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Now? This is neither new, nor exceptional. The wealthy have always owned the politicians, assuming they weren't one and the same of course.

The only notable difference is Musk is an edgy manchild, so it loudly shitposts it for all to see.
Yeah, just... the flagrancy.

Maybe one day...

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Or just the copay like any other drug.
Yet we know for a fact that they can end up paying hundreds. So no, not just the copay.

But the people that can't afford are not paying for it obviously. My point is who is paying the prices you claimed that ozempic cost (8k/year)? It's really just probably state insurers that can't negotiate and the few people rich enough to afford it where their insurance doesn't cover it.
That's right, they're not paying for it. They're being denied medication they need instead.

8k per year was one estimate for the cost to insurers. The cost to an uninsured individual, or one whose insurance does not cover Ozempic (so 20% of insurers for diabetes, and 50+% of insurers for obesity) can reach over 1k per month.

They are pushing for ozempic to be used long-term, which doesn't make sense when you can simply eat properly. If anything, ozempic should just be used as a tool to help people eat properly as it could be used to get people off the cycle of carb addiction easier and make those first few weeks to a month of a healthy diet a lot easier by requiring a lot less willpower. The same thing is essentially true for diabetes but that would be a longer period of use. Long-term use of ozempic really makes no sense for either weight loss or diabetes. Part of the horrible healthcare system in the US is treating symptoms with drugs vs actually going after the root cause and fixing that. That would result in healthcare being cheaper for everyone.
I really have zero interest in your amateur opinions on healthcare. Need should be determined by medical experts. Currently it is dictated instead by businessmen with a profit motive to overcharge (manufacturers) and to deny coverage (insurers).

But like no one is paying the prices for ozempic that you claimed they were. If they were, then their profit margin would be much higher.
No, only someone with zero comprehension of pricing structures and business margins would think this.
 

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Yet we know for a fact that they can end up paying hundreds. So no, not just the copay.



That's right, they're not paying for it. They're being denied medication they need instead.

8k per year was one estimate for the cost to insurers. The cost to an uninsured individual, or one whose insurance does not cover Ozempic (so 20% of insurers for diabetes, and 50+% of insurers for obesity) can reach over 1k per month.



I really have zero interest in your amateur opinions on healthcare. Need should be determined by medical experts. Currently it is dictated instead by businessmen with a profit motive to overcharge (manufacturers) and to deny coverage (insurers).



No, only someone with zero comprehension of pricing structures and business margins would think this.
For some...

Insurers don't pay 8k/year, that's my point. I asked you who's actually paying that. What uninsured individual or individual whose insurance doesn't cover it has the money to pay for ozempic? It's a very very very small fraction of people paying 8k/year for ozempic in the US.

Objectively, nobody needs ozempic besides for a short time (outside of very rare exceptions that I'm sure exist). That's just a fact.

You don't seem to understand like no one is actually paying 8k/year for ozempic still...
 

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Co-President Elon Musk's mother recently decided to tell everyone to have children and not worry about the cost, as you can just do things like not go to the movies or out for dinner and you'll be able to afford parenthood just fine.




I mean she's so out of touch that she thinks her son is "the genius of the world" and not a rampaging manbaby edgelord who buys companies and pretends he's the reason they ever succeeded.
 
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Co-President Elon Musk's mother recently decided to tell everyone to have children and not worry about the cost, as you can just do things like not go to the movies or out for dinner and you'll be able to afford parenthood just fine.




I mean she's so out of touch that she thinks her son is "the genius of the world" and not a rampaging manbaby edgelord who buys companies and pretends he's the reason they ever succeeded.
As a person who has kids and is middle class.... we went out to dinner once this year.... without the kids. I don't know how that's going to cover the cost of a third kid

Also, this is advice for all parents, now or in the future. NEVER GET OUTNUMBERED.
 
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As a person who has kids and is middle class.... we went out to dinner once this year.... without the kids. I don't know how that's going to cover the cost of a third kid

Also, this is advice for all parents, now or in the future. NEVER GET OUTNUMBERED.
I had two at once, I’m already dead xD
 

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Funny isn't the right word since the affair is just terrible, but the far right trying to abuse it for their own ends seems to hit a roadblock. Yesterday there was a terrorist attack in Germany and the usual suspects(including Elon) were soon to gloat about ''religious of peace'' to try and profit from the attack. But it turns out that while the terrorist is indeed an Arab he's actually an AFD supporter, as well as a fan of Musk and Geert Wilders.

Oops.