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What immigrants has Trump demonized that Obama didn't? How has Trump cozied up to dictators? What history has Trump censored? What rights has any group lost? The other side keeps criticizing Trump as being corrupt yet has no proof of his corruptness, a NY DA even campaigned specifically saying should would go after Trump and then made up a new way to get a felony conviction that has never been done in the history of law.
What the fuck? Are you even paying attention to what he's doing at all? Literally everything he's been doing. Holy shit, the fucking proud ignorance you display is infuriating.
 
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What the fuck? Are you even paying attention to what he's doing at all? Literally everything he's been doing. Holy shit, the fucking proud ignorance you display is infuriating.
Projection...
 

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What the fuck? Are you even paying attention to what he's doing at all? Literally everything he's been doing. Holy shit, the fucking proud ignorance you display is infuriating.
I may draw your attention to the ignore feature. You are very unlikely to learn from such a person, and the mere truth of things isn't going to sway them.
 

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you got your tiktok conspiracies, your squid games, your creepy fake "wellness centres", you got your kidnappings, your hunting and killing the poor/homeless/disabled children, your child abuses, your scams, even your political n police corruption. all in one south Korean historical case. truly fascinating/disturbing stuff (audio only, podcast episode: hm- best format for doing other shit too)


After a viral Tik Tok conspiracy claimed there was a “true story” behind the hit series “Squid Game,” Jake goes down the rabbit hole to try to separate fact from fiction. The Tik Tok people were very wrong, and what we discover instead is far more horrific. Julian and Brad are forced to cope as Jake tells the devastating story of “Brother’s Home”, an 80s era South Korean so-called ‘Wellness Center’ that turns out to be anything but.

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to further understand context around Korean war and Americas involvement in shaping and directing the horror;


A new season, a new story: The Korean War.
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A pocket-sized history of the Korean peninsula, the upstart US and Japanese empires, and World War II.
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After a flash of hope post-WWII Korea is divided into North and South.
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The war before the war on a self-reliant island off South Korea.

With a rightwing, US-backed klepto-case to his South, Kim Il-Sung bets the house.

Gen. MacArthur executes his revenge.

The US threatens to cross the Yalu. The Chinese leadership debates its options in Korea.

President Truman and his “Big General in the Far East” enter their final standoff over the war.

Stalemate on the battlefield does not stop the United States from obliterating North Korea.

The armistice in Korea is supposed to be temporary. But a peace treaty never comes. As decades roll on, the war becomes permanent.
there's your fucking "patriotism" and "exceptionalism" in all its endless glory
 
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What the fuck? Are you even paying attention to what he's doing at all? Literally everything he's been doing. Holy shit, the fucking proud ignorance you display is infuriating.
You all just keep saying dictator and fascist without any examples acting like merely saying such things make it true. Also, people online acting like they are living in a fascist regime and fighting fascism is fucking hilarious.

Funny how I keep asking the same question and no one will answer it. So after the plane kerfuffle with the judge's order and the immigrants, has Trump/ICE been continuing to ignore the order? Surely, a fascist and dictator would continue to ignore that order.
 

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Also, people online acting like they are living in a fascist regime and fighting fascism is fucking hilarious.
Numerous people without any criminal record, or even charge, have been deported to an El Salvadorian camp for a year of hard labour. Legal residents have been detained or arrested for protesting, or voicing opinions the administration doesn't like. These things have happened with the very loud and explicit endorsement of the President.

You are unconcerned because these things don't affect you personally, which seems to be your sole barometer for whether something is bad or not. But not everyone is quite so myopic, and some are capable of empathising with the suffering of others.
 
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Numerous people without any criminal record, or even charge, have been deported to an El Salvadorian camp for a year of hard labour. Legal residents have been detained or arrested for protesting, or voicing opinions the administration doesn't like. These things have happened with the very loud and explicit endorsement of the President.

You are unconcerned because these things don't affect you personally, which seems to be your sole barometer for whether something is bad or not. But not everyone is quite so myopic, and some are capable of empathising with the suffering of others.
Sources? I've only seen one legal resident arrested/detained that shouldn't have been. I provided you with the same thing that happened under Biden and you didn't care. Coincidentally Matt Taibbi got an IRS visit right after being critical of the Biden administration and you didn't care. You act like these things only have happened under Trump, it's just that you don't care when it happens under other administrations. I said the one guy at the college being detained is bad but I'm not gonna call Trump a fascist and dictator when the same thing happens under other administrations, unless we are calling them all dictators and fascists. At least be consistent is all I ask.
 

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Sources? I've only seen one legal resident arrested/detained that shouldn't have been.
Two German tourists and two Germans with permanent legal residence were detained for weeks.

Canadian actor detained for 12 days.

French scientist denied entry because border agents searched his phone and found messages critical of Trump.

I provided you with the same thing that happened under Biden and you didn't care.
Because it wasn't the same thing, as was pointed out at the time.

Is flimsy whataboutism all you got then?
 
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Yeah, it wasn't the same thing, it was an actual US citizen, it was even worse.

That stuff is pretty bad and definitely needs to get fixed. However, doesn't a fascist or dictator have to be fascist and authoritative to their own citizens?
 

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Yeah, it wasn't the same thing, it was an actual US citizen, it was even worse.
So... someone being improperly detained & handcuffed for a few minutes after being pulled over for speeding/reckless driving. That's worse in your book than arresting and detaining someone for two weeks without any suspicion of a crime whatsoever, just because the former is a US citizen, even though the latter is a legal permanent resident? You're gonna have to run by me how that works.

That stuff is pretty bad and definitely needs to get fixed. However, doesn't a fascist or dictator have to be fascist and authoritative to their own citizens?
Well, I tend to avoid the term "fascist", because that term (to me as an H.E. student of history) refers to a specific group of inter-war European ultranationalist movements. "Authoritarian" is the term I'd use: a political figure who uses legal or extrajudicial powers to suppress dissent, and to force their agenda through the political system, bypassing (or destroying) intended checks and balances.

But for what it's worth, I think it's pretty pathetic to try to exclude repressive actions like those I cited just because they weren't US citizens. Initially you indicated that ICE only targets illegal immigrants, then I provided evidence that wasn't the case; then you said you'd only heard about a single legal resident being targeted, and I provided multiple examples. Every time, it's just met with shifted goalposts, whataboutism, and excuses.
 
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