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Sociability isn't easy to learn, it requires a willingness to fail.
And the emotional intelligence to handle that failure and adapt and learn from it, rather than be so traumatised you just give up and so never really grow beyond that stage.
And you only get that from healthy family environment.
 

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There are the ask threads and also the times when the platitudes are given for seemingly no reason. And I don't think it just comes from people who've had little to no trouble, but also from people (or others who know these people) who always socialized only through hobbies and eventually got into a relationship through some lucky break. So there's perpetuation. In Finland it's pretty much expected, I reckon, but rising standards for "fulfilling relationships" are felt here too. Men that don't have many standards for themselves have don't expect much of others, men with high standards (and aren't delusional) take the red pill.

Personally I'm fine with being in the delusional bracket at this point. Would it be nice for things to be different? Sure. But it's all a game and it's rigged too.
 

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In that case it's not really relevant to the thread.
Hunter is mostly a desperate PR grasp for RW reactionaries who want ppl to believe history is blank, he don't exist much else in any woke world, so this thread seems appropriate enough, also yes tax evasion ain't woke. That kinda thread policing don't help anyone, surely? I hardly know what thread to put most shit in anyway, no doubt made many many such faux pas already. If Chimpzy must be disciplined, I must be disciplined tenfold!
 

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Hunter is mostly a desperate PR grasp for RW reactionaries who want ppl to believe history is blank, he don't exist much else in any woke world, so this thread seems appropriate enough, also yes tax evasion ain't woke.
See that's the thing: by focusing on whether something is woke or anti-woke one by necessity forces it down a binary view where there is only one aspect of it that truly matters. That might be a useful lens, in particularly if it is an aspect one truly cares about, but it is also a limiting one since there a multitude of aspects and perspectives one can have on events and focusing on one aspect by necessity limits the view.

I agree that tax evasion isn't woke, but I don't think it's anti-woke; my experience is that people opposed to wokeness/woke entities aren't pro-tax evasion, and I doubt that is a subject that is central to any woke/anti-woke debate so it is limiting or outright harmful to watch that aspect through that lens. As you said yourself, "he don't exist much else in any woke world".

But if I must look at Hunter Biden through that lens I'd put him in the woke crowd, marginally, since he's the son of a president whose policies are varied but lands on woke on the account of his political rival being decidedly anti-woke.
That kinda thread policing don't help anyone, surely?
Entirely possible. It might help someone expand their perspective.
I hardly know what thread to put most shit in anyway, no doubt made many many such faux pas already.
There is that lovely feature called "start a new thread" on this forum. Last time Trump tried to launch an investigation into Hunter Biden's dealings with Burisma the thread got quite long, so evidently there was something to discuss there.
 

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Hunter is mostly a desperate PR grasp for RW reactionaries who want ppl to believe history is blank, he don't exist much else in any woke world, so this thread seems appropriate enough, also yes tax evasion ain't woke. That kinda thread policing don't help anyone, surely? I hardly know what thread to put most shit in anyway, no doubt made many many such faux pas already. If Chimpzy must be disciplined, I must be disciplined tenfold!
It's disgusting that the weaponised DOJ will go after Trump but refuses to go after Hunter Biden!

Oh, wait.
 
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It's disgusting that the weaponised DOJ will go after Trump but refuses to go after Hunter Biden!
You know as well as I do that Hunter Biden himself was never the real issue. The issue is a US intelligence community that mobilizes against the truth if it might make Democrats look worse while propagating things they know are false if they can be used against Republicans. Nothing they could charge Hunter with is a bigger moral issue than impregnating a stripper and then pretending the child doesn't exist even after the paternity test. His reputation can't really go lower. They were trying to protect Joe Biden during the election, which is a big, big problem.
 

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So to recap, you can ban book if they're considered pornographic by the widest definition possible. But book that actually have pornographic content (like woman lusting after donkey ball and daugther getting their dad drunk so they can rape him) are okay because "The magnitude of the value of the Bible as a literary work outweighs any violence or profanity which may be contained in the book". Said value are obviously to tell people to send their money to the cult church.

Oh almost forgot, the "won't someone think of the children" crowd are really gung oh about returning a book where the ultimate good guy will totally send a pack of bear to savagely maul a group of children to death because they made fun of an old man. To reiterate, telling children its okay to be different = bad, sending bear to maul children to death = good.
 
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The issue is a US intelligence community that mobilizes against the truth if it might make Democrats look worse while propagating things they know are false if they can be used against Republicans. Nothing they could charge Hunter with is a bigger moral issue than impregnating a stripper and then pretending the child doesn't exist even after the paternity test. His reputation can't really go lower. They were trying to protect Joe Biden during the election, which is a big, big problem.
What's your take on the feds at the very last moment in the 2016 election announcing that "Oh hey, we have after all found a laptop with material of Hillary Clinton's e-mails"? Paul Krugman has argued that's what cost her the election.
 

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The issue is a US intelligence community that mobilizes against the truth if it might make Democrats look worse while propagating things they know are false if they can be used against Republicans.
... he says, casually ignoring the FBI publicly announcing another probe into Clinton's emails shortly before the 2016 election (which, inevitably, was a heap of nothing).

The issue is a US intelligence community that mobilizes against the truth if it might make Democrats look worse while propagating things they know are false if they can be used against Republicans.
As alleged by partisan Republican committees deliberately setting out to harass the president, as they explicitly told the electorate they were going to use such committees for. I can bet you that such committees are less honest than the intelligence services.
 

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You know as well as I do that Hunter Biden himself was never the real issue. The issue is a US intelligence community that mobilizes against the truth if it might make Democrats look worse while propagating things they know are false if they can be used against Republicans. Nothing they could charge Hunter with is a bigger moral issue than impregnating a stripper and then pretending the child doesn't exist even after the paternity test. His reputation can't really go lower. They were trying to protect Joe Biden during the election, which is a big, big problem.
If this was the case they wouldn’t have been rats intervening in Trumps favor.
 

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I think this one's a Bingo.
"Vaccine maximalists"? Did a new transformers line get releases and I didnt notice? Is cheetor the tetanus vaccine? Oh, did they make megatron be small pox?
 

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What's your take on the feds at the very last moment in the 2016 election announcing that "Oh hey, we have after all found a laptop with material of Hillary Clinton's e-mails"? Paul Krugman has argued that's what cost her the election.
... he says, casually ignoring the FBI publicly announcing another probe into Clinton's emails shortly before the 2016 election (which, inevitably, was a heap of nothing).
You mean they genuinely found new evidence, and still announced before the election that they were done and no charges were coming?
As alleged by partisan Republican committees deliberately setting out to harass the president, as they explicitly told the electorate they were going to use such committees for. I can bet you that such committees are less honest than the intelligence services.
There are primary sources for most of these things, you don't have to choose a position based on who you trust least. When something happens like Hunter Biden suing the computer repair guy for disseminating his private information, you don't get to say "Rudy Giuliani is untrustworthy so it must be fake", the owner of the laptop has confirmed it to the courts. Who cares what the partisan Republican committees are saying? Most of the info they base their claims on is publicly available.
 

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You mean they genuinely found new evidence, and still announced before the election that they were done and no charges were coming?
Unfortunately, it's not actually the case that being cleared magically removes all the suspicion from being investigated/charged. Secondly, they could have, I dunno... said nothing if it were merely another week or so to wrap up and declare no big deal..

There are primary sources for most of these things, you don't have to choose a position based on who you trust least. Most of the info they base their claims on is publicly available.
Publicly available... and harmless. The art of the committee is how to spice up this public knowledge with secret interviews, dodgy interpretation and speculation in order to fabricate smears.
 

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So to recap, you can ban book if they're considered pornographic by the widest definition possible. But book that actually have pornographic content (like woman lusting after donkey ball and daugther getting their dad drunk so they can rape him) are okay because "The magnitude of the value of the Bible as a literary work outweighs any violence or profanity which may be contained in the book". Said value are obviously to tell people to send their money to the cult church.

Oh almost forgot, the "won't someone think of the children" crowd are really gung oh about returning a book where the ultimate good guy will totally send a pack of bear to savagely maul a group of children to death because they made fun of an old man. To reiterate, telling children its okay to be different = bad, sending bear to maul children to death = good.
Wait, so porn is ok as long as there is a plot? Interesting...
 
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You mean they genuinely found new evidence, and still announced before the election that they were done and no charges were coming?
Indeed they did. When they first made their announcement my immediate reaction was to say "Crap" since I did not want Trump to win and anything that might hurt Clinton would help Trump. I started looking for reason to discredit their findings before stopping myself and thinking: "No. The FBI is just doing their job. If Clinton has done anything worthy of condemnation the public deserves to find that out, no matter if it leads to a political outcome I'd rather it not.".

I bring this up because you brought up the spectre of "The intelligence community is insincere in their view that Hunter Biden's alleged laptop is a likely Russian plant; that is just a way for them to associate something that would hurt Biden with an explanation that would not.". If we are to doubt the intentions in an instance that hurt Republican interests, why should we trust the same in an instance that would hurt Democrat interests? I am talking about how they chose to publicly announce that they had a laptop related to Clinton; that's something they could've done to sabotage her electoral prospects primarily.