I guess we have to protect our Precious Bodily Fluids. We'll all be drinking rainwater and grain alcohol.
US 2024 Presidential Election
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Also as a reminder of what was posted earlier in the other thread, and why we might have to wait a while for history to catch up with the truth -
https://www.mintpressnews.com/revealed-israel-unit-8200-spies-american-media/288457/
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This aged like milk. Thank you, Merrick Garland for doing a bad job.
Do racist assholes endorsing you still show how bad and evil you are or does that logic only apply when a racist asshole endorses Jill Stein?
It's possible, sure. But after condemning me for supposedly making assumptions about other peoples' behaviour, it seems bizarre to me to then make these drastic assumptions yourself.
But also: this assumption was specifically made in order to expose a supposed contradiction in my own thought process. But... if I never made that assumption to begin with, then I'm not contradicting myself. I'm just not buying into your assumption.
Scarlett Johansson Assembles the Avengers to Fight Donald Trump
Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr., Chris Evans, Mark Ruffalo, Don Cheadle, Danai Gurira, and Paul Bettany joined forces to get out the vote for what Johansson calls an “emergency” election.
My dudes. I spent a long time trying to pick the right words not to offend you and to make sure I got my point across.
It sounds like you are offended by my opinion and calling it shaming. My intention was not to shame you. I literally couldn't care less and I don't care what you vote. I'm telling you where you are wrong about how your vote matters.
But I'm also trying to gauge what you guys think what shaming is. Because definitely a difference of opinions. I'll also point out that I didn't say Tippy said I was vote-shaming them. That's why I was limiting it to Crimson because they were making that claim
No, I actually understand. You're just confusing understanding with you not liking decisions. I'll pick random numbers to illustrate a point in a few short sentences
I'll predict that 200k Palestinians will die under Haris. 1 million will die under Trump. There is no option with 0 deaths. Some people here think that picking Harris is killing fewer people so they'll vote that way. If they don't, way more Palestinians will be killed
You think that if you don't pick, you don't shoulder any of the blame. And you are willing to risk more deaths to get it. Some people can't understand why you would risk 800k more people dying just so you can so you didn't vote
Ultimately with the Voter Shaming thing, I couldn't care less. I was just more curious about your definition since you keep saying that I'm voter shaming people. People can "voter shame" me all they want because I'm never going to feel shamed for voting against Genocide.
For your "predictions" though...
Amount of Israeli bombs dropped on Gaza surpasses that of World War II
Israel dropped 70,000 tons of bombs on Gaza Strip since last October, exceeding World War II bombings in Dresden, Hamburg, London combined, according to rights monitor - Anadolu Ajansı
www.aa.com.tr
All you're doing is lying to yourself if you are trying to convince me that Trump can possibly be worse than Biden/Harris on Gaza. Gaza is CURRENTLY being turned into a parking lot, there is no "Well if Trump wins, Gaza will be turned into a parking lot and made to be beachfront property!!!". It's already happening. We are seeing it live streamed by Israel and the IDF and the people of Gaza.
Vote for Harris if you want but I wish Democrats would just drop the damn act and just say "We don't care enough about the genocide in Gaza for it to factor into our vote". Just stop pretending like they're voting Harris because she'll be better for Palestine than Trump would be and that they're far more concerned about what Trump will do here than they are about a bunch of foreigners in some other country being slaughtered. I could at least begrudgingly respect that over lying straight to my face about how Harris will be better for Palestine because she pays lip service about how Israel needs to stop blowing up civilians.
As I've stated in every election since I started voting Third Party, I would be ecstatic if The Democrats would prove me wrong. I would love nothing more than to come back into this thread in six months and go "I was so very wrong, I'm sorry". But I haven't been wrong about The Democrats yet so I have no reason to believe I'll be wrong this time. Voting Democrat this go around is giving them the green light to do whatever the hell they want to and it's only a matter of when, not if, they decide a cause close to you becomes the next one to get the chopping block...
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Your point was to tell Tippy that he views people as pawns to be sacrificed when that is the precise opposite of his position. It shows a deep lack of understanding of the motivation of Stein voters and trying to diminish the precise reason they're voting for Stein.
None of that changes that voting third party will not help a single Palestinian even one bit.
You are correct and it's a little refreshing to see someone on Team Harris not pretending like she isn't going to be the exact same as Trump when it comes to reigning in Israel
However what it will tell Democrats is that Genocide is NOT a deal breaker for voters. Sure, in the short term that probably won't mean much but once you've given them the greenlight to do a literal genocide, they'll know there is no line they can cross that'll make voters hold them accountable. It might not be today or tomorrow but eventually that Butchers Bill will arrive and somehow you will all still argue that they're the lesser evil so sucks for [Next Group being sacrificed] but we have to do damage control. Eventually they'll get to a cause you care about so you better hope by that point that there is still someone left to speak up for you when you stayed silent cause you weren't a [Next Group being sacrificed]
Hey, democrats reliably make overtures to the left when they lose. They push to the right more when they win.
I don't expect The Democrats to learn a thing whether they win or lose (Christ, they're literally using the same "She's not Trump!!!" playbook that worked so well for Hillary). They'll continue to slowly but surely inch by inch their way to the right, pretend that they're the left and it's evil to oppose them THIS time cause this election is the most important election of our lifetime but don't you worry next time we can try to really pressure them left, and then we'll do this all over again. Except next time with the knowledge that their supporters won't even stand up to them when Genocide is on the table.
The Democratic Party isn't my party. I'm not voting for them because I think it'll change their ways. I'm not voting for them because they don't represent my values. If they ever wish to court my vote, I am absolutely open to that but Harris is WAY closer to Trump than she is to me and that would have to change for me to even consider giving her a chance.
I actually posted evidence that people think that way. For that matter, YOU actually posted evidence that people think that way.
Boooooo, where is this guy?Next big MCU villain confirmed. And here I was thinking they were doing Doom.Scarlett Johansson Assembles the Avengers to Fight Donald Trump
Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr., Chris Evans, Mark Ruffalo, Don Cheadle, Danai Gurira, and Paul Bettany joined forces to get out the vote for what Johansson calls an “emergency” election.www.vanityfair.com