America is a country of 334 million people. The occupiers of Palestine have less than 10 million. In any case, 2000 and 500 pound bombs don't grow on olive trees.
US 2024 Presidential Election
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I've already explained my perspective on the chain of events. Netanyahu was holding out in the hope that Trump would renegotiate more favourably to Israel. When it became clear that he wouldn't, Netanyahu took the existing offer.
He would have agreed (probably a bit earlier, on the same terms) had there not been an upcoming American election at all.
Dude, there's only so many times I can repeat that the Democrats' approach on this is repugnant and unacceptable. I've said so over and over again. I'm giving them no more credit than I'm giving Trump, because they've both done exactly the same fucking things with the same fucking terms.
Fail to see the relevance of this to the central point i made. As if a smaller occupying power somehow only has interest in military capacity for immediate needs, even if the opportunity exists to hoard it and get it cheaply.
Then maybe I'm the weirdo because I do not understand how anyone could possibly support Biden and The Democrats after it has become so clear that they could have stopped the genocide at any point and they actively chose not to (since again, this is the same exact deal Biden gave them in July). All it took was Trump putting the screws even just a little bit to Israel to get them to break (because they had zero leverage, it was all America giving and Israel taking) and Biden wouldn't even do the bare minimum to stop Israel from their genocide.
All the news sources have stated that Israel got the screws tightened at them by Trump. I thought plugging your ears and screaming FAKE NEWS!!!!! was supposed to be the MAGA thing but I suppose that's why we call you guys Blue MAGA. You do the same exact damn thing when the news sources make your party look like shit (or gives The Other Team credit for something good).
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Depends what you mean by "support". Support him in what? I'm certainly not supporting his approach to Gaza.
Well, as I've said, i don't believe that's what happened. That's party spin, like Biden now trying to take credit.
And I thought uncritically absorbing the media narrative was a neolib/apolitical thing, but here we are. Turns out people of all political persuasions are susceptible to falling into poor thinking patterns when they reinforce what they already thought.
Got it, everyone is lying to make Biden look bad. It can't possibly be that Trump did something, everyone is just against Biden and wants to make him look bad.
FAKE NEWS!!!! WITCH HUNT!!!! OPEN YOUR EYES SHEEPLE!!!!!!! TAKE THE HORSE DEWORMER TO WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, the Republican Party machine is lying to make Trump look good. That's all. Its their job, just as the Democratic Party machine frequently lies to make Biden look good. But on this, you're credulously believing the spin from one of 'em rather than applying scepticism to both.
Yes yes, it's all FAKE NEWS. All the reports coming from Israel and Bibi are also lying. It's all spin to make The Republicans look good and Democrats look bad. FAKE NEWS!
Point of order, has Trump's inauguration actually taken place yet? Because I'm not sure how he's turning any screws other than doing the old Hollywood tactic of negotiating in the press by broadcasting far and wide what he intends to do when in office. And the Israeli government, like any sensible government, will take that seriously and act accordingly.
Of course if the inauguration has been and gone and I missed it, that question is irrelevant.
Because as the President Elect, he has absolutely zero power and is unable to negotiate at all and no world leaders will take anything he says seriously because he's just a private citizen and isn't about to become one of the most powerful people in the country...
I'm sorry it turns out that your boy Biden is a fucking monster but you all don't have to keep defending him and his bloodlust for Palestinian lives...
If these events haven't convinced you that Biden and The Democrats are absolute Evil with a Capital E, then I'm not sure what they could possibly do to convince you (and because so many of you get confused if I don't say this as well every time, Republicans are also absolute Evil with a Capital E. This is just a case showing Biden and Democrats are the Evil this time).
I just wanted to clarify who was still ostensibly in charge and in active negotiations with the Israelis. I'm aware the President-Elect is not without power but they can't ratify anything until they take the oath. So yeah, he negotiated in the press. Worked too.
No because the Department of Health wasn't giving that kind of inane and stupid advice.
My guy's name is Anthony Albanese, might want to double check that location tag my man.
What have we actually heard from Israel and Netanyahu on this? All I've seen so far is the comment from that Likud media stand-in.
Its capacity to generate wealth in general and military resources in particular is a great deal less than the so far most powerful empire in world history.
If you make each province a state, but all of Canada has barely more people than California, you could make bigger pieces if you really wanted to.
Which is why the Philippines form several states of the US right now and Cuba is another one, right ? And no one talks about Puerto Ricans as if they were another nationality, correct ?
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OK. Yet still huge.
So to be clear, are you genuinely arguing that a country like Israel would have no interest in maintaining or increasing military capability beyond its immediate requirements? And that, given an opportunity to carry out its operations with less cost to itself, it wouldn't take it if not absolutely required?
Jan 20th. The term of a POTUS ends at noon on January 20th of the appropriate year, at which point their successor takes over. Barring some emergency scenario where the order of succession kicks in and someone becomes POTUS outside the normal schedule because something happened to the current one.
That's people from Mexico who've chosen to go to the US, not people in Mexico when the US annexes it.
Well, it remains to be seen if this ceasefire sticks, and how important Trump was. But Biden could have tried doing something. Or, actually, if he'd done nothing, if he'd not increased the amount of weapons and money the US were giving to Israel while the latter was committing genocide, that'd be an improvement.