Conflict between Palestine and Israel escalates
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I googled "Gaza Life expectancy", and scrolled til I found one that gave a number for just Gaza, here:
Gaza Strip - The World Factbook
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Then I googled "life expectancy World Map", and flicked quickly over the countries here to see what beat 75.66 from above:
Life Expectancy
People are living longer across the world, but large differences remain. Explore global data on life expectancy and how it has changed over time.
ourworldindata.org
And saw UAE, Kuwait, and Qatar significantly higher. I did forget Bahrain existed. I'm not saying it wasn't a sloppily made point, but I don't think you're going to dispute the overall point. One person is characterizing the area as a concentration camp where people are starved and poisoned and most don't make it to adulthood, and then you look at the numbers and they life longer there than people across most of the globe, including some immediate neighbors.
There are those positing just how much many people actually wanted this.
Imagine there are those that wanted weapons, regardless of where from, to get into the hands of terrorists. Any of that why the US left $80 billion in weapons behind in Afghanistan? Reportedly Milley states doing so was easier/more cost effective than retrieving them.
POTUS candidate Vivek Ramaswamy is seen on Tucker demanding to know why with all of the US/Israeli intelligence out there, could they not have seen this attack coming from a mile away? There are those that greatly profit from war. And now even relative isolationists are alarmed to the point of calling for the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from Gaza with a very negative view of the Palestinians.Example illustration for adults only:
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I would say the baby thing is unlikely, since stories like that are old war propaganda, meaning every single conflict has those exact stories. We got it for iraq, we got it for germany. The old style story is either babies being thrown into the air and being impaled on bayonets' or swords but its the same thing.
It also happens for real occasionally, though. Wouldn't be too surprised if babies were murdered by ether or both sides here.
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Maybe, but I think its one of those things there they are more likely to be collateral damage rather then deliberately targeted, but I suppose it also depends on what we mean by baby.
Ah, what I meant was this kind of news verification pinball. Disinformation, truths that then get blurred by disinformation, rumors, quick stances made in the heat of the moment. It reminds me of accounts of what it was like to be a journalist in the 1800's and early 1900's.
As for whether or not it's true. That babies died is true, it's just not possible for an attack that successful to not have killed babies, the question is how many, if any, were deliberately killed.
A further thing is, there WERE cases of Germans killing babies in WW1, but they were small instances and not reflective of the German army as a whole. It's... Humanity is tiring.
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Were there instances of germany killing babies in ww1? In ww2 I could kind of believe that since they were really dedicated to the whole 'exterminating the jews/gays/mentally whatever' but ww1? I know there were stories but there are always stories about everyone.
In WW1, the German person the British gave the nickname of "the baby-killer" to was Zeppelin, who pioneered the airships that bear his name, after a Zeppelin raid on London killed a baby, which was great for British propaganda. If Germans were known to be going around killing babies deliberately, and personally, I don't think he'd have been the one to have gotten the nickname.
It's also worth nothing that the Germans did kill lots of civilians (notably in Belgium). The outrage this generated is understandable, but the same had been done on larger scales by all the major combatants in places like Africa for generations, and did stop just before (or after) WW1.
From what I remember, the cases were from early in the war when they were still trying to carry out the Schlieffen plan. The sheer number of soldiers marching through countries not their own led to disorganization in many places. But that's what I remember.
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In modern war, a lot of civilians die, in old war a lot of civilians die. War isn't a good thing, unless you just want there to be a lot less people, its pretty good at reducing numbers for a bit.
Everyone wants their enemies to be baby killers, since its the ultimate unifier against a force, especially if you get it to stick. But as I said the baby killer story is as old as warfare. Treat it with a grain of salt unless its verified.
I never really focused on the dead babies in particular, I think the videos of them parading naked corpses through throngs of cheering cultists praising their chaotic evil deity and cheering, and that one video of a guy being decapitated with a hoe, is bad enough. Nobody is denying Israel is also doing war crimes and has been for a while now but I have a serious difficulty imagining Israelis celebrating in the streets surrounding a naked corpse of a woman or something like that. I think most if not all of em would be appalled at the sight, like a normal person with empathy and humanity.
This is basic stuff, even Achilles was condemned for desecrating the corpse of his enemy by dragging it behind his chariot, and this was over 2000 years ago. When you have a population operate with pre-bronze-age morality you can't quite approach them as one would a modern people with current-day sensibilities.
This is basic stuff, even Achilles was condemned for desecrating the corpse of his enemy by dragging it behind his chariot, and this was over 2000 years ago. When you have a population operate with pre-bronze-age morality you can't quite approach them as one would a modern people with current-day sensibilities.
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WATCH: Far-right Israelis celebrate Gaza kids’ deaths
In video from Tel Aviv demonstration, crowd can be seen chanting, ‘There is no school tomorrow; there are no children left in Gaza’
www.timesofisrael.com
Israel Probes Video Showing Celebration of Toddler's Death
The Samaria and Judea District Police said that it had opened an investigation on suspicion of incitement and other offenses.
It's so weird how many people are pro genocide it seems. I think it's legit messing with my mental health. every twit I see is Adolf Hitler versus Adolf Hitler. How can these people be fucking cruel?
It's mostly a set of professional politicians, their pet media, and a small stack of morons amplified by social media.
Unfortunately, the former group decides policy, and a significant number of them need the genocide to happen to trigger the win condition for their death cult
Unfortunately, the former group decides policy, and a significant number of them need the genocide to happen to trigger the win condition for their death cult
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That's more or less Hamas vs Netanyahu's clique, yes.
Mm. There are few things less inspiring than having to pick between two bunch of murderous scum.
