Funny events in anti-woke world

[Trunkage]

You know absolutely nothing about what goes on over here. Absolutely nothing.

The issue is that I don't have rose-tinted glasses. Most non-Americans can see better than Americans because we dont have the US propaganda machine spewing nonsense at us for 40 years

I happened to be speaking to a Chinese and a Taiwanese expat yesterday. While we can disagree with a lot of things, the US losing its superpower status is one we could agree on. And part of it was the US government attacking its own citizens like removing DEI or DOGE

 

[tstorm823]

...we dont have the US propaganda machine spewing nonsense at us for 40 years...

Yes you do, as well as other nations' propaganda machines. The difference is that you have zero personal experience to help see through the propaganda.

As the famous quote goes: "“Everything you read in the newspapers is absolutely true except for the rare story of which you happen to have firsthand knowledge.”

 

[Gergar12]

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Since the memo was issued, CBS News reports the Trump administration has signed 456 agreements with local police departments, letting them act as immigration officers — turning traffic stops and routine patrols into immigration raids.


Ryan Shapiro, executive director of Property of the People, put it bluntly: “The documents reveal the Trump administration has authorized every single law enforcement officer in the country, including traffic cops, to engage in immigrant roundups explicitly outside due process.”

ICE Can Now Enter Your Home Without a Warrant to Look for Migrants, DOJ Memo Says

A new memo from the Trump administration reveals something shocking: ICE agents have been told they can enter homes without a warrant to arrest migrants, based on little more than suspicion.

dailyboulder.com

Arm everyone. This is the solution.

 

[XsjadoBlayde]

goddamn American wealthy white mormons at it again!

Jared Birchall is the name to add to growing list of insidious kunts

When I saw an ultra devout Mormon wingman was helping Elon Musk build his secret baby empire, I knew I had to dig in.
In this video, I connect the dots between Elon’s “world-saving” baby legion, and Joseph Smith’s secretive plural marriages meant to “multiply and replenish the earth.” I focus on Jared Birchall, Musk’s Mormon fixer, and how deeply Mormon ideas about family, patriarchy, secrecy, and control show up here. It’s messier (and eerier) than you think — let's get into it.

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A few resources I mention in the video:
WSJ Article that broke the story about Ashley St. Clair and covers Jared Birchall: https://www.wsj.com/politics/elon-mus...

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elon-musk-children-mothers-ashley-st-clair-grimes-dc7ba05c

Reddit thread responding to Ashely St. Clair Story: https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturech...

Mormon scripture about polygamy: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/s...

Doctrine and Covenants 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded July 12, 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant and the principle of plural marriage. Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, evidence indicates...

www.churchofjesuschrist.org

Explanation of what happens in a Mormon temple: • The Day I Realized I Was in a Cult

Mormon essay about the commandment to practice polygamy: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/s...

Doctrine and Covenants 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded July 12, 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant and the principle of plural marriage. Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, evidence indicates...

www.churchofjesuschrist.org

Birchall’s termination from Merrill Lynch: https://brokercheck.finra.org/individ...

BrokerCheck - Find a broker, investment or financial advisor

BrokerCheck is a trusted tool that shows you employment history, certifications, licenses, and any violations for brokers and investment advisors.

brokercheck.finra.org

Business Insider article about Jared Birchall’s connection to Elon Musk: https://www.businessinsider.com/meet-...

Jared Birchall, Elon Musk's right-hand man, is a buttoned-up former banker whose loyalty has few limits

The impulsive billionaire's confidante is the most straight-laced man you'll ever meet, his former colleagues and neighbors told Insider.

www.businessinsider.com

Daily Mail profile on Jared Birchall: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/21/us...

White House Assesses Ways to Persuade Women to Have More Children

Baby bonuses and menstrual cycle classes are among the ideas pitched to Trump aides as they consider plans to try boosting the birthrate.

www.nytimes.com

Deseret News profile on Jared Birchall :https://www.deseret.com/faith/2022/7/...

Who is Jared Birchall? BYU grad, Latter-day Saint is top adviser to Elon Musk, world’s richest man

Learn more about BYU grade and Latter-day Saint Jared Birchall, a wealth manager and right hand man to Elon Musk, the richest man in the world.

www.deseret.com

Salt Lake Tribune commentary on Jared Birchall: https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2022/...

Latest from Mormon Land: Elon Musk’s wingman is LDS; Dallin Oaks says to avoid extremism

In the latest news in and about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we report that Elon Musk's main financial manager is a Latter-day Saint; apostle Dallin Oaks' counsel to condemn racism and avoid extremism; apostle David Bednar's invitation to speak at the National Press Club and...

www.sltrib.com

Wikipedia page about Jared Birchall: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_B...

Jared Birchall - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Agema]

Then tell me any part of what I said that was inaccurate.

American slavery was unambiguously racist. Counting slaves - who cannot vote - as population for democratic representation is a form of profiting from slavery. Especially in maginifying the voting power of slaveholders, who could then use it to maintain slavery and very likely not for the best interest of slaves. The three-fifths compromise thus amounts to not letting slaveowners profit from slavery as much as they'd like to have done. The three-fifths compromise was thus racist and discriminatory.

It's pile of steaming crap to pretend otherwise, and yet some people do seem to love those little logic games. I don't think they get racism - they don't really care and there's little sense of it in their hearts. Thus whilst both the Democrats and Republicans can play games with racism to score political points, nine times of out ten when someone appears complete insensitive to where the real problem is around racism, it's a Republican.

 

[XsjadoBlayde]

 

[tstorm823]

American slavery was unambiguously racist. Counting slaves - who cannot vote - as population for democratic representation is a form of profiting from slavery. Especially in maginifying the voting power of slaveholders, who could then use it to maintain slavery and very likely not for the best interest of slaves. The three-fifths compromise thus amounts to not letting slaveowners profit from slavery as much as they'd like to have done. The three-fifths compromise was thus racist and discriminatory.

If your argument is that the three-fifths compromise was racist for allowing slaveholders a fraction of the power they'd have otherwise, then the argument is that it was not discriminatory enough. The perspective people were offering was that its racist to count slaves as less than a person, but the only reasonable position to say the compromise was bad is by saying it was actually problematic to count slaves as more than zero.

Ultimately, the point here is that the truth of the matter is a little unintuitive, the people back then who were arguing to count slaves as full people were the ones enslaving them. Which is, quite accidentally, a pretty apt comparison to the current debate about DEI after all. Politicians and activists are pushing arguments that do not serve to benefit the marginalized at all, but rather just win those same politicians political power carried on the backs of the people they are using rather than helping. It's simple to try to say that someone opposing diversity initiatives must hate non-white people just the same way as its simple to say that the people trying not to count slaves in the population must think of slaves as sub-human, but the reality of the situation is that both of those intuitive conclusions are completely backwards.

And the thing I am really excited to see is how you all react if things just work out. People not just in the US but globally are voting in conservative politicians, what do you do if your boogeymen succeed and nations prosper? What do you say if racial minorities thrive under Trump? What do you say if migration slows down globally and the global south begins to stand on its own. What do you say if people happily embrace religion again? If abortions stop? If crime falls? You all seem utterly unprepared for even the possibility that things could get better, and I am excited to see who here is wise enough to catch on first.

 

[Kwak]

If you ask for proof of "authority" while the fascist goons are kidnapping people that's a crime now.

ICE promises bystanders who challenged Charlottesville raid will be prosecuted

After ICE raided a downtown Charlottesville courthouse and arrested two men, the federal agency is promising to prosecute the bystanders who challenged their authority.

dailyprogress.com

 

[Kwak]

If your argument is that the three-fifths compromise was racist for allowing slaveholders a fraction of the power they'd have otherwise, then the argument is that it was not discriminatory enough. The perspective people were offering was that its racist to count slaves as less than a person, but the only reasonable position to say the compromise was bad is by saying it was actually problematic to count slaves as more than zero.

Ultimately, the point here is that the truth of the matter is a little unintuitive, the people back then who were arguing to count slaves as full people were the ones enslaving them. Which is, quite accidentally, a pretty apt comparison to the current debate about DEI after all. Politicians and activists are pushing arguments that do not serve to benefit the marginalized at all, but rather just win those same politicians political power carried on the backs of the people they are using rather than helping. It's simple to try to say that someone opposing diversity initiatives must hate non-white people just the same way as its simple to say that the people trying not to count slaves in the population must think of slaves as sub-human, but the reality of the situation is that both of those intuitive conclusions are completely backwards.

And the thing I am really excited to see is how you all react if things just work out. People not just in the US but globally are voting in conservative politicians, what do you do if your boogeymen succeed and nations prosper? What do you say if racial minorities thrive under Trump? What do you say if migration slows down globally and the global south begins to stand on its own. What do you say if people happily embrace religion again? If abortions stop? If crime falls? You all seem utterly unprepared for even the possibility that things could get better, and I am excited to see who here is wise enough to catch on first.

Maybe fascism will work THIS time guys! Everybody loves being oppressed more, it's how nations prosper!

 

[Phoenixmgs]

"I'm not gonna stand here, present some egghead scientific argument based on fact. I'm just a regular dude; I like to drink beer, y'know? I love my family; 'rock, flag, and eagle,' right, Charlie? You see, Charlie? These liberals are trying to assassinate my character. I can't change their mind; I won't change my mind, because I don't have to! Because I'm an American. I won't change my mind on anything, regardless of the facts that are set out before me. I'm dug in, and I'll never change."

Ronald McDonald (aka: "Mac"), It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia, S8:Ep.10, c. 2012
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I know The Simpsons is famous for predicting shit well before it comes to fruition, but hats off to IASIP in this case. This was written as satire in 2012, satirizing a ridiculously moronic, ignorant, and stubborn mindset, but sadly, this might as well be the very real and unironic rantings of any MAGA cultist today, 13 years later.

That satire is not just about one side, it's about both sides. That's what It's Always Sunny political episodes are about. It even says in the quote there that Mac could use an argument based in fact, but he can't change their mind. Same thing with the gun episode (Gun Fever Too: Still Hot) where 2 of them are opposed to gun control and the other 2 are pro gun control and then both sides end up with the opposite perspective at the end of the episode and thus the episode shows the arguments on both sides. Similar the Trump/Biden election episode where the episode completely avoids being pro democratic or republican. Right now, neither side would even entertain that the other side might be right about just one fucking thing ever. Hence, why schools were closed for 18 months by democrats all because orange man said to open schools.

We all saw what happened when DEI was removed. Very incompetent white people got jobs they should never have had access to because they are talentless hacks

Trump wasn't worried about DEI being racist. He was worried about POC being more talented than some white people and that was unfair

What the hell are you even talking about? DEI hardly changes anything, it's a joke of a policy. Trump appointed the 1st Indian as FBI Director, an Egyptian is head of the FDA, and an Indian is head of the NIH. There's hardly anyone that cares about race when hiring. You really think our government went from complete competence to complete incompetence because DEI was dropped? That's fucking crazy ass shit if you actually believe that.

 

[Agema]

Ultimately, the point here is that the truth of the matter is a little unintuitive, the people back then who were arguing to count slaves as full people were the ones enslaving them.

It was the exploitation of slaves for the benefit of slaveowners. The fact that you and that tool in Indiana don't seem to be able or willing to acknowledge it as such is why we're into the territory of racism. The you both seem to want to play with sophistry to pretend otherwise just makes that even clearer.

And the thing I am really excited to see is how you all react if things just work out.

The right currently offers neoliberalism and authoritarian populism. Neoliberalism is the status quo that has been failing our societies for decades. The populism is a reaction to that, and comes in the form of either authoritarianism and incompetence or an anti-woke facade for turbocharged neoliberalism (or both).

I am perfectly open to the idea that the right might hit upon a solution to the world's problems. I just don't see any that give me any confidence.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

And the thing I am really excited to see is how you all react if things just work out.

Work out for who, precisely? Only people who are exactly like you? We've had that before, and it absolutely sucked for everyone else.

 

[tstorm823]

It was the exploitation of slaves for the benefit of slaveowners. The fact that you and that tool in Indiana don't seem to be able or willing to acknowledge it as such is why we're into the territory of racism.

What are we not acknowledging? We are in agreement that slavery is bad, we are championing those people who fought against slavery and the influence of slavers. Don't forget, the right to vote was limited everywhere to essentially white male property owners, the north had its share of disenfranchised peoples as well as the south, but the south with its slave population was uniquely weakened by the rule taking away some of the representation that would otherwise be due to their population. Under the 3/5ths compromise, a state would get more representation in Congress (without any change to the voting population) if they stopped buying slaves and hired free poor people instead. It politically discouraged slave owning.

The Democrats that Republican was criticizing were claiming that it encouraged discrimination, but it was created to do the opposite.

I am perfectly open to the idea that the right might hit upon a solution to the world's problems. I just don't see any that give me any confidence.

I think your commitment to the resentment of right-wing people makes you incapable of seeing any positives.

Work out for who, precisely? Only people who are exactly like you? We've had that before, and it absolutely sucked for everyone else.

The post you quoted answered this question several times over, which you then snipped out to offer your own disingenuous nonsense.

Maybe fascism will work THIS time guys! Everybody loves being oppressed more, it's how nations prosper!

Or conservatism isn't fascism, or anything even resembling fascism to anyone who has not completely lost their mind.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

Or conservatism isn't fascism, or anything even resembling fascism to anyone who has not completely lost their mind.

It's not facism, really! Please ignore our supporters' waiving of swastika flags and hailing Hitler.

 

[tstorm823]

It's not facism, really! Please ignore our supporters' waiving of swastika flags and hailing Hitler.

I understand that you've totally lost your mind, you don't need to document it further.

Since you're probably not gonna even think about it: the boat is 99.9% fake, they crashed a boat parade and shouted racial slurs, and got denounced and left behind very quickly. Nearly guaranteed those are Democrats just trying to cause trouble.

The second has zero even implied ties to conservatism or the Republican Party.

The third picture was taken at the Bloomsburg Fair (I was actually in Bloomsburg for work last week, funny enough). We're talking about a venue that does tractor pulls and hosts Jeff Dunham shows in a county that's 64% Republican by voter registration. They kicked that guy out of the fair.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

I understand that you've totally lost your mind, you don't need to document it further.

"You've completely proven me wrong, so I have to dismiss your argument out-of-hand to save face."

 

[XsjadoBlayde]

this is absolutely a must watch for anyone who knows anyone who doubts the horrors of what's occurring in Gaza, or even those already conscious

BBC Two - Louis Theroux, The Settlers

Louis Theroux returns to the West Bank to meet some of the Israeli settlers living there.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[tstorm823]

"You've completely proven me wrong, so I have to dismiss your argument out-of-hand to save face."

His post is pure face-plant.

If you want to understand what you two look like, imagine if Phoenix was in here posting pictures protestors with signs supporting Hamas next to people in Bernie shirts. You'd sniff it out instantly. You just can't see that it's exactly what you look like all the time.

 

[Gergar12]

Strong language here.

Can RFK Jr. Really Take Away ADHD Medications?

The Trump administration is calling for a report “assess[ing] the prevalence of and threat" of several drugs, including stimulants like Adderall

www.yahoo.com

If I had gotten half as many people killed as this ignorant killer in American Samoa or anywhere, even by mistake. I would at best do everything in my life to redeem myself in the opposite direction. And yes, while some of his ideas are good, like getting rid of fluoride in water, my idea is that it should be complemented with better dental care funding, and generally better healthcare policy in general, and yes, the US can afford it.

Getting rid of some of the additives in food that California and the EU have banned is a good thing. But this guy is so ignorant, he doesn't read the primary or even secondary sources or counterfactual information. Part of the problem I have with the Green party, for example, is the same thing. Industrial agriculture, for example, has saved many lives historically, but at the same time, we do need better environmental standards, or else it ruins the lives of local animals, plants, and the water supply. But there's no nuance with many radical orgs that both progressives & environmentalists, centrists, and conservatives join.

Industrial Agriculture: How Intensive Farming Affects Our Lives

Intensive farming on an industrial scale supports global food supply yet induces health risks & environmental pollution: transforming challenge into advantage.

eos.com

RFK Jr: Fact-checking his views on health policy

Robert F Kennedy Jr has been nominated to be the next US health secretary, but some of his views are not backed by science.

www.bbc.com

Edit:

I say we have given enough time to the Trump administration. They can't govern, and don't have effective public policy. Maybe they have a better foreign policy than George W Bush, the worst president in recent US history, right now, which is the lowest bar in the world; everything is done for personal benefit. They are going to bribe Americans with some douchebag savings check from firing American public workers inn the 2028 midterms and funny enough my cyclicism keepts telling me that will work. Their tax cuts to the rich will eventually gut American public investments in the long run, and in R&D. Jared Kushner is a sociopath who wants to take away the homes of Palestinians who live in the West Bank and Gaza. I am sure some of the businessmen in Trump's administration are competent at relationship management, adn are less arrogant.

By the way, I was laid off because of the Trump administration, and my parents' naturalization has been delayed because they keep firing USCIS personnel. After all, my non-profit organization lost funding partially, and so there were multiple rounds of layoffs from it. But I don't hold that against them; what I do hold against them is the Eugenics-lite policy, the culture wars, harassing international students(and this is coming from someone who has every reason to hate them, given the fact that at OSU all of the Chinese international students just segregated themselves from everyone else, even us ABCs or American-born Chinese). Hating what are essentially climate and crime refugees from Central America, almost all of whom don't commit crimes, and just want to work. Wanting to instigate a protest that would be defined as a riot against African Americans by removing them from history in American institutions. Wanting to end American general elections in favor of primaries(Peter Zeihan's words, not mine).

And every conservative out there, including an uncle of mine who voted this way(Because he dislikes women in power) despite having two daughters, will come out and make excuses instead of owning up to it. Then, afterwards, they will vote in the next guy who wants to cut taxes, which means they want to hollow out every public investment program we have made since the 1930s.

But the solution to this isn't just leaving red states for blue states, it's not closing off family members or friends; that's not a great society to be in, it's why many rural areas in America are bad places to live, and the inverse it's why gentrification happens and the rent gets to be too high for many work-class people. It's having good-faith conversations. And yes, I do like experts, and while some experts like some of the healthcare risk insurance actuaries at UHC, who deny people healthcare, or some of the corporate law people who watn to screw labor with laws they can't read. At the same time, the US is also in debt, the debt/interest payments are unsustainable in the long run if they keep growing as a percent of both GDP and the American budget. So at some point, the rich will have to chip in, but since a lot of them have channels like CNBC on their side to harass people like Lina Khan, Elizabeth Warren, and AOC, because they think Sanders is a rabble-rouser who no one listens to.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

I understand that you've totally lost your mind, you don't need to document it further.

Since you're probably not gonna even think about it: the boat is 99.9% fake, they crashed a boat parade and shouted racial slurs, and got denounced and left behind very quickly. Nearly guaranteed those are Democrats just trying to cause trouble.

The second has zero even implied ties to conservatism or the Republican Party.

The third picture was taken at the Bloomsburg Fair (I was actually in Bloomsburg for work last week, funny enough). We're talking about a venue that does tractor pulls and hosts Jeff Dunham shows in a county that's 64% Republican by voter registration. They kicked that guy out of the fair.

Yes yes, everything is a false flag operation and antifa did January 6th.