Funny events in anti-woke world

Kwak

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Gee, I wonder why he would do this?


Trump signed the law to require presidential ethics pledges. Now he is exempting himself from it.
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A bipartisan bill to boost transparency and make sure incoming presidents stick to an ethics plan was so uncontroversial that it passed the Senate by a voice vote in 2020. Donald Trump then signed it into law.

But now, after blowing past deadlines to adhere to the law after winning the White House a second time, Trump appears to have excluded himself from those same ethical guidelines.
 

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Are you claiming that no country has ever made any policy that was detrimental to its citizens?
Counties implement things they think are beneficial but they don't purposefully do so.

D'you have anything to contribute other than "nuh-uh"?
First you change the discussion to something it wasn't and then I have to provide quotes showing I was never discussing that.

Then you say i just was like "nuh-uh" when my source provided better arguments than yours and I explained why. Where's this "nuh-uh" at? Remember when you said my source was bias against taxes and all you did was provide your word vs an actual source? Then you completely ignored their good arguments and only focused on the bad ones?
 

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Remember when you said my source was bias against taxes and all you did was provide your word vs an actual source?
This didn't happen. This is what happened:

You provided a source to back up the idea that an unrealised gains tax is bad-- it was a thinktank. You then challenged me to provide one in support.

I provided another thinktank, arguing in support.

You dismissed mine solely on the basis that Wikipedia describes it as "progressive", indicating its biased. You said your own source wasn't biased and mine was.

I then pointed out that Wikipedia describes your source as "right leaning" and "business friendly".

So: we both provided thinktanks. Both of our thinktanks are described by wiki as leaning in a certain direction. And you asked me to provide mine in the first place.

You are now categorically refusing to accept that an equal source has been provided, to satisfy your own request.

Tiresome bollocks.
 

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I know this guy is making fun of people with this mindset, but at this point almost any game can be considered "woke" When these assholes and posers keep crying at the most ridiculous things or find new reasons to hate a game they were never going to play in the first place.

 

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Counties implement things they think are beneficial but they don't purposefully do so.
Yes, which means that if they were to implement the policy that you don't like, it would be because they think it's beneficial.

Something can be detrimental to a certain individual or group of individuals while being of overall beneficial to society.
 

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This didn't happen. This is what happened:

You provided a source to back up the idea that an unrealised gains tax is bad-- it was a thinktank. You then challenged me to provide one in support.

I provided another thinktank, arguing in support.

You dismissed mine solely on the basis that Wikipedia describes it as "progressive", indicating its biased. You said your own source wasn't biased and mine was.

I then pointed out that Wikipedia describes your source as "right leaning" and "business friendly".

So: we both provided thinktanks. Both of our thinktanks are described by wiki as leaning in a certain direction. And you asked me to provide mine in the first place.

You are now categorically refusing to accept that an equal source has been provided, to satisfy your own request.

Tiresome bollocks.
Not quite how that played out. You just said my source was bias just on your word alone. Then you get mad at me when I do and have a source. You eventually provided a source.

Funny how you care more about that than the actual arguments. My source's arguments are better than your source's.

Yes, which means that if they were to implement the policy that you don't like, it would be because they think it's beneficial.

Something can be detrimental to a certain individual or group of individuals while being of overall beneficial to society.
Yes, California is full of those type is policies. Kamala's policy just got repelled because, shocker, it didn't work.
 

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Also, DnD has always been woke.
Ehhh....not really in the ways it's moved recently.

Early D&D did a lot of cribbing from Tolkien and Howard and the like, which I don't think would fall into that camp. As opposed to 4e and later D&D where you end up with things like rebranding orcs because orcs are black people, removing the Hadozee from Spelljammer because they're also apparently black people, changing the lore so that the issue between Corellon and Lolth is essentially transphobia that are a decidedly different track than what came before.
 

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Not quite how that played out. You just said my source was bias just on your word alone.
No: I provided exactly the same source as you did. Wikipedia, citing American newspapers. You're literally here arguing that your own source is insufficient.

Funny how you care more about that than the actual arguments. My source's arguments are better than your source's.
Yet you won't actually make the arguments. You point vaguely at a right-wing thanktank and expect me to sift through the bullshit for you.

If you have a point, make it.
 

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No: I provided exactly the same source as you did. Wikipedia, citing American newspapers. You're literally here arguing that your own source is insufficient.



Yet you won't actually make the arguments. You point vaguely at a right-wing thanktank and expect me to sift through the bullshit for you.

If you have a point, make it.
Yes, after several posts of me saying you simply don't like my source and I'm not taking your opinion as expert tax analysis.

I did...
 

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Yes, after several posts of me saying you simply don't like my source and I'm not taking your opinion as expert tax analysis.
Because frankly, what Wikipedia-- which anyone can edit - says is no more authoritative than me or you or anyone else saying so. There's no need for a source on whether or not a thinktank leans a certain way. All that's needed is basic media comprehension.

You then insisted I provide a source. So I pointed out that Wikipedia said the same thing about the thinktank you cited yourself. And then (the cherry on top!) you complained that I DID provide a source, calling it an "appeal to authority"!

Oh, and by the way, your own words:

If Wikipedia says it, then they probably have a super obvious lean.
:unsure: :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:

Literally the only anti-unrealised gains tax argument you've cited from your thinktank was the notion that US citizens would be disadvantaged. Which isn't even true.
 
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Van of Nazis claim they've no mace seconds before their driver accidentally sprays their front passenger in the face with the mace from his belt as he tried to assumedly conceal it elsewhere lol

 
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So it turned out Pokémon Go was/is part of a CIA funded data collection project, with Keyhole - original company before Niantic - being saved due to Iraq war by the largest donation to date from In-Q-Tel


Consumer Watchdog. Lost In The Cloud: Google And the US Government

https://insidegoogle.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/GOOGGovfinal012411.pdf

Gawker. Pokemon Go Is A Government Surveillance Psyop Conspiracy

https://web.archive.org/web/2016071...nment-surveillance-psyop-conspirac-1783461240

Pando. Oakland emails give another glimpse into the Google-Military-Surveillance Complex

https://web.archive.org/web/2015081.../07/the-google-military-surveillance-complex/

Financial Times. Lunch with the FT: Pokémon Go creator John Hanke

https://www-ft-com.ezp-prod1.hul.harvard.edu/content/596ec790-afe8-11e6-9c37-5787335499a0

Dalton, Craig M. "Sovereigns, spooks, and hackers: An early history of Google geo services and map mashups." Cartographica: The International Journal for Geographic Information and Geovisualization 48.4 (2013): 261-274.

Kilday, Bill. Never lost again: The Google mapping revolution that sparked new industries and augmented our reality. Harper Business, 2018.

Wes’s Blog. My Personal Journey On Google Earth

https://westhierry.blogspot.com/2008/07/my-personal-journey-on-google-earth.html

Intercept. Privacy Scandal Haunts Pokemon Go CEO

https://theintercept.com/2016/08/09/privacy-scandal-haunts-pokemon-gos-ceo/

CJR. Poor coverage of Google’s Street View scandal settlement

https://www.cjr.org/the_audit/misleading_coverage_of_street.php

Guinness World Records. Pokemon Go Catches Five World Records

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/2016/8/pokemon-go-catches-five-world-records-439327

Jakarta Globe. Authorities Concerned of Security Breach as Pokemon Go Takes Over State Palace

https://jakartaglobe.id/news/authorities-concerned-security-breach-pokemon-go-takes-state-palace

Al Jazeera. Pokemon Go ignites debate in the Middle East.

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2016/7/19/pokemon-go-ignites-debate-in-the-middle-east

RFI. Pokemon Go to jail - Frenchman nabbed hunting Pokemon on Indonesian military base.

https://www.rfi.fr/en/asia-pacific/...bbed-hunting-pokemon-indonesian-military-base

CIA Office of Security. Are you At An Agency Facility? Pokemon NO!

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/are you at an agency faci[15210727].pdf

Foreign Policy. The Great Pokemon Go Spy Panic.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/11/29/pokemongo-cia-nsa-intelligence-spying/

Niantic Labs. Building a Large Geospatial Model to Achieve Spatial Intelligence

https://nianticlabs.com/news/largegeospatialmodel
Am wondering, ah nope found a way! Is episode of podcast, description and hopefully working audio file below;

Pokémon Go is more than a worldwide craze that inspired millions to hunt Zigzagoons through smartphone-enabled alternate reality. According to intelligence officials in several countries, it’s also an information security threat. Since the game’s release by game developer Niantic in 2016, people have pondered the potential uses of the data that’s collected by aspiring PokéMasters as they meander outside and scan virtual PokéStops.

Travis, Jake, Julian, and Liv dive into why a children’s game about collecting fighting pets has inspired such paranoia. Including how Niantic’s startup ancestor Keyhole, Inc. was saved from bankruptcy by the CIA, how Niantic’s former parent company Google committed one of the worst data privacy violations in history through the “Wi-Spy” scandal, and Niantic’s recent announcement that Pokemon Go data is being used to produce an artificial intelligence system they call a Large Geospatial Model (LGM).

Gotta Catch ‘Em All! And by “Em All” we mean “massive amounts of data from everyone’s smartphones for undisclosed purposes.”

The owner saying "Keyhole" was a reference to Tom Clancy writing has put more fuel to the fire of a curious feedback loop with popular fictional media influencing newer generations entering into the careers such media worked tirelessly to make look cool, ending up disappointed by reality and either disillusioned from low authority position or empowered in high authority position to force change closer to their expectations themselves.
 
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