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What's the betting that MAGAs will be 'patrolling' the lines on voting day and pulling 'illegals' out of them.
But don't you see? If we let Kamala Harris win, she'll support transgender rights! SHe even wants to let biological men play on women's teams!

I wish I was exaggerating, but I literally saw an attack ad yesterday quoting Kamala Harris' stance on transgender rights as being a bad thing. And my second sentence was almost a direct quote in words, if not tone.
 
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But don't you see? If we let Kamala Harris win, she'll support transgender rights! SHe even wants to let biological men play on women's teams!

I wish I was exaggerating, but I literally saw an attack ad yesterday quoting Kamala Harris' stance on transgender rights as being a bad thing. And my second sentence was almost a direct quote in words, if not tone.
That ad came up three times, back to back when I was watching the Lions game yesterday.
 

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I didn't back then but only because I wasn't very politically active until after Obama (who ironically is the one who really pushed me into being more active and anti-Democrat; #CHANGE my big fat ass!).

I imagine Obama was responsible for a lot of "radicalization" like mine that has happened over this last decade as he said all the right things and then jammed a knife in our collective backs as he decided RvW wasn't important enough to push for, bailed out banks and let everyone in charge skate away while the people suffered for their greed, passed RomneyCare so people stopped pushing for ACTUAL change, drone strikes, etc etc

Edit: I misread, 2016 is when I would have really started to jump in since that's when Obama ended. So I probably did ***** about Obama and Democrats for their bullshit and hypocrisy come 2016 😅
I understand Obama was not a great president. He is only good based on comparing him to all other recent presidents

I could also understand that there were the Tim Pool's or Dave Rubin's of the world getting radicalised by Obama .... I don't understand their full tilt to MAGA
 

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But don't you see? If we let Kamala Harris win, she'll support transgender rights! SHe even wants to let biological men play on women's teams!

I wish I was exaggerating, but I literally saw an attack ad yesterday quoting Kamala Harris' stance on transgender rights as being a bad thing. And my second sentence was almost a direct quote in words, if not tone.
Every side can rest assured that Harris will do absolutely nothing for or against Transrights
 

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If you think that higher Stein numbers on the day is just as bad news for Trump as it is for Harris, you're being wilfully obtuse.
that's a very good way of saying that you think your assumptions can take the place of analysis and that you aren't willing to hear otherwise. but there are even scenarios in which higher Stein numbers on the day of the election are better for Harris that are consistent with your assumptions about the inclinations of third party voters: e.g. that the anti-Trump vote in general was mobilized and turned out in greater numbers.

Yet, I think we can both much more easily imagine circumstances in which someone who prefers Stein may vote for Harris. After all, there are quite a few such people in this very thread.
This forum is not a random sample.
 
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I understand Obama was not a great president. He is only good based on comparing him to all other recent presidents

I could also understand that there were the Tim Pool's or Dave Rubin's of the world getting radicalised by Obama .... I don't understand their full tilt to MAGA
Some people saw the injustice happening and decided to become better people. Others saw the injustice happening and decided injustice is fine as long as they get to be the one wearing the boots (and/or they could make easy money off of it).
 

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You might think "wait, ain't a large chunk of the playerbase underage?" and wonder wtf the point is, but that's why it's genius.
After the election they'll release Gaza and Lebanon maps for CoD Warzone.
 
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Idiots and cowards. They do realize they're burning ballot boxes that have people voting for Trump in the right? You are literally helping no one; not even yourselves. The one guy claiming not politically motivated is the biggest kind of coward.
They're likely banking on more mail ballots being for Harris then for Trump.
 
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that's a very good way of saying that you think your assumptions can take the place of analysis and that you aren't willing to hear otherwise.
I'm very willing to see some evidence or compelling arguments to the contrary, like this. It reassures me when I do see those perspectives. Denial of the basics of probability in human behaviour ain't it.

This forum is not a random sample.
Indeed. But Stein herself, and the Republican groups funding her, seem to agree on where she draws the majority of her support, and see a tactical approach there.
 

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They're also likely to mean lower Trump numbers, as they are votes that are not for Trump that could have been.
Not really. The Green party mostly diverts voters who would otherwise vote Democrat - this is why they keep getting conservative funding, it's not about getting the Greens to win so much as getting the Dems to lose.

What's the betting that MAGAs will be 'patrolling' the lines on voting day and pulling 'illegals' out of them.
Maybe they'd get a meaningless injunction against them not to do it next time at that polling place and some DOJ lawyers resigning over it like with the 2008 NBPP voter intimidation case. Unless Harris wins, then it might be seen as important enough to prosecute since it would be right winger intimidating.


They do realize they're burning ballot boxes that have people voting for Trump in the right? You are literally helping no one; not even yourselves.
Depends on what you expect the ratio of votes in those boxes to be. But even then that's not the point - the point is to create doubt in the system, if the win in those states isn't by a landslide then clearly those lost ballots would have changed the result for any vaguely close race!
 

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Depends on what you expect the ratio of votes in those boxes to be. But even then that's not the point - the point is to create doubt in the system, if the win in those states isn't by a landslide then clearly those lost ballots would have changed the result for any vaguely close race!
Which makes them still pathetic and loser dumb asses.
 

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Musk confirms that if Trump wins and actually gets his policies through it will definitely crash the US economy.

He then makes the claim that after the initial economic crash and upheaval of critical industries he and Trump will reshape the economy and make it better and more sustainable.

Of course this is bullshit. A massive economic crash of this size is going to completely wipe out a lot of American wealth, and even if Trump and Musk intend to "fix" things afterward I don't for a second believe they have enough insight and follow-through to make anything better. Meanwhile this is exactly what China and Russia want, a weakened and destabilized US. It makes sense that Musk is pushing for this given how much he loves talking to Putin.