I guess we have to protect our Precious Bodily Fluids. We'll all be drinking rainwater and grain alcohol.
I guess we have to protect our Precious Bodily Fluids. We'll all be drinking rainwater and grain alcohol.
Also as a reminder of what was posted earlier in the other thread, and why we might have to wait a while for history to catch up with the truth -The best time to have stopped Israel's slaughter of The Palestinians was a year ago. The next best time is today.
We are allowing Israel to genocide an entire people using our funds and our weapons. Hell, unless Israel decided to go rogue, we could stop this genocide with a phone call. But we don't. We choose to continue to fund it and we continue to support it and we continue to allow it.
Hamas is fighting against an invading force. Israel isn't even hiding the fact that they consider every man, woman, and child in Palestine as Hamas and they will not stop their "war with Hamas" until they are stopped by an outside force. In 50 years when the history books question how we could let Holocaust 2.0 continue on, you won't even have the German people's excuse of "we didn't know" as The IDF itself gleefully uploads their genocide online.
Make all the excuses for Israel and The US that you want because assuming they don't manage to drag us into WW3 and kill us all, history will be an incredibly harsh judge over what we're doing
It's possible, sure. But after condemning me for supposedly making assumptions about other peoples' behaviour, it seems bizarre to me to then make these drastic assumptions yourself.Why would this be controversial to you? People have all kinds of different priority lists and stances on lesser evil voting (including who is the lesser evil) and perspectives and apprehension of different facts and weightings of different factors; some of them would absolutely prefer Trump to Harris and indeed vote in such a manner because Trump, for what it is worth, is not as yet guilty of the genocide of Palestinians (or at the very least not on the scale that we've seen in this last year).
Happiness is irrelevant, but some would do it. People are complicated.
I am also very confused on your definition of "Voter Shaming"
I am talking about what I think happens when you vote Democrats. I am ripping the Democrats and what I think will happen if voters choose to reward The Democrats for genocide.
If all it takes to "voter shame" in your eyes is shitting on candidates, then anyone who has ever talked politics in their entire life is voter shaming because everyone has one side they want to win, which by default means they have (at least) one side they want to lose...
I've said in many posts at this point that I understand why people are choosing to vote out of fear rather than what they actually want but that doesn't mean I'm not incredibly disappointed in them. I guess if that's Voter Shaming, then I'm a Voter Shamer cause again, if Genocide can't be a Red Line for people, there IS no Red Line the Democrats can cross and they are going to 100% get that lesson out of this election because The Voters have told them loud and clear that Genocide is not a deal breaker for them.
My dudes. I spent a long time trying to pick the right words not to offend you and to make sure I got my point across.The one in response to you being insulting and voteshaming him? Yeah, that really earns sympathy and proves your point.
No, I actually understand. You're just confusing understanding with you not liking decisions. I'll pick random numbers to illustrate a point in a few short sentencesBut again and something that you guys either can't or won't understand
Ultimately with the Voter Shaming thing, I couldn't care less. I was just more curious about your definition since you keep saying that I'm voter shaming people. People can "voter shame" me all they want because I'm never going to feel shamed for voting against Genocide.My dudes. I spent a long time trying to pick the right words not to offend you and to make sure I got my point across.
It sounds like you are offended by my opinion and calling it shaming. My intention was not to shame you. I literally couldn't care less and I don't care what you vote. I'm telling you where you are wrong about how your vote matters.
But I'm also trying to gauge what you guys think what shaming is. Because definitely a difference of opinions. I'll also point out that I didn't say Tippy said I was vote-shaming them. That's why I was limiting it to Crimson because they were making that claim
No, I actually understand. You're just confusing understanding with you not liking decisions. I'll pick random numbers to illustrate a point in a few short sentences
I'll predict that 200k Palestinians will die under Haris. 1 million will die under Trump. There is no option with 0 deaths. Some people here think that picking Harris is killing fewer people so they'll vote that way. If they don't, way more Palestinians will be killed
You think that if you don't pick, you don't shoulder any of the blame. And you are willing to risk more deaths to get it. Some people can't understand why you would risk 800k more people dying just so you can so you didn't vote
Your point was to tell Tippy that he views people as pawns to be sacrificed when that is the precise opposite of his position. It shows a deep lack of understanding of the motivation of Stein voters and trying to diminish the precise reason they're voting for Stein.My dudes. I spent a long time trying to pick the right words not to offend you and to make sure I got my point across.
It sounds like you are offended by my opinion and calling it shaming. My intention was not to shame you. I literally couldn't care less and I don't care what you vote. I'm telling you where you are wrong about how your vote matters.
But I'm also trying to gauge what you guys think what shaming is. Because definitely a difference of opinions. I'll also point out that I didn't say Tippy said I was vote-shaming them. That's why I was limiting it to Crimson because they were making that claim
If enough people vote Stein to win.None of that changes that voting third party will not help a single Palestinian even one bit.
You are correct and it's a little refreshing to see someone on Team Harris not pretending like she isn't going to be the exact same as Trump when it comes to reigning in IsraelNone of that changes that voting third party will not help a single Palestinian even one bit.
Hey, democrats reliably make overtures to the left when they lose. They push to the right more when they win.I don't think they will take the lessions from a lost election that you want them to take.
I don't expect The Democrats to learn a thing whether they win or lose (Christ, they're literally using the same "She's not Trump!!!" playbook that worked so well for Hillary). They'll continue to slowly but surely inch by inch their way to the right, pretend that they're the left and it's evil to oppose them THIS time cause this election is the most important election of our lifetime but don't you worry next time we can try to really pressure them left, and then we'll do this all over again. Except next time with the knowledge that their supporters won't even stand up to them when Genocide is on the table.I don't think they will take the lessions from a lost election that you want them to take.
Gareth Gore joins to talk about his new book Opus: The Cult of Dark Money, Human Trafficking, and Right-Wing Conspiracy inside the Catholic Church.
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Gareth Gore then joins, diving right into the story of his research into the collapse of a Spanish bank that led him to uncover the outrageous and extensive financial connections between Opus Dei, said bank, and myriad “hospitality” schools across the globe that routinely trafficked women, before stepping back to unpack what Opus Dei is and its process of radicalization under Spanish Priest (and founder) Josemaría Escrivá in early 20th Century Spain to become the reactionary, militant, elite-connected, and Papal-doubting organization that we see today. After briefly expanding on the expansive state of Opus Dei’s connection to the contemporary US conservative movement, particularly in the Courts and Media, Gore steps back to analyze the rise of Opus Dei in the US, walking through its first few decades of struggle before its lingering presence around elite institutions finally took off, and exploring its central motive (from its roots in Spain) of pervading elite networks to grow its political power, with the ultimate goal of imposing their theocratic rule. Gareth also walks Sam through the story of Opus Dei’s “Hospitality Schools,” as a central example of their emphasis on abusive and exploitative hierarchy, and the overwhelming backlash to his reporting from Opus Dei-affiliated groups and individuals, before wrapping up by assessing the role the organization is playing in the ongoing US elections, with tight ties to both GOP Mega-Donor Leonard Leo and Vice Presidential candidate JD Vance.
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I actually posted evidence that people think that way. For that matter, YOU actually posted evidence that people think that way.It's possible, sure. But after condemning me for supposedly making assumptions about other peoples' behaviour, it seems bizarre to me to then make these drastic assumptions yourself.
But also: this assumption was specifically made in order to expose a supposed contradiction in my own thought process. But... if I never made that assumption to begin with, then I'm not contradicting myself. I'm just not buying into your assumption.
Boooooo, where is this guy?Next big MCU villain confirmed. And here I was thinking they were doing Doom.Scarlett Johansson Assembles the Avengers to Fight Donald Trump
Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr., Chris Evans, Mark Ruffalo, Don Cheadle, Danai Gurira, and Paul Bettany joined forces to get out the vote for what Johansson calls an “emergency” election.www.vanityfair.com
Then they must be removed entirely, because there is no other way.I don't think they will take the lessions from a lost election that you want them to take.