse in Hollywood. Why even would it?

Tarana Burke herself distinguishes between the movement she began in 2006, and the social media-driven iteration that grew in 2017-- and which was rocketed to prominence specifically because of efforts to expose Weinstein. I.e., the use and normalisation of abuse... in Hollywood.
 
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I find it kind of astonishing you consider any of that to preclude exposing abuse in Hollywood. Why even would it?
"Is the explicit aim" and "does not preclude" are very far apart.
Tarana Burke herself distinguishes between the movement she began in 2006, and the social media-driven iteration that grew in 2017-- and which was rocketed to prominence specifically because of efforts to expose Weinstein. I.e., the use and normalisation of abuse... in Hollywood.
None of that contradicts me.
 

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"Is the explicit aim" and "does not preclude" are very far apart.
Your post about how exposing abuse in Hollywood was somehow "accidental", and your insinuation that it reflected badly on them themselves, very obviously shows you thought there was a conflict there.

None of that contradicts me.
It shows that your quoted sections-- referring solely to the origins of the 2006 movement-- aren't very illuminating about whether or not the 2017 iteration focused on Hollywood.

And the fact that the 2017 iteration gained its traction specifically by focusing on Hollywood speaks directly to the point.
 

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You are leaving out the most significant part: the sign. They made carefully-phrased dedicated placards with company colors and logos, that is far more effort than the basket. Someone spent hours on that, likely with the intention of having their brand on social media. If you're unaware, the twitter account that posted the clown face with that has the specific m.o. of reposting content from left-wing social media accounts (usually from Tiktok). It is unlikely that picture was taken by a conservative intending to mock it on social media, it was almost certainly posted by a left-winger in support of the action, and if you asked me to bet on who specifically, my best guess would be Intuit's PR department. The company that makes TurboTax, who every year at this time gets raked over the coals for deceiving people into paying for free services, happens to get their name featured on a placard dedicated to telling you what they do to accommodate their trans employees... call me crazy, but there may be a causal relationship there.

To be clear, you're all going to bat for TurboTax.
Lmao, missed the point by a fucking mile

Keep working yourself up into a lather though, helping spread it further than it ever could on it's own while also making conservatives look like methed up sociopaths
(incidentally, Google image search didn't pull up any other hits on that photo, so it was probably taken by some incensed conservative and sent to libs directly. Hell, it's even got their watermark. Y'all need actual problems to be mad at instead of free menstrual projects in every bathroom)
 
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And the fact that the 2017 iteration gained its traction specifically by focusing on Hollywood speaks directly to the point.
Yes, the parts specifically about Hollywood gained traction. The argument we are having, the reason you are arguing me, is whether or not that was the explicit aim. You took issue with me saying that the intention was to expose sexual abuse everywhere but it ended up focusing on specifically Hollywood. If you have no problem with that statement, you have nothing to argue here.
 

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Yes, the parts specifically about Hollywood gained traction. The argument we are having, the reason you are arguing me, is whether or not that was the explicit aim. You took issue with me saying that the intention was to expose sexual abuse everywhere but it ended up focusing on specifically Hollywood. If you have no problem with that statement, you have nothing to argue here.
Your original statement wasn't just that, though, was it? It was the idea that it was an "accident", and the insinuation that it showed them up as "hypocrites" when it exposed Hollywood. It wasn't just a neutral observation about scope, which I wouldn't be particularly bothered about: it was aimed at showing #MeToo in a negative light.

It didn't "end up" focusing on Hollywood. They exposed numerous instances in Hollywood from the start, in 2017, very intentionally. If someone says, "Look, there's crime going on in my street! We should root it out!", it hilariously misses the point to respond, "Oops that's embarrassing, they've accidentally shown the fact there's crime on the street! Bet that's embarrassing for them, what hypocrites!"
 
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Your original statement wasn't just that, though, was it? It was the idea that it was an "accident", and the insinuation that it showed them up as "hypocrites" when it exposed Hollywood.
It's not the women, in or out of Hollywood, I was calling hypocrites. It's the men who were exposed as predators. Hollywood, the epicenter of rich people making judgmental public commentary, was shown to be filled with sexual predators, seemingly disproportionately so.
 

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It's not the women, in or out of Hollywood, I was calling hypocrites. It's the men who were exposed as predators. Hollywood, the epicenter of rich people making judgmental public commentary, was shown to be filled with sexual predators, seemingly disproportionately so.
This rewrite doesn't square with what you actually said. Predatory men did not create #MeToo, so they cannot be said to have "accidentally" exposed Hollywood through the hashtag.
 

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This rewrite doesn't square with what you actually said. Predatory men did not create #MeToo, so they cannot be said to have "accidentally" exposed Hollywood through the hashtag.
I didn't say predatory men accidentally exposed Hollywood through the hashtag. They were exposed. The MeToo movement exposed them. You seem to be confused as to where the hypocrisy part comes in. Let's revisit the first post I wrote.
I have never seen "me too" equated with "wokeness". Quite the contrary, "me too" is evidence of the gross hypocrisy of the "woke". When celebrities took part in #MeToo, they saw themselves as leading a movement that would expose the scale of sexual abuse everywhere, but the accidental result was exposing the scale of sexual assault in specifically Hollywood, in specifically the circles that condescend from their positions of power over those they see as less socially moral.
Read the last part.

What I'm saying is that Hollywood people, who see themselves as woke, who opine about the ailments of society beneath them, were highlighted in the MeToo movement as being exceptionally scandalous. The MeToo movement was not intended to be a Hollywood specific exposè, but it became that, and undermined every social justice platitude Hollywood has preached for years.
 

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Lunatics.
Something something "free market" something something.

Lotta weird shit happening today:

Non-zero chance that trans people being able to easily change their birth certificates in Scotland will break up the United Kingdom

Coal mine protest in Germany
I'm playing a mud wizard in the next campaign I'm in, I've been inspired.
 

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That's really stupid, of course, but what's to stop people buying EVs over the border?




Add some longbows, a king with glass delusion and you've got the basis of a Shakespeare play.
The DMV for one.