Conflict between Palestine and Israel escalates

Seanchaidh

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Seanchaidh is a communist who does not believe any state has the right to defend itself or even exist, and affords that privilege selectively to America's enemies.
Or to put it another way, peoples have a right to self determination and at their pleasure to liberate themselves from any kind of domination, foreign or domestic.
 
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Or to put it another way, peoples have a right to self determination and at their pleasure to liberate themselves from any kind of domination, foreign or domestic.
Now define the line between a "people" and a "state", while continuing to oppose the existence of Israel and defending China and Russia.
 

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Now define the line between a "people" and a "state", while continuing to oppose the existence of Israel and defending China and Russia.
The territory controlled by the Jewish State in Palestine terror group (JSIP) is solely composed of stolen land, much of it given to these violently racist colonists by a previous colonial government after a campaign of terrorism against both that government and the longstanding residents of the region.

Russia and China are actual places with corresponding peoples, not an ancient set of kingdoms ludicrously co-opted to justify a campaign of ethnic cleansing against to a substantial degree the most direct descendants of those very same ancient kingdoms (both by continual proximity and genetics and apparent care for the land and its history). The Russians and the Chinese and their various subgroups all have a right to self-determination, which includes the right (with the consent of all interested parties) to be Russian or Chinese if they want. This does not mean that the United States has license to perform clandestine operations aimed at fomenting secession or fragmentation: that has nothing to do with self-determination. Obviously.

Violent Jewish colonizers have a right to self-determination, but it does not extend to extinguishing that of the Palestinians; they may self-determine elsewhere or even in Palestine in the event that the Palestinians freely agree. I suggest Bavaria. Or the Moon.
 

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The territory controlled by the Jewish State in Palestine terror group (JSIP) is solely composed of stolen land, much of it given to these violently racist colonists by a previous colonial government after a campaign of terrorism against both that government and the longstanding residents of the region.

Russia and China are actual places with corresponding peoples, not an ancient set of kingdoms ludicrously co-opted to justify a campaign of ethnic cleansing against to a substantial degree the most direct descendants of those very same ancient kingdoms (both by continual proximity and genetics and apparent care for the land and its history). The Russians and the Chinese and their various subgroups all have a right to self-determination, which includes the right (with the consent of all interested parties) to be Russian or Chinese if they want. This does not mean that the United States has license to perform clandestine operations aimed at fomenting secession or fragmentation: that has nothing to do with self-determination. Obviously.

Violent Jewish colonizers have a right to self-determination, but it does not extend to extinguishing that of the Palestinians; they may self-determine elsewhere or even in Palestine in the event that the Palestinians freely agree. I suggest Bavaria. Or the Moon.
I presented you with a question that would be a mistake to answer, that would make you look ridiculous if you took seriously, and you went all in.