Musk Unveils CyberCab; Tesla Stock Loses $40 Billion In Value

[The Rogue Wolf]

Tesla shares fall after Elon Musk’s glitzy ‘Cybercab’ event disappoints

Stock drops 8% as investors are underwhelmed by lack of detail about planned autonomous fleet

www.irishtimes.com

I have a few observations:

- It's hilarious how Musk thinks he's going to have self-driving solved for these things when he still can't get it working in Teslas

- Under $30k for a self-driving electric car is... supremely ambitious, and to veer a little towards politics, I think Musk is depending very heavily on subsidies from a Trump government

- The car has no charging port and will, according to Musk, recharge through parking over an induction pad; Tesla had better have invested in some good technology to overcome the inherent inefficiency of wireless charging

 

[Thaluikhain]

- The car has no charging port and will, according to Musk, recharge through parking over an induction pad; Tesla had better have invested in some good technology to overcome the inherent inefficiency of wireless charging

Deliberately made it incompatible with existing stuff can sometimes work in a greedy business sense, but I doubt it will here.

 

[Agema]

- The car has no charging port and will, according to Musk, recharge through parking over an induction pad; Tesla had better have invested in some good technology to overcome the inherent inefficiency of wireless charging

Wireless charging is usually about 70-90% efficient compared to wired. Given the relative costs of electric to fossil fuel, that's still pretty viable.

So I read this recently: it puts automatic cars into perspective. In the future, you not only have to buy a car upfront and then pay the maintenance, but now you've also got to pay the car company a sum every month/year for the privilege of the company not rendering your car non-functional.

 

[Thaluikhain]

So I read this recently: it puts automatic cars into perspective. In the future, you not only have to buy a car upfront and then pay the maintenance, but now you've also got to pay the car company a sum every month/year for the privilege of the company not rendering your car non-functional.

On the other hand, sooner or later a talented or lucky hacker is going to become legendary.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

On the other hand, sooner or later a talented or lucky hacker is going to become legendary.

It's not as if those vulnerabilities don't already exist, even: https://www.wired.com/story/kia-web-vulnerability-vehicle-hack-track/

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

Wireless charging is usually about 70-90% efficient compared to wired. Given the relative costs of electric to fossil fuel, that's still pretty viable.

It also causes your battery to heat up more and causes it to degrade faster, but I'm sure having to replace batteries more often doesn't benefit Tesla in any way...

 

[Bob_McMillan]

Surprised no one has mentioned that the car is only a two seater. Which seems counter intuitive to the whole self driving thing.

 

[Agema]

It's not as if those vulnerabilities don't already exist, even: https://www.wired.com/story/kia-web-vulnerability-vehicle-hack-track/

Having your car hacked and tracked is bad.

But in terms of safety, I'm possibly more worried about them hacking your steering, acceleration and brakes. The cybertruck already steers electronically. The acceleration if not already could easily follow. I imagine that basic vehicle safety regulations might demand a mechanical brake... but do they?

For instance, I believe the cybertruck is illegal in Europe because it fails pedestrian safety standards - the design is deeply hostile to the health and survivability of squishies it might accidentally hit. As far as I am aware, the USA... has no regulations for the protection of pedestrians. I mean, it's probably got some of those bogus "self-regulation" regulations, which of course approximate to no regulation. (Just like for instance Boeing was effectively allowed to self-regulate, and we all know how Boeing is doing currently.)

 

[Chimpzy]

For instance, I believe the cybertruck is illegal in Europe because it fails pedestrian safety standards - the design is deeply hostile to the health and survivability of squishies it might accidentally hit.

That is correct, but not just pedestrian safety. It fails a bunch of European road and safety standards.

 

[Agema]

That is correct, but not just pedestrian safety. It fails a bunch of European road and safety standards.

What can I say? Europeans just hate innovation.

 

[Satinavian]

This new cybercab will also never be allowed on Europes road. No emergency driver controls for a self driving car ? Forget it.

 

[Alienware]

Let's talk about the elephant in the room

 

[Chimpzy]

Let's talk about the elephant in the room

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Is it tho?

Tesla autonomous cars can't go 10 miles without doing something suicidal. It doesn't seem that way, because we literally practice it from birth, but basic humanoid movement is already vastly more complex than anything a car does, let alone the level of ability, and more importantly, understanding that would be required for an android assistant to be viable (and safe).

I wouldn't trust one of these things to not murder me in my sleep with a toilet brush because it hallucinated my mouth is a toilet in need of cleaning.

 

[Gordon_4]

Let's talk about the elephant in the room

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It still irrationally annoys me that they're called 'Optimus'.

 

[Satinavian]

Let's talk about the elephant in the room

Pure distraction to keep investors investing.

Cybertruck failed spectacularly. The regular EVs are loosing out to competition. The autonomous driving does not work. And Tesla was way overvalued before.

So we need to sell new visions that might geht really big somewhere in the future : Don't miss out, buy stocks.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

Let's talk about the elephant in the room

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The "autonomous" robots that were basically remote-controlled by humans?

It still irrationally annoys me that they're called 'Optimus'.

Musk hasn't had an original idea in his life.

 

[Alienware]

Have you guys seen this? It's been everywhere on social media lately. Hmm, looks a bit familiar.

 

[Alienware]

It still irrationally annoys me that they're called 'Optimus'.

I agree they should of just called it, irobot

 

[Alienware]

The "autonomous" robots that were basically remote-controlled by humans?


Musk hasn't had an original idea in his life.

Is that a popular belief? that robots are remote-controlled by humans?

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

Is that a popular belief? that robots are remote-controlled by humans?

Elon Musk's Beer-Pouring Optimus Robots Are Not Autonomous

The robots were interacting with guests at Tesla's big Cybercab event Thursday in L.A.

gizmodo.com