Funny events in anti-woke world

[Phoenixmgs]

You mean things like Trump's kids meeting with Russian envoy's, his quickly fired security chief having undue contacts with the Russians, several jailed cronies and Trump ''joking'' on tv Russia should go hack his rival which they'd indeed go and do?

The idea that there was simply nothing to investigate in terms of Trump's ties to Russia is simply not accurate. Which as in all the other examples is Trump's own fault.

Durham report massively disagrees with you.

OK? But we're not talking about deportation, and what you said doesn't even have anything to do with what protections someone is entitled to.



A story that investigative reporters or journalists could chase, if they wanted. Average reporters don't chase leads and theories. They report on available information.



You've been given situations in which Republicans have endorsed and celebrated the arbitrary detainment of people for 2 weeks without charge. And Republicans celebrating the arrest and detainment of people for protesting. And you've just sat here insisting that the Dems being in power when 1 guy was held for 1 night, after being caught on camera trespassing, is worse.

So, stuff that any rational, thinking adult would accept has been provided.

I just pointed out it's more likely for a non-citizen to get detained by mistake.

So an average reporter decided to just report on a massive nothing burger of a story? Was the reporter in the car behind Machado or something because there's really no reason for this to have been a story by a normal reporter just reporting on something that happened.

What stories about republicans celebrating people for being arrested for protesting? You just linked articles about people being detained for immigration issues. And dems went after political opponents, literally the AG of NYC ran a campaign about going after Trump. The dems went after Matt Taibbi as previously mentioned.

New Report Details Alarming IRS Civil Liberties Abuses

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, the House Judiciary Committee and its Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government released an interim staff report titled, “

judiciary.house.gov

 

[BrawlMan]

United workers union announced for u s a & canada.

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[Silvanus]

I just pointed out it's more likely for a non-citizen to get detained by mistake.

That's right. And I pointed out how irrelevant that is.

So an average reporter decided to just report on a massive nothing burger of a story?

No; a reporter decided to report on something noteworthy happening regarding a public figure, as reporters do every single day. You consider it a nothingburger in part because you were never going to care.

What stories about republicans celebrating people for being arrested for protesting? You just linked articles about people being detained for immigration issues.

I didn't, though, did I? They weren't "immigration issues". They were perfectly legal residents detained.

And both Homan and Trump took to social media to talk about how great this was and how it was just the beginning. These things have already been posted more than once, and you've ignored them.

 

[Schadrach]

Far-Right Influencers Are Hosting a $10K-per-Person Matchmaking Weekend to Repopulate the Earth

The Natal Conference, which costs up to $10,000 to attend, features multiple matchmaking strategy sessions and onsite ministers so attendees can get married, WIRED has learned.

www.wired.com

Attendees are instructed to register to learn the exact venue (though it is listed elsewhere on the website)

This is a safety measure that's been a thing at least since the first ICMI had to have a last minute change-of-venue because people had threatened the guests, staff, and facilities of the hotel it was originally going to be at. Followed in relatively short order by bomb threats happening to a Milo Yi-whatever fan meetup in DC. Basically any gathering that expects progressives or similar to be angry with them does this as a protective measure. It's easier to keep the location (mostly) secret until it's too late to stop it than deal with the fallout of the venue being threatened with violence for daring to host you.

The whole idea is to keep the actual location confidential until it's too late to do anything about it. For example, ICMI made the city (and sometimes general region of the city) available, but not the actual venue. So that you know generally where to look for flights to and hotels at, but not enough to know who to threaten over hosting it. Nobody is going to threaten (for example) every venue that could hypothetically host a medium-size event in Chicago.

The article was posted 3/28, so the address of the currently ongoing event being available on the website at that point is not surprising, because it's no longer a security risk to make it available.

...spending 6 minutes talking about how what he did is definitely not doxing, despite being the same kind of thing that would be considered definitely doxing if it was done to the "wrong" sort of target as opposed to someone like Grummz.

 

[Hades]

Le Pen has responded to her trial and as usual its the whole ''woe is me!'' spiel. Going on about how its a witch hunt and how ''unfair'' this is to their voters. Not a single acknowledgment that maybe she shouldn't have done fraud with EU funds.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

All your ideas is so divorced from reality, I'm suprised you even heard of the word truth

Is your definition of turth like Truth Social, where the word truth here just means lie?

The idea that there was simply nothing to investigate in terms of Trump's ties to Russia is simply not accurate. Which as in all the other examples is Trump's own fault.

Convenient news story about RussiaGate just today. IT WAS ALL A MASSIVE LIE.

Let's first of all recall that this entire thing was a scam. The collusion aspect was a scam. We know that now Hillary Clinton's campaign paid Christopher Steels to come up with this ludicrous dossier of conspiracy theories about Trump and Russia. No one takes that seriously anymore people who defend that aspect of the probes still want to cling to other claims to argue that this was credible. The whole thing was a farce including the allegations of Russian meddling which also comes from the Clinton campaign as well this allegation that Russia hacked the DNC and gave the emails to WikiLeaks and launched a massive social media campaign.

That's right. And I pointed out how irrelevant that is.



No; a reporter decided to report on something noteworthy happening regarding a public figure, as reporters do every single day. You consider it a nothingburger in part because you were never going to care.



I didn't, though, did I? They weren't "immigration issues". They were perfectly legal residents detained.

And both Homan and Trump took to social media to talk about how great this was and how it was just the beginning. These things have already been posted more than once, and you've ignored them.

And... I don't recall the point you're trying to make.

Do you know how often every single day someone gets handcuffed because they are being an asshole to a cop? It's a fucking lot. Someone getting handcuffed is not a story, let me guess the story originated from a left leaning news station/paper?

It is immigration issues. The one guy, they thought he only had a student visa IIRC. A bunch of articles/stories you posted were people from IIRC Canada and Germany just visiting the US. How are they legal US residents?

I'm guessing that's out of context just like a lot of things like the whole "good people on both sides" that even Snopes now says would quoted out of context.

 

[Trunkage]

Convenient news story about RussiaGate just today. IT WAS ALL A MASSIVE LIE.

Let's first of all recall that this entire thing was a scam. The collusion aspect was a scam. We know that now Hillary Clinton's campaign paid Christopher Steels to come up with this ludicrous dossier of conspiracy theories about Trump and Russia. No one takes that seriously anymore people who defend that aspect of the probes still want to cling to other claims to argue that this was credible. The whole thing was a farce including the allegations of Russian meddling which also comes from the Clinton campaign as well this allegation that Russia hacked the DNC and gave the emails to WikiLeaks and launched a massive social media campaign.

Just to be clear. Trump's team is using Signal specifically so they don't get caught and go to jail like last time

Trump knows that RussiaGate happened. He has planned around it for this administration. It just didn't happen as Clinton claimed

It's two seperate things

 

[Silvanus]

And... I don't recall the point you're trying to make.

That's unsurprising, as you have terrible trouble staying on-topic.

Citizens and other legal residents are both equally supposed to be free from arbitrary detention. That's the point. And on that point, mistakes happening more often with one group than the other is completely irrelevant. You have just decided that you give much, much less of a shit if it happens to non-citizens, even though they're supposed to be just as free from arbitrary detention.

Do you know how often every single day someone gets handcuffed because they are being an asshole to a cop? It's a fucking lot. Someone getting handcuffed is not a story, let me guess the story originated from a left leaning news station/paper?

K. I don't really care whether you consider it super important or not. Do you know how often someone spends 1 single night in a cell...? It happens every single day, yet you've been screaming bloody murder about it happening to a certain trespasser, to the point where you think it's worse than someone being detained for two entire weeks.

It is immigration issues. The one guy, they thought he only had a student visa IIRC. A bunch of articles/stories you posted were people from IIRC Canada and Germany just visiting the US. How are they legal US residents?

"I don't know how legal residence works, so therefore I'm not believing that it happened".

I'm guessing that's out of context just like a lot of things like the whole "good people on both sides" that even Snopes now says would quoted out of context.

The full post, exact words:

"Following my previously signed Executive Orders, ICE proudly apprehended and detained Mahmoud Khalil, a Radical Foreign Pro-Hamas Student on the campus of Columbia University. This is the first arrest of many to come. We know there are more students at Columbia and other Universities across the Country who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it. Many are not students, they are paid agitators."

Keep in mind: There has been zero evidence provided that Khalil was involved in any "pro-terrorist", "anti-Semitic" activity. He was arrested for protest, during which no crime was committed.

 

[Seanchaidh]

On the contrary, its very relevant. We can often more accurately spot where a politician's bread is buttered by their actions than their words. Hence a lot of neoliberal Democrats will pay lipservice to progressive causes and workers rights, while voting against them. Hence a certain brand of cynical despot will rail against threats abroad while acting to empower them.

None of that was relevant to interpreting the International Arctic Forum statement, nor the one sentence you care about within it.

Not at all: to opine that Greenland alone should determine its own trajectory would reject the right of larger, powerful neighbours to impose their interests. To opine that it's between the larger, more powerful hegemon and the smaller country in the periphery-- everyone else should stay out, but not the interested hegemon-- now that's a useful standard.

And explicitly contradicts the Budapest Memorandum, which put stable borders ahead of the rights of people to self-determination. But such would be consistent with the Minsk Agreement, which was ratified by the UN Security Council even while its Western guarantors encouraged Ukraine to ignore it.

When you start calling things speculative, it's true to a point, but it's also worth remembering how bereft of credibility your predictive powers are, and the track record of missing the obvious and inconvenient.

Yes, shame on me for interpreting the USA's absolute unwillingness to make any concession or assurance, even the most trifling or symbolic, before February 2022 as an indication that Russia would probably not invade just like the last several times the United States "warned" of such things (while doing their best to provoke them) without result. I foolishly believed that if war were probable, the United States would actually act like it wanted that war not to happen rather than just say it was going to happen and then gleefully use Ukraine to try to do damage to Russia. My error was giving the United States too much credit. Learn from that error.

 

[Kwak]

This is just the beginning of the horrors of organised evil this demonic administration will inflict on the world.

Trump admin accidentally sent man to Salvadorian prison and can’t get him back

Government argues it no longer has control over Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia’s fate

www.independent.co.uk

On Monday, in a filing in Maryland federal court, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) admitted to mistakenly sending Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia to El Salvador’s notoriously brutal CECOT prison.

“On March 15, although ICE was aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador, Abrego Garcia was removed to El Salvador because of an administrative error,” the government wrote.

The admission came in a suit from Abrego Garcia’s family, who is seeking court orders barring the U.S. from paying El Salvador for the man’s detention and demanding that the federal government request the country return him to the United States.

The Trump administration argues that because the man is no longer in U.S. custody, a U.S. court lacks jurisdiction to issue orders regarding his detention and release.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

"You don't have the authority to ask for that and we don't give a shit"

 

[Cicada 5]

Ashley St Clair Sells Tesla, Blames Elon Musk For Child Support Cuts

MAGA influencer Ashley St Clair has claimed that Elon Musk reduced financial support for their child by 60 per cent, forcing her to sell her $100K Tesla. Ms Clair, a conservative political commentator and influencer, said the Musk-owned company's stock prices showed she was not the only one cleaning up after his messes.

This came after Ms Clair, who claims to have given birth to Tesla CEO's 13th child, said, "I need to make up for the 60 per cent cut that Elon made to our son's child support."

"You can check the stocks, I'm not the only one who is cleaning up after his messes," she added.

 

[Silvanus]

None of that was relevant to interpreting the International Arctic Forum statement, nor the one sentence you care about within it.

I'm not willing to disregard someone's actions when ascertaining their priorities.

And explicitly contradicts the Budapest Memorandum, which put stable borders ahead of the rights of people to self-determination. But such would be consistent with the Minsk Agreement, which was ratified by the UN Security Council even while its Western guarantors encouraged Ukraine to ignore it.

Hmm, quite sure Minsk didn't endorse larger hegemons seizing the territory of those in their periphery. In fact, it was drafted in part to stop that happening.

My error was giving the United States too much credit. Learn from that error.

Brainrot.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Just to be clear. Trump's team is using Signal specifically so they don't get caught and go to jail like last time

Trump knows that RussiaGate happened. He has planned around it for this administration. It just didn't happen as Clinton claimed

It's two seperate things

What are you even talking about?

That's unsurprising, as you have terrible trouble staying on-topic.

Citizens and other legal residents are both equally supposed to be free from arbitrary detention. That's the point. And on that point, mistakes happening more often with one group than the other is completely irrelevant. You have just decided that you give much, much less of a shit if it happens to non-citizens, even though they're supposed to be just as free from arbitrary detention.



K. I don't really care whether you consider it super important or not. Do you know how often someone spends 1 single night in a cell...? It happens every single day, yet you've been screaming bloody murder about it happening to a certain trespasser, to the point where you think it's worse than someone being detained for two entire weeks.



"I don't know how legal residence works, so therefore I'm not believing that it happened".



The full post, exact words:

"Following my previously signed Executive Orders, ICE proudly apprehended and detained Mahmoud Khalil, a Radical Foreign Pro-Hamas Student on the campus of Columbia University. This is the first arrest of many to come. We know there are more students at Columbia and other Universities across the Country who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it. Many are not students, they are paid agitators."

Keep in mind: There has been zero evidence provided that Khalil was involved in any "pro-terrorist", "anti-Semitic" activity. He was arrested for protest, during which no crime was committed.

Never said any of that...

The intent was worse. This person handcuffed for maybe an hour is a nothing story, why did you even talk about it once, let alone keep going on about it?

I think just one story involved a legal resident that you posted.

Where's the celebration? Also, as I said, Trump was under the impression that he was under a student visa and not a green card at the time.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

...spending 6 minutes talking about how what he did is definitely not doxing, despite being the same kind of thing that would be considered definitely doxing if it was done to the "wrong" sort of target as opposed to someone like Grummz.

I've never heard of chasing down aliases and business connections being called doxing, mostly just addresses, phone numbers, and real names. The latter of which doesn't apply to Mark Kern, extremely public commentor

 

[Silvanus]

Never said any of that...

You said a citizen being detained for 1 single night is worse than a legal resident being detained for 2 full weeks. So yes, you did say that.

The intent was worse. This person handcuffed for maybe an hour is a nothing story, why did you even talk about it once, let alone keep going on about it?

I don't keep "going on about it". I've long started talking about much more severe cases, like the legal residents detained for 2 weeks without charge. But since you keep going back to make claims about those two other people taken away, it's necessary for me to continually point out you have no evidence for them.

I think just one story involved a legal resident that you posted.

Then look again, because that's simply not true.

Where's the celebration?

In the post I literally just quoted. Can you read it?

 

[Schadrach]

Ashley St Clair Sells Tesla, Blames Elon Musk For Child Support Cuts



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To quote Karen DeCrow, the fourth national president of the National Organization For Women: "Just as the Supreme Court has said that women have the right to choose whether or not to be parents, men should also have that right." Or alternately (from the same source): "autonomous women making independent decisions about their lives should not expect men to finance their choice."

Though it's not hard to argue that no longer applies in many states thanks to Roe being overturned. The "if" in that tweet is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

 

[Cicada 5]

U.S. presidential adviser Elon Musk has lambasted the French court verdict that blocked Marine Le Pen from a 2027 presidential run after the far-right figurehead was found guilty of embezzlement.

“When the radical left can’t win via democratic vote, they abuse the legal system to jail their opponents,” Musk said Monday. “This is their standard playbook throughout the world.”

Elon Musk slams Marine Le Pen guilty verdict as arch-conservatives unite in fury

Key adviser to U.S. President Donald Trump signals he will make the French far-right standard-bearer a new cause célèbre.

www.politico.eu

 

[Cicada 5]

To quote Karen DeCrow, the fourth national president of the National Organization For Women: "Just as the Supreme Court has said that women have the right to choose whether or not to be parents, men should also have that right." Or alternately (from the same source): "autonomous women making independent decisions about their lives should not expect men to finance their choice."

Though it's not hard to argue that no longer applies in many states thanks to Roe being overturned. The "if" in that tweet is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

Well, she's reaping the consequences of her own philosophy.