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That and they started Putin's reign by bombing their own citizen to boost his reputation.
There was a lawful mechanism for changing a constitution and it was executed by the Duma.
Just as a reminder, everything Hitler did to get into power was also completely lawful and constitutional.
Plenty of people view society as a collection of group fighting over spoil. If strong leader belong to what they perceive as being their group, they think their group has a bigger share of the spoil. They can't understand that the spoil can grow, and you can be in a situation where your group share of the spoil get smaller as a percentage, but in absolute number it gets bigger.
Democracy would, more or less, lead to spoil being shared equally, strong leader means that the spoil can go preferentially to one group (the leader group). So they prefer a strong leader, so they can potentially get some of that spoil.
On topic, the peace plan is ultimately not about what happens to Ukraine, but how the Russian can get the US to lift sanction (I'm guessing the master negotiator will manage to win nothing at all). So from their point of view, Ukraine and Europe have nothing to do with this. Once the US is out, Putin will probably try to have another peace deal with the EU, and once everyone backs out, he can just rebuilt his army to finish taking over Ukraine in a few year.
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Trump says Ukraine 'should have never started it' in comments about war with Russia
Trump made the remark while deriding Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, whose country was invaded by Russia in February 2022.
Bullies always blame the victims.Trump says Ukraine 'should have never started it' in comments about war with Russia
Trump made the remark while deriding Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, whose country was invaded by Russia in February 2022.www.nbcnews.com
One thing I hope is that Trump's betrayal sabotages the chances of the far right in Europe. With Trump's betrayal being either inevitable or already in full effect European security is one again an important topic in Europe. The threat of a Russian invasion is all to real, and the chance of the US either letting it happen or outright supporting Russia is likely and at least somewhat possible respectively.
Russia as the big enemy has an opportunity. Because the far right gains support for their anti migrant stance, and not from their pro Russia stance. Migration dominated the last several election as a topic which plays to their strength, but European security(and politicians just like them plotting to do us harm) plays to their weakness.
Germany should be an interesting case study. Its well known the AFD is deeply in bed with Putin and president Musk, so we'll see how the electorate responds to the AFD being so closely aligned to Germany's enemies. Maybe they'll still think brown people are the bigger problem, or maybe they'll be spooked into a pro European course
Its actually not hard for parties and governments to steer political discourse a certain way if they want to. Case in point the Dutch election where despite all the well known and passionately debated problems we face, the VVD manufactured a migrant crisis out of whole cloth to get themselves(but also accidentally Wilders) to win the election. No reason they can't similarly shift discourse to our very safety being under threat.
Russia as the big enemy has an opportunity. Because the far right gains support for their anti migrant stance, and not from their pro Russia stance. Migration dominated the last several election as a topic which plays to their strength, but European security(and politicians just like them plotting to do us harm) plays to their weakness.
Germany should be an interesting case study. Its well known the AFD is deeply in bed with Putin and president Musk, so we'll see how the electorate responds to the AFD being so closely aligned to Germany's enemies. Maybe they'll still think brown people are the bigger problem, or maybe they'll be spooked into a pro European course
Its actually not hard for parties and governments to steer political discourse a certain way if they want to. Case in point the Dutch election where despite all the well known and passionately debated problems we face, the VVD manufactured a migrant crisis out of whole cloth to get themselves(but also accidentally Wilders) to win the election. No reason they can't similarly shift discourse to our very safety being under threat.
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I have never seen so many experts and politicians on proper news channels or newspapers declare the end of NATO before. And no one seems to contradict them much.
The alliance is done for.
The alliance is done for.
Good on you, Mr. Pence.
We broke neutrality, sucked up to Erdogan and changed our constitution for nothing?
From the "Every Accusation a Confession" department:
www.bbc.com
How long before Trump sends troops to invade Ukraine to defend poor, helpless Russia from its horrific belligerent neighbor?
Trump calls Zelensky 'dictator' as rift between two leaders deepens
The comments come as the latest salvo in a public war of words between the US and Ukrainian leaders.
www.bbc.com
How long before Trump sends troops to invade Ukraine to defend poor, helpless Russia from its horrific belligerent neighbor?
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Edit: Also he attacked the concept of manned fighter jets before.
It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be its friend is fatal.
Zelensky's participation would not constitute "input from Ukraine", since his term is expired-- to say nothing of any other problems with treating Ukraine's head of state as representative of organic Ukrainian political opinion in a country with strict censorship and lots of influence from foreign governments (including funding of the mainstream media). So to start with, if input from Ukraine (or at least the Ukrainian national bourgeoisie) is indeed a priority, Ukraine should elect or reelect its leaders.
Is it actually tighter or is it merely less sophisticated (i.e. power actually resides in the head of state/head of government moreso than blocs of economic elites, where in our countries it is the reverse) and more justifiably paranoid of foreign interference?
That opponent had been charged with treason for apparently asking one of your country's intelligence agencies for weapons to overthrow his government. If true, that goes a little beyond political disagreement. The murder part is speculative. Do you normally call prisons slave labor camps? Not inaccurate in a lot of places, including that one I'll assume without investigation, but a bit telling if you reserve that language for targets of your own regime's hostility.
I don't think Poland was acting as a proxy for Germany or the USSR in that scenario, nor do I think the United States is going to follow up with Operation Barbarossa 2: Electric Boogaloo. But who knows? Maybe if you demonize Russia enough you can help get us all splattered in nuclear blast waves. Wouldn't that be fun? For about a microsecond.
Ukraine-Krieg: Europa in Angst! Geheimdienste fürchten schon US-Abzug
Panik über die amerikanisch-russischen Verhandlungen in Europa! Die Sicherheitslage würde sich nach einem Abzug der US-Truppen komplett ändern.
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Are you still certain the US would defend you against Russia instead of Trump finding reasons everything is your fault and thus you don't deserve support?
There will obviously still be "a" NATO-like allience with focus on Russia but not with the US.
Neither was Ukraine. Remember this was all about a trade deal until Putin forced Ukraine's president to be HIS proxy, then invaded the country when the public didn't want to get sucked into the economic, political, social and cultural dead end that is Putin's Russia. At that point cozying up with the west was the only alternative to the occupation and slaughter the Russians would bring.
And while the US wouldn't start Operation Barbaross 2 Electric Boogaloo, the Russians likely would try to violantly expand even further.
Also what's the nonsense about demonization? A hellhole country ruled by spychotic robber barons that invades its neighbors purely for the ''glory'' of empire needs no additional ''demonization'' to come across as the most violent, and backwards nation imaginable.