Or to put it another way, peoples have a right to self determination and at their pleasure to liberate themselves from any kind of domination, foreign or domestic.
Conflict between Palestine and Israel escalates
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Now define the line between a "people" and a "state", while continuing to oppose the existence of Israel and defending China and Russia.
The territory controlled by the Jewish State in Palestine terror group (JSIP) is solely composed of stolen land, much of it given to these violently racist colonists by a previous colonial government after a campaign of terrorism against both that government and the longstanding residents of the region.
Russia and China are actual places with corresponding peoples, not an ancient set of kingdoms ludicrously co-opted to justify a campaign of ethnic cleansing against to a substantial degree the most direct descendants of those very same ancient kingdoms (both by continual proximity and genetics and apparent care for the land and its history). The Russians and the Chinese and their various subgroups all have a right to self-determination, which includes the right (with the consent of all interested parties) to be Russian or Chinese if they want. This does not mean that the United States has license to perform clandestine operations aimed at fomenting secession or fragmentation: that has nothing to do with self-determination. Obviously.
Violent Jewish colonizers have a right to self-determination, but it does not extend to extinguishing that of the Palestinians; they may self-determine elsewhere or even in Palestine in the event that the Palestinians freely agree. I suggest Bavaria. Or the Moon.
I presented you with a question that would be a mistake to answer, that would make you look ridiculous if you took seriously, and you went all in.
Foolish Seanchaidh, you fell for the most basic of traps! You...answered a question asked by someone talking to you.
I bet you feel awfully stupid now...
(Also because it's been a while, Fuck Israel and everyone involved in carrying out, ordering, and funding of what they are doing should go straight to Super Hell, completely bypassing regular boring Hell).
I bet you feel awfully stupid now...
(Also because it's been a while, Fuck Israel and everyone involved in carrying out, ordering, and funding of what they are doing should go straight to Super Hell, completely bypassing regular boring Hell).
It's not exactly a surprise that tstorm823 would think speaking in earnest is a weakness. It hardly serves him well. But for all the guff, no one has yet pointed out anything objectionable. Am I supposed to be embarrassed that I don't think Torah is an adequate justification for invading, subjugating, and displacing the indigenous population of Palestine to make a racist settler colony?
Lindsey Graham is the most unlikable person in Washington. Not uniquely sleazy, and plenty do worse damage, but none of them is so unlikable. He's always visibly mad, always whiny, and always ridiculous and stupid. How he got elected without any charm at all, I can't imagine.
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That's cause nobody wants to talk to you. Most of this board just ignores your posts. However, you can rest assured, there are sparingly few who could actively read this line and not laugh in your face:
Cause like, that's just comedy right there.
Do you doubt that Russia and China are places with Russian and Chinese people? Or are you unfamiliar with the history of Zionism and the colony it inflicted on Palestine? Which is it? Or is it a secret third thing?
Russia and China are both enormous countries formed out of myriad cultures, each of them has dozens of local languages across varied territories, where the thing that connects these territories is simply the fact that they were conquered at some point. Both Russia and China are the results of centuries of kingdoms conquering each other, and both continue to push to expand their borders over ever more areas full of people who don't want to be part of them. Taiwan, Tibet, Ukraine, Georgia... how many territories of people have been claimed as part of these two countries just in our lifetimes. Seriously, how many times does Georgia have to reject being under Russian rule? Russia and China have Russian and Chinese people, sure, that's just a descriptive. By no means does that mean they don't have millions (hundreds of millions?) of people of longer established and more vanishing cultures than the Palestinians subject to their rule without any say in it.
Like, holy crap, the suggestion that Russia or China are the product of self-determination by a united people is insane.
People ignore these posts because there are two kinds of people on this political section of the forum
Those that have seen 2024 election is over so they no longer pay attention to politics and everything is The Other Teams fault and those that actually pay attention to what is going on in Israel, in which case we're mostly just going to agree with everything Seanchaidh posts because anyone paying even the smallest amount of attention to what Israel is doing knows Israel is the bad guy here. That's not much of a discussion for us to sit here and talk about how right we are, especially given that all we can do is sit here and watch Israel commit a genocide while the only people with the power to do something about it refuses to.
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This suggests you aren't actually paying attention. To Seanchaidh, that is. You may be paying attention to Israel, you may have a firm and well-formed opinion on the events there, but if you actually paid real attention to his posts, you'd inevitably find out how many of them are just blatant lies. Admittedly, it is less than they used to be now that there's a war on, his spammed tweets in this thread used to be more fake than real, because unlike you, Seanchaidh does not care about what happens there. If Israel bombs playgrounds, he will spam opposition to Israel. If Israel builds schools and hospitals and sends Palestinians blueberry pies, he will spam opposition to Israel. If Israel hands control of it's whole territory to the Palestinians, declares it all Palestine, from the river to the sea, puts all its leaders in prison, and unprecedented peace and prosperity break out in the whole region, but the new Palestinian state maintains Israel's treaties and agreements with the United State, Seanchaidh will then oppose Palestine.
You have an opinion formed around the misdeeds of Israelis. Seanchaidh does not. He is excited to see an ally of the US treated as a villain, to the point where he would rather that the area go up in flames than have peace. You are not like that, you ought to be critical of Seanchaidh's posts, because that same user that condemns Israel will, at the same time, reject the idea that any of the US's adversaries have ever done anything wrong.
This is true; every province in China hates every other province. I could go on and on about the stereotypes all of them have about each other. Southern Chinese immigrants don't even get along with Northern Chinese immigrants that recently came in numbers from China in San Francisco, Seattle, and Boston.
Every single time some dominant Asian power wants a pan-Asian alliance against, usually the US, it's usually an excuse for the country to lord over all other Asian countries.
The only reason
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I think Greta should go back to high school (or get an actual academic education), but wolf crying, and what not. This post is.
Dummy, you defend Russia invading Ukraine. You can underline a lie all you want, you're on record contradicting it.
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