In other words we do not need to take the argument seriously.
Also I wonder if the US abusing its power to force an unwilling Ukraine to be Russia's puppet state doesn't count as ''meddling''. America and Russia dividing an unwilling Ukraine, and to some extend an unwilling continent between them strikes me a wee bit like imperialism.
Besides the current mess originated not from Nuland but Putin. He forced Yanukovitch to self destruct. He was the one who attempted to forbid Ukraine and the EU from forming ties.
Actually, it's the other way round: we need to take the argument seriously.
The U.S. has been at war for almost all of its existence:
The American history of overt and covert foreign interventions dates back to 1811, when it had invaded Chile, just a year after this South American country had gained independence from...
www.thenews.com.pk
Its most liberal President refers to it as the most warlike in modern history:
The only US president to complete his term without war, military attack or occupation has called the United States “the most warlike nation in the history
www.counterpunch.org
and part of a very long history of manipulating, destabilizing, and attacking dozens of countries far away from it, and on a global scale:
It has around 900 military installations now worldwide, with 400 encircling China. It has military spending that dwarfs those of other military powers combined, but funds it through incredible levels of borrowing and spending:
Investors are celebrating an incipient “recovery,” but the interventions that were responsible for it are sowing the seeds of a more violent contraction...
seekingalpha.com
leading to debt that it cannot pay, excluding over $180 trillion in unfunded liabilities:
As explained earlier, more countries are moving away from it, and not just the Global South, which consists of BRICS and over forty countries, with more joining them, but also its own allies: Japan is now buying oil from Russia at higher prices, France is selling gas to China for yuans, and it turns out that EU allies had been buying oil from Russia via India.
One reason why many poor countries and not just BRICS are responding to the U.S. is because they remember that manipulation, destabilization, and intervention.
Another reason is that the U.S. even supported all sorts of authoritarians, and today even has Saudi Arabia as a military ally and China as a major trading partner. Its propaganda of defending "freedom and democracy" doesn't hold water, especially given the point that it's also the primary arms dealer of the world. To make matters worse, they are supporting Zelensky, who has banned the opposition and is making deals with Wall Street.
With that, the only way that most people will heed the U.S. is if it starts working with China and engage in peace deals with Russia over Ukraine.
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