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And the rest of her response sounds like everyone else shouldn't care if they're left to die, because they're going to die anyway.
That wasn't how she answered the actual question, that was the response to a heckler shouting "people are going to die". "Everyone dies" is a composed and accurate response to useless hysterics. "People are going to die" is not a policy argument, no policy is going to change that universal truth, to acknowledge that and then discuss the actual reasoning behind the policy is a mature way to handle it.
Ah, 'defend to stupidity' mode. Well, at least you got one thing right by noting it was technically accurate.
It was the tone deaf answer of a politician who failed to find the right words at the time. That's why a) she's fumbling for her words before and b) there was a surge in dissatisfied crowd noise after. It was a dumb answer. However, the simpler issue is that it was also trivial: who doesn't fail to say the right thing occasionally?
Also, there is no need to call the statement she is responding to "useless hysterics". Whoever was shouting it out was not seemingly helpless in the grip of their own emotions, and it is also perfectly reasonable to note that refusal of treatment is likely to end in deaths.
You're talking in circles. "People are going to die" is a declaration of opposition to a policy argument, because that policy is going to cause people to die. Countering it with "Well, we're all going to die" (and then later, pushing Christianity in response) is the kind of "oh well, whatever" response that Republicans are throwing around any time they've gotten caught giving brainless responses to criticism of Trump's policies. We don't all belong to your cult, and we don't all shut our brains off any time El Jefe speaks.
...Well, not according to Christian mythology, which makes the combined appeal to both Christianity and technical accuracy even more bizarre.
But then, we'd never expect Republican Senators to have much grasp of their own supposed faith.
Well, one's immortal soul doesn't die: the rest however does.
Although I'd certainly grant you that the idea that as long as the immortal soul is peachy everything else is secondary can be employed to justify one hell of a lot of suffering on Earth.
There were at least two people who supposedly didn't die at all: Elijah and Enoch were taken living up to heaven.
Most Americans are right...
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Most Americans here are wrong...
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Trump made clear he wants a deal with Iran. Most Americans agree. | Brookings
If Trump does make a deal with Iran that limits its nuclear capabilities to peaceful ends, he will likely have strong approval from the American public.
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Most Americans here are wrong...
Most LGBTQ+ adults feel Americans don't accept transgender people, Pew poll finds
LGBTQ+ people in the U.S. see lower social acceptance for transgender people than those who are lesbian, gay or bisexual, a new Pew Research Center poll found.
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I challenge the assertion that Trump has made it clear what he wants on this issue. Or if he has any concrete desires regarding it at all. Maybe he says he wants a deal, and maybe next week, or next sentence even, he says something else.Most Americans are right...
Trump made clear he wants a deal with Iran. Most Americans agree. | Brookings
If Trump does make a deal with Iran that limits its nuclear capabilities to peaceful ends, he will likely have strong approval from the American public.
A nuclear deal with Iran, eh? Maybe a bit like the one there was before, that Trump ditched?Most Americans are right...
Trump made clear he wants a deal with Iran. Most Americans agree. | Brookings
If Trump does make a deal with Iran that limits its nuclear capabilities to peaceful ends, he will likely have strong approval from the American public.
If "People are going to die" is a declaration of opposition to a policy, than you have to oppose every policy, as every policy is going to allow people to die. Useless hysterics.
He wanted a deal that he made because he gets kickbacks for doing so, and also he let the neo-cons like John Bolton run his first admin to the ground.
Qatar wants it, and they gave him a 747 for his library.
Again corruption I suspect in government is simply the difference between someone's ability and their salary. Some people are power-hungry and want to dominate, some people do it for morality, and some people do it for any other reason like interest. If you want government corruption to stop you need to pay them more and increase the cost for doing so. This idea that President Barrack Obama gets paid 400 thousand dollars to do the presidency is dumb beyond belief, now I don't believe some people should become president(DJT included). With government jobs at least there was stability, pensions, and good benefits. But US senators and house reps get paid peanuts compared to their ability, and responsibility.
To give a better more EU- friendly example Von Leyen gets paid under 400 thousand, and the President of the European Council 447 thousand. That's a head of state for a bloc of around 450 million people. It creates a vacuum in desired income that will be filled in paid speeches, after-position board seats, and sometimes illegal kickbacks. And in the US we have insider trading occuring. Like MTG buying PLTR, or Pelosi buying Nvidia.
I don't fault DJT for taking the jet, I fault him for making it so overt which will cause ripple effects in overt corruption for decades to come. I would rather it had been done behind closed doors. The second problem is that I don't see DJT as having good stewardship of the government, he has destroyed future R&D with the universities for culture war reasons. It's not AI that's important, it's everything from quantum computers to medical research to even better studies on things like phonics for reading. He's chasing students from everywhere away. Of course, you don't want to be like Baghdad and put all your effort into R&D to get destroyed by an invasion, but some of it does need to go into R&D for nonmilitary research projects.
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Bear in mind how Trump has used his charities/foundations/etc. You absolutely know that in Trump's mind that they have given him a 747.
Bollocks. The president of the USA is a fucking billionaire, and he's grabbing everything that isn't nailed down. There are undoubtedly some politicians who would be less inclined to corruption were they paid more, but there might not be that many of them, and you need to face facts that a ton of politicians, like the current president, will stuff their pockets no matter what you pay them.
You don't deal with corruption by buying the fucks off with massive salaries, you make it institutionally difficult. You enforce accountability and transparency, and you scrutinise the shit out of everyone with utmost vigilance. SCOTUS haven't been bothering, and that's why they're accepting kickbacks left, right and centre. The President is going wild because SCOTUS have declared his corruption none of their business and his party in Congress refuse to even acknowledge there might be a problem, never mind act on it. That's why you're corrupt as fuck. Your elites have decided that they aren't interested in policing themselves.
That's why I mentioned that we need to increase the cost of corruption too, but on the salary point. A state rep in many states makes minimum wage. So they need a day job vs doing their civic duty. A house rep in the US Congress doesn't make enough to have one home in DC case in point AOC, and many others who need to have apartments or live in their office, I don't know about you but I would rather have a house rep not sleep in a sleeping bag before voting on approving a low-level cabinet position that may be the voice of reason that stops the US from doing something dumb like invading Iran on Israel's and the neocon's orders. Or signs off on a bill that could be the new Jones Act that kills US commercial shipbuilding. Politicians aren't holy men they need to feed their families, many US presidents weren't billionaires. Case in point Grant, and Truman.
I also would like to mention that your recommendations rely on an engaged citizenry, which isn't a constant. Whereas once you put in say a minimum wage increase or a state rep pay increase it stays generally for a long time or will get increased. As for elites policing themselves, there is capital/'the rich' bribing people in EU and European capitals like the UK, Russia, Germany, and France they just occur more slowly but America's fate will one thing be Western Europe, Canada, NZ, and Australia's fate as well. As for Trump being a billionaire, he's an anomaly. Most US presidents aren't billionaires in the 21st century.