You grew up in the kind of environment where whenever somebody asked for help, the person "helping" took over the entire project, huh
That's the only way I can see somebody like you reading that passage and going "Aha! They forcing it!"
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That's the only way I can see somebody like you reading that passage and going "Aha! They forcing it!"
But that was okay when all that shit writing was focused on you. It's when the shit writing might focus on someone else that you get angry.
You don't seem to understand a lot of things, like the fact that videogame writing is subjective and not objectively bad. If you truly believe that videogame writing - all videogame writing - is terrible and nobody could conceivably enjoy it... Well, remember that bubble I mentioned?
You could ask that about any division of a game's developement.
Useful to who, consumers? Why? Unless Sweet Baby Inc. did some actual shady shit, like funnel away funds, why would that be useful information? Correction; why would it be useful information for people who want to avoid the impact they might've had on a game? Or should I say; what people would find that useful information?
Yeah, but that's up to the studio to decide, isn't it? If a studio decides to scrape a bunch of work or hire new employees which may or may not have a negative impact on the end product that's up to them.
When did I say SBI took over a game's narrative or characters?
When their About statement says they look to diversify video games and what a consultant does (per you own source) "insights and recommendations", how is SBI not providing insights on and recommending diversity in video games? You guys really love your mental gymnastics.
I also agreed with those complaining about white male protagonists were being forced as well...
You guys don't read the words I write because I didn't say that. There are games with good writing but they are so few and far between because just about all the writing talent is in other mediums where they get paid more. Again, common sense and basic logic. Going into any game and expecting good writing is a fool's errand. Let me know when a Fallout game has the creative talent of a Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy behind it.
You guys are in the bubble not even admitting to basic facts, you can't even tell me what SBI does because if you explain it any manner that makes sense and in line with what their About statement is along with what consultants do, then you have basically admitted that I'm right. Just based on what SBI tried to do to a gamer that merely made a list on Steam and their past tweets, I'm inclined to not support them as a company (plus they didn't even work on any game I'm interested in the 1st place either), and that has nothing to do with adding in DEI to games which you guys are doing hardcore mental gymnastics around.
'Nuh uh, I didn't say all game writing is bad, but expecting good writing from any game is stupid.' Common sense indeed.
Which basic facts?
They're a consultancy that helps developers with diversity and inclussion.
They're a consultancy that helps developers with diversity and inclussion.
They help developers with diversity and inclussion.
That they're a consultancy that helps developers with diversity and inclussion? Yes, you are right about that.
How does this
equal this?
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When super shitty writing like Uncharted 3 gets nominated for best writing, what does that tell you about the writing in the industry as a whole?
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SBI helps with diversity and inclusion how?
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Very easily when all you ever do is talk about how shit it is. And by infering we don't understand that it is shit, as if you know better what makes good writing. And when you are STILL bringing up Uncharted 3. Like, get the fuck over it, Jesus Christ! People like videogame story, characters, and writing, and you coming in with 'Don't you understand most of it is shit? Look at Uncharted 3.' makes you come across as a smug prick. Claiming ChatGPT should be involved in anything creative makes you come across like you don't know what the hell you're talking about when it comes to writing.
I'm not an expert but based on them being a consultancy, by informing and advising - by consulting.
By the way, why do developers need play testers and QA, can't they just see themselves whether the gameplay is good?
It's better to have someone separated from the development to test things. For one, developers know (theoretically) the game inside and out. Having built from the ground up certain aspects may not show up. An unintuitive UI for example, if you built the UI it makes sense to you, but it may not to other people. For second, QA and testing happens during development, so time spent testing by a developer is time not spent on finishing the game.
See, that's what I get for putting him on ignore and thus missing half the convo :VI know, it was a joke question.
Oh right, that exists. *sigh* Why do I hate myself?
I was thinking about giving a serious answer myself, TBH, but guessed it was a joke.
Well, the Escapist would lose a lot of posts if pointing out the obvious to someone determined not to pay attention stopped being a thing.
By saying something is XYZ on average does not mean literally everything is XYZ. Video game writing is really poor when compared to other mediums, that's just how it is. Uncharted 3's boat sections literally make no sense narratively so that's not subjective but objective. Also, the fact that a story/writing like Uncharted 3 gets nominated for such awards is telling even if it was much better written because Uncharted is effectively Indiana Jones and do you see Indiana Jones movies being nominated for writing for film awards? And Naughty Dog has said they make the levels/set-pieces first and the writer has to tie them together and it's pretty fucking obvious that's what they do. That's not how you write a really good story. If Uncharted 3 is even close to one of the better narratives for a year in video gaming, that tells you the writing is not up to snuff in the medium.
Because any way you try to explain makes SBI into changing stuff around to make the game more diverse.
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Crash won Best Picture at the Oscars. Really tells you movies as a medium kinda suck, huh? Why would anyone enjoy watching a movie when Green Book is considered one of the best movies ever made?
Than that means you really don't understand the concept of advising or informing.
Wrath of the Lich King era Warlocks would like to have a chat with you. An entire fucking expansion of trying to convince the devs that an effect that was supposed to generate 0 threat (Fel Armor) was instead generating double normal threat and being told that it very definitely wasn't doing that despite being able to explicitly illustrate that it very much was.
Though I miss being able set servers on fire with a Warlock with Engineering because of an obvious mistake involving a spell that did fire damage to yourself and a trinket that reflected fire damage dealt to you back to it's source... The server could only handle so many unresolvable packets of damage traveling in infinite loops.