Funny events in anti-woke world
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Yet we know for a fact that they can end up paying hundreds. So no, not just the copay.
That's right, they're not paying for it. They're being denied medication they need instead.
8k per year was one estimate for the cost to insurers. The cost to an uninsured individual, or one whose insurance does not cover Ozempic (so 20% of insurers for diabetes, and 50+% of insurers for obesity) can reach over 1k per month.
I really have zero interest in your amateur opinions on healthcare. Need should be determined by medical experts. Currently it is dictated instead by businessmen with a profit motive to overcharge (manufacturers) and to deny coverage (insurers).
No, only someone with zero comprehension of pricing structures and business margins would think this.
For some...
Insurers don't pay 8k/year, that's my point. I asked you who's actually paying that. What uninsured individual or individual whose insurance doesn't cover it has the money to pay for ozempic? It's a very very very small fraction of people paying 8k/year for ozempic in the US.
Objectively, nobody needs ozempic besides for a short time (outside of very rare exceptions that I'm sure exist). That's just a fact.
You don't seem to understand like no one is actually paying 8k/year for ozempic still...
Co-President Elon Musk's mother recently decided to tell everyone to have children and not worry about the cost, as you can just do things like not go to the movies or out for dinner and you'll be able to afford parenthood just fine.
www.independent.co.uk
I mean she's so out of touch that she thinks her son is "the genius of the world" and not a rampaging manbaby edgelord who buys companies and pretends he's the reason they ever succeeded.
Elon Musk’s mom says people should have children even if they can’t afford them
‘You don’t have to go to the movies, you don’t have to go out for dinner,’ Musk said
www.independent.co.uk
I mean she's so out of touch that she thinks her son is "the genius of the world" and not a rampaging manbaby edgelord who buys companies and pretends he's the reason they ever succeeded.
As a person who has kids and is middle class.... we went out to dinner once this year.... without the kids. I don't know how that's going to cover the cost of a third kidCo-President Elon Musk's mother recently decided to tell everyone to have children and not worry about the cost, as you can just do things like not go to the movies or out for dinner and you'll be able to afford parenthood just fine.
Elon Musk’s mom says people should have children even if they can’t afford them
‘You don’t have to go to the movies, you don’t have to go out for dinner,’ Musk said
I mean she's so out of touch that she thinks her son is "the genius of the world" and not a rampaging manbaby edgelord who buys companies and pretends he's the reason they ever succeeded.
Also, this is advice for all parents, now or in the future. NEVER GET OUTNUMBERED.
Funny isn't the right word since the affair is just terrible, but the far right trying to abuse it for their own ends seems to hit a roadblock. Yesterday there was a terrorist attack in Germany and the usual suspects(including Elon) were soon to gloat about ''religious of peace'' to try and profit from the attack. But it turns out that while the terrorist is indeed an Arab he's actually an AFD supporter, as well as a fan of Musk and Geert Wilders.
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A parent overselling their offspring? What a chocker.
Am probably showing my ass here as the only freak who's aware of these people, let alone a parody song about them lol
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They'll continue as if it weren't the case anyway, facts are for loser nerd woke commies. How long were they still claiming the olympic cis lady boxer was trans even after it came out otherwise? Last I saw JK Rowling was straight up ploughing on through as if nothing further was clarified and she was totes right the first time.
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Yes?
Dude, if someone doesn't pay it because they can't afford it, and ends up just not getting the medicine, then that person is being blocked by the prohibitive cost. Those who can't afford it are my primary concern.
Once again: I have zero respect for your amateur healthcare opinions. Need should be determined by medical professionals.
Fun fact, I'm working on losing weight through diet and exercise, with...some success. I'm not going to lie, a large chunk of the issue is simply willpower. I bring this up because guess what was one of my primary care doctor's suggestions to lose weight, other than simple diet and exercise? But hey, I guess he doesn't know anything, being a doctor and all.
ETA: To be clear, he wasn't suggesting Ozempic specifically. His suggestion was apparently some sort of injection that curbs cravings or something like that. I'm not a doctor, or a chemist, and I have enough awareness to know that I don't know anything beyond that.
ETA: To be clear, he wasn't suggesting Ozempic specifically. His suggestion was apparently some sort of injection that curbs cravings or something like that. I'm not a doctor, or a chemist, and I have enough awareness to know that I don't know anything beyond that.
We're talking about how much the drug actually costs and how much Novo Nordisk is making off of it.
Medical professionals aren't as "professional" as you think they are. All the people I personally know that have been on ozempic have had horrible side effects, one that is finally off of it because he just had bariactric surgery this Tuesday had to go the hospital numerous times over side effects from ozempic. Several nights his stomach hurt so much he couldn't sleep as well. There's no way I would ever take ozempic in my life. My mom's doctor told her to not eat arguably the healthiest food; eggs.
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I'm not on Ozempic or anything like that but I am on a weird little drug that is for addiction use (as my Nutrition Doctor says, it "tickles your brains happy place so it helps you not need things like alcohol to tickle your brains happy place").
It's amazing how much easier it has made it for me to lose weight. I still want candy and other junk but I don't (sometimes literally) pace around like a drug addict coming down from a high, desperate for my next hit anymore.
It would be great if people could just stop having sweets but I imagine many are like me where their brain chemistry is just kind of...off and it's more like an addiction rather than just willpower.
(it's called Naltrexone if you're curious about it)
I'm not entirely sure I agree with your doctor's description. Your doctor's description might fit better drugs like acamprosate (alcohol), bupropion or varenicline (nicotine); naltrexone primarily works by stopping things tickling your brain's "happy place" rather than tickling it itself.
You know...maybe that is what she said and I misheard/misremembered what she said
Cause I've found that while I do still greatly enjoy candy and sweets when I get them, I've gone to the store before with "permission" from myself to get candy and just...didn't (something that would have been unthinkable to me months ago before I started on it).
All I know is I am very happy with the results of this stuff. It doesn't have the risks/side effects/need to stab myself with a needle like the other drugs and it is relatively cheap at $60 for a month long amount (unfortunately it is not covered by insurance and is actually made at a compound pharmacy cause I guess this isn't exactly something you can just get in pill form like many other standard pharmacy drugs).
As I said previously (I think just a few posts back), nothing wrong with using something to help curb the carb/sugar/processed grains addiction if you can't do it on willpower alone. Once you get over that, which should only take a few weeks to a month really, then you really shouldn't need anything. I used to be just starving at lunch time and have a rather large lunch, then I'd be starving when I got home (and eat a bunch of snacks), then eat dinner a few hours later. There was this one time at my old job (about 10 years old at this point) where they changed our lunch time from noon to 12:30 and so many of us were just starving because we all got used to eating at that time. We looked up the law on lunches even and got the time put back because the law says (in Illinois at least, not sure if federal or state law) that you must get a lunch break within 5 hours of starting work (we started at 7am). With all that said, I now skip lunch (and breakfast) basically everyday. On Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, I don't even eat anything until after 9pm when I go out to dinner with friends (after we play board games). Today, I was just chilling at home all day and all I had was some leftovers basically; I had a banana, I had a leftover slice of chocolate cream pie (from Round the Clock on Wednesday as like everything comes with a dessert), and I had a leftover chili from Culvers that I got Thursday. I can go all day without really getting hungry at all and I legit don't even think about food until 2/3pm at the very earliest of any given day. Once you break that cycle of a bad diet, it is rather easy, it's the breaking it that is the hard part. And if I told past-me this just a few years ago, I would've called bullshit on the whole "not being hungry" talk that I'm currently saying.
You really just have to eat real foods and so many things just fixed themselves. I have the occasional treat like that chocolate cream pie or about once a week I go to Culvers when they have a favorite flavor of the day custard or at a party I kinda don't care what I eat. Outside of those occasional cheats, I just eat actual foods and I eat out for like every meal because I'm not a good cook at all, the myth that you can't eat healthy when eating out is a myth. For example, at Five Guys, I get the burger, ask for a cup for water, and eat the free peanuts as my side; the only unhealthy thing in that meal is the bun and most of the condiments (but you don't have to be perfect either). Most standard fast food places that have basically nothing healthy to eat like McDonalds or Taco Bell or Burger King, I simply don't go to and don't consider them restaurants because they don't sell food IMO. I'll go to a legit Mexican place if I want Mexican and I literally walk in, order a carry-out (not even calling in), and I have my food in 5 mins; that's faster than Taco Bell, I really don't understand how Taco Bell exists honestly when there's so many real Mexican restaurants. I haven't ordered any fried foods (not even fries) in probably 3 years. You just gotta tell yourself certain things aren't food anymore and just don't eat them outside of rare occasions.
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Social Security won't survive. Period. Eventually, it will fall; there's too much money going against it. The millennials will be lucky to get half of it, and we Gen Z a quarter of our monthly checks. All you need is some billionaire giving money to a few swing congressional members who will agree to lose office in exchange for some cushy after-office lobbyist gig and it will die.
"Willpower" isn't as simple as people make it out to be. I don't know your situation, but I know that my own "willpower" is getting over being alone and depressed, and having almost zero hope for my future, and in that situation cutting off one of few things that gives you some modicum of enjoyment is rather torturous to put it lightly. Also, your brain tends to be the devil on your shoulder, and it's pretty fucking hard to fight your own mind once it's gotten a taste for it.
Good luck though.
Seconding this. "Willpower" is just another way of blaming people for things.