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Oops the drunk defense secretary shared military information with a journalist.

But what's just as interesting is that piece of vermin Vance using the situation to spread his unjustified and unprovoked hatred of Europe despite Europe not even being the primary target of the pirates ire. That's the US and Israel, not Europe. But I guess Vance sheer hatred of rule based democratic societies just runs that deep. Of course the other pieces of trash in the chat express similar sentiments.


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Oops the drunk defense secretary shared military information with a journalist.

But what's just as interesting is that piece of vermin Vance using the situation to spread his unjustified and unprovoked hatred of Europe despite Europe not even being the primary target of the pirates ire. That's the US and Israel, not Europe. But I guess Vance sheer hatred of rule based democratic societies just runs that deep. Of course the other pieces of trash in the chat express similar sentiments.


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I legitimately cannot fucking believe the incompetence of all this. And Hegseth literally said they're solid on OPSEC in the thread in which he's unwittingly leaking the plans. Fucking incredible.

Hey, remember when Hillary Clinton's use of an unsecured email server for communications far less sensitive was considered a jailable offence by Republicans? I'm sure they'll apply a consistent standard.
 

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I legitimately cannot fucking believe the incompetence of all this. And Hegseth literally said they're solid on OPSEC in the thread in which he's unwittingly leaking the plans. Fucking incredible.
I find it more off putting that the maintopic in a discussion about attacking Houthis seems to be how to extrort money from Europe.
 
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They just don't want to admit they did something wrong and will blame everyone else instead. It's Trump's only play
Ah, but if nobody knows what the hell he's blathering on about now, and what parts of it he's going to forget about tomorrow and what he's remember, it might not be a total disaster this time.
 

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The entitlement irritates me. The US and Israel start creating problems on the world stage, then psychotic pirates start targeting ship with the stated(but probably not only) goal of keeping resources away from America's beloved Israel, and then suddenly Europe is to blame and worthy of Vance's psychotic hatred.

Its a somewhat recurring problem attitude in America. I recall them scoffing about ''wirr shaffen das'' despite it not even translating into what they insisting it did, during a refugee crisis created by America's own actions in the Middle East. For about twenty years and probably longer US policy has set the Middle East on fire and due to being closer in proximity its always Europe that experiances the negative effects of this, but somehow the US thinks less of Europe due to the problems they themselves cause.
 
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* Hours after the story broke, when a reporter asked Trump for his response, he said, "I know nothing about it, you're telling me about it for the first time". He appeared genuinely ignorant, asking the reporter for basic info like the subject of the conversation. So his administration, his aides & his cabinet don't bother to keep him updated about this stuff? Was he even aware there was a principals committee meeting at all?

* Hegseth calls it a "hoax" multiple times, even though a National Security Council spokesman has confirmed the conversation as real.
 

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What I find interesting(and to America's eternal shame) is that they seem to view Europe just like how Putin views Ukraine. As a threat that shows there is an alternative to their deliberate misrule and this needs to be crushed before their population realizes there is such an alternative.

Trump, Vance and the oligarchs see Europe as a source of democracy, consumer protections and welfare for the citizenry. Its a continent where the citizen and consumer has rights and protections. This threatens the status quo the oligarchs want to establish in America where the public has neither and where all power is in the hand of the oligarchs. They justify depriving the US population of healthcare, or elimitating any government program that might protect the public(or even the state) with the premise its a ''waste'' that's simply impossible to sustain. Depriving the US public of rights, protection and even their democracy under this premise is a harder sell if a flourising Europe shows these things are very much possible. Therefore they need to cripple Europe or force it into the same vile system they want to establish.

It's very similar to how Putin saw a democratic shift in Ukraine as a fundamental threat to his rule. Not because Ukraine was allegedly full of ''nazi's'' but because a somewhat stable, somewhat wealthy Ukraine looking westwards shows the perpetually opressed Russian public that improvement is possible even in the ''Russian world''.
 

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The important bit of the No Rogue Rulings Act:

Ҥ 1370. Limitation on authority to provide injunctive relief

“Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no United States district court shall issue any order providing for injunctive relief, except in the case of such an order that is applicable only to limit the actions of a party to the case before such district court with respect to the party seeking injunctive relief from such district court.”.
 
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