US 2024 Presidential Election
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They lost all three branches of our government and got completely embarrassed in the presidential race but everything is great!
I asked when did he DO that, not if/when he said that. So last time when he said to "lock her up", he went and prosecuted Hillary Clinton? Or did I miss when that actually happened?
Donald Trump rules out top jobs for Nikki Haley and Mike Pompeo
Trump's closest allies have warned him Haley and Pompeo would plot to undermine his 'America First' agenda.
www.bbc.com
Very interesting.
Trump’s campaign was pretty stupid to put a roaster in his rally lineup. If anything maybe it’ll help the very real issue gain exposure so something can be done about it.
No explanation needed for why the ruling class routinely goes unpunished, which could also apply to Trump at this point. The difference being like you said, he was convicted, even though Smith also has a pretty questionable track record of his own.
Regardless of sides, the bottom line is there needs to be a leveling of the playing field, where no amount of connections can protect anyone from whatever comeuppance they deserve.
Anyways,
Trump just realigned the entire political map. Democrats have 'no easy path' to fix it.
Donald Trump’s scrambling of long-held narratives over who certain Americans will support has Democrats scrambling for answers.
Pompeo would restrict him too much in Isreal/ GazaDonald Trump rules out top jobs for Nikki Haley and Mike Pompeo
Trump's closest allies have warned him Haley and Pompeo would plot to undermine his 'America First' agenda.
Very interesting.
I only just learnt what Destiny's name is in the last month and was confused all year when they said, 'Steven Bonnell said x'. I was thinking who cares about what some random Steve is thinking? But it was just Destiny
Please, are you going to tell us that Trump hasn't sold himself as anti-government? Anti establishment?An outsider?
I've been listening non-MAGA people who voted for Trump for the last couple of months. This is what I can sum up:
Both sides are bad. Especially on economics for the worker. Vote for Trump because he's a criminal and will break it. It can't be worse than what is happening now
Burning things is just taken from them
Edit: I forgot
Do you know what happens if you drain a swamp? It's no longer a swamp. They don't actually care about it being hot and burning. They want it gone
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A departure from the politics of those two may not be a good thing, but sticking with them would certainly be a bad thing.Donald Trump rules out top jobs for Nikki Haley and Mike Pompeo
Trump's closest allies have warned him Haley and Pompeo would plot to undermine his 'America First' agenda.
Very interesting.
Which then raises the question again: who cares about what some random Steve is thinking?
It's a shame Epstein "killed himself"; I'm sure he would've been a popular pick for the Republican nomination. But I'll look forward to seeing Diddy win the election in about 20 years or so.
Arizona called for Trump. That's all 7 battleground states. Trump 312 - Kamala 226.
Here's what I don't get. In 2020 Biden got 81M votes and Trump 74M. In 2024, Trump gets basically the same number (he went up 400k) and Kamala gets... 70M.
(Third parties got even less votes this election btw - from 2.8M in 2020 to >2M in 2024).
So there're 10 million Democratic voters from 2020 who simply didn't show up. And Kamala did worse than Biden with literally every demographic - white, black, latino, etc. Couldn't outperform him anywhere, per CNN on election night.
Now I'm willing to believe that good ole murican sexism and racism played a part here, even though a black man won twice and a woman did get most votes one time.
... but 10 million less voters though? Trump gets the same turnout but 10 million democrats dgaf anymore?
Here's what I don't get. In 2020 Biden got 81M votes and Trump 74M. In 2024, Trump gets basically the same number (he went up 400k) and Kamala gets... 70M.
(Third parties got even less votes this election btw - from 2.8M in 2020 to >2M in 2024).
So there're 10 million Democratic voters from 2020 who simply didn't show up. And Kamala did worse than Biden with literally every demographic - white, black, latino, etc. Couldn't outperform him anywhere, per CNN on election night.
Now I'm willing to believe that good ole murican sexism and racism played a part here, even though a black man won twice and a woman did get most votes one time.
... but 10 million less voters though? Trump gets the same turnout but 10 million democrats dgaf anymore?
Pandemic and mail-in participation probably were the biggest factors.
How Democrats lost so many votes in the 2024 presidential race - WTOP News
As ballots continue to be counted from the presidential election around the country, one thing is clear — voting numbers plummeted for Democrats this year compared to 2020.
wtop.com
Numbers analysis -
Anatomy of three Trump elections: How Americans voted in 2024 vs. 2020 and 2016
CNN's exit poll results reveal a divided country.
www.cnn.com
Looks like Harris had far less of the women/minority vote than Clinton or Biden, but yeah. They didn't all just jump ship to Trump.
The genocide thing probably didn't help. Not being as evil isn't as big a vote winner anymore, it seems.
Halloween was over. The Necromancy stopped working (sorry couldn't resist that one) I don't believe the previous election was stolen but the joke was too good to not make.
Man, if only hundreds of thousands of voters tried to warn them about this during the primary! Maybe they could have written like..."I have no commitment towards the current party due to their actions in funding a genocide" or something like that.
But I guess that's why they say Hindsight is 20/20. No one could have possibly predicted this.
You're optimistic that they've learn because of this.
Though, to expand on the above, as well as that, the Democrats aren't promising any of the radical change that it's increasingly obvious the US/world needs. More or the same, maybe slightly better if that, isn't enough. Obama got in by promising hope and chance, Biden got in by promising to be better than Trump, Harris promised more or the same. Which is better than Trump and it would be better for the US/world if she won, but isn't enough.
Oh I have negative optimism that these old farts are gonna learn a thing. They're already doubling down on how voters failed them, they didn't fail voters and that clearly the only reason Harris got her teeth kicked in is she's a black woman. Her campaign was "perfect" so they just do the same thing next time but maybe with Walz or another old white guy as the head cheese instead.
The Democrats are literally the Skinner Meme.
"Am I so out of touch??? No, it's the voters who are wrong..."
I do love me some grousing about the genocide and how Democrats kill children for profit, but while it definitely cost them votes, the biggest drag on them according to exit polls was the economy.
For added comedy though, the centerpiece of Harris' campaign was about how much of a threat to democracy Trump was.
I'm also guessing that touting about how great everything actually is with our economy and all you poors are just too stupid to realize it didn't help very much...