Funny events in anti-woke world

[Eacaraxe]

Proportionality and escalation only matter when it's the protestors doing it and cops are justified in everything they do so long as I can mental gymnastics it into being something vaguely related to public order. And none of that was actually lethal anyways, so long as you ignore all the times cops beat someone within an inch of their lives and they die later in custody as a result of those injuries, or the inconvenient number of people who die to less-lethal crowd control munitions.

The real story here is Antifa black bloc communists have fifth level wizards and sorcerers in the streets, throwing fireballs at cavalrymen!

Ah, there we go, now your post makes sense.

Your words:

"He aimed a freaking 30 foot fireball at the police."

"Yes, that tends to be a possible outcome when shooting fireballs at mounted police."

You see, that's where tstorm done fuk'd up. He's confusing fireball, a 3rd level spell, with wall of fire, a 4th level spell. And you can't get a 30' radius out of fireball, since the widen spell metamagic doubles the radius to 40'. Antifor was clearly casting wall of fire, not fireball, and he did it far enough away -- but without lining it up properly -- the Porkbeast Cavalry would have used their movement to avoid it and still take their standard actions to use their wands of stinking cloud or scorching ray. Wall of fire doesn't even heavily obscure its own squares or squares behind it.

I agree it was a major misplay on Antifor's part, but you gotta respect that concentration bonus to maintain it while getting surrounded and one-round KO'ed by the Porkbeast Cavalry.

 

[tstorm823]

one cop decides to ride his horse over the man anyway .Why did one strike at him at all?

It does not look like he decided to ride the horse over him. One horse kicked when a firework exploded and the rider pulled back on the reigns. The other horse moved forward as the fire flared up behind and the rider pulls on the reigns and moves further away. If you watch the riders, they don't make any obvious moves to indicate they were commanding the horses to step on top of him.

He was never struck. The rider struck the ground while pulling the horse away.

 

[XsjadoBlaydette]

dim tool tries explaining why he likes Rorschach from Watchman

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[Phoenixmgs]

My position is as it always was: I don't care if a franchise casts someone of any ethnicity for a role, unless it somehow actively undermines the core narrative (i.e., if Othello, Desdemona and Iago were all of the same ethnicity and the text was unchanged, it would undermine the core narrative unless there was a really compelling reason for it). There has been no shift.



No problem proving a causal link between the Covid vaccine and Myocarditis, pre-April-2021? Let's see the study.



I was immediately sceptical of this for a few reasons. Foremost that he posts the table of 'excess events' against vaccination doses without including the population size, making it essentially meaningless. Thankfully we can go to the Nature report itself for the population size: per 1 million. So that's actually 5 more myocarditis excess events per million people for that specific subgroup. Vinay Prasad felt compelled to snip out the contextual size of the sample for some strange reason, and just post the one bar being bigger than the other.

Now. Even though such negligible numbers are well within the margins for background noise, let's assume it's true, meaning that for those over 40, there is an increased 0.0005% risk of myocarditis. Shocking indeed!

....of course, I said to compare that to the risks associated with Covid. Not just myocarditis. Let's see what Nature has to say about the relative risks of other heart issues, like pericarditis and arrhythmia;

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:0 Not looking good for Team Covid.



Public health policy you disagree with isn't a "lie". It may be misguided, or even damaging, but it's not a lie, in the way that RFK's published report is full of lies.

It makes no sense for Snow White to be Latina, the character is both iconic and also literally described as being white in the story. It also makes no sense to have random guards in the kingdom and all the races either.

They found the signal well before that.

There was the 2nd report (which is linked) that separated the sexes:
In summary, the risk of hospital admission or death from myocarditis is greater following COVID-19 infection than following vaccination and remains modest following sequential doses of mRNA vaccine including a third booster dose of BNT162b in the overall population. However, the risk of myocarditis following vaccination is consistently higher in younger males, particularly following a second dose of RNA mRNA-1273 vaccine.

Saying opening schools is unsafe was a lie. Saying beaches were unsafe was a lie. Saying saying 6 feet away is safe was a lie. Saying masks made covid safe was a lie. Saying there was no myocarditis signal was a lie. Saying covid was a disease of the unvaccinated (after vaccinations were available obviously) was a lie.

You gonna admit kids in some places had to wear masks while playing instruments yet? How many different sources and pictures do I have to get for you to simply admit that said thing happened?

The only person worried about Snow White not being White was you. YOU said they weren't. No one else here is concerned

THEN you brought in a totally different definition of White with the Census graph and pretended it was the same definition

I provided four different definitions of White. Because I know that there are differences in opinions and I'm not trying to pass one definition of White as another to score political points like you

The Wikipedia entry that I linked does say that 57.1 %of the population are white, non-hispanic. I didn't really care what the percentage was, I was just trying to get the percentage because I knew Disney's recent output does not match the US population demographics and that was my point.

I was not "worried" about Snow White not being white, I'm just pointing that the character is white. I wasn't going to see the movie whether Zegler was white or not because the movie looked like crap and it was crap. I'd have the exact same "worried" feeling if the next Blade movie had a white guy playing Blade (outside of it being some multiverse or "what if" scenario).

 

[Bedinsis]

It makes no sense for Snow White to be Latina, the character is both iconic and also literally described as being white in the story. It also makes no sense to have random guards in the kingdom and all the races either.

Those scenarios alone might make little sense, but in conjunction it paints the picture that the vision of the filmmakers was that the setting was not bound by the racial composition employed when making the 1939 version. And one can point to the demographics of the German lands back when the brothers Grimm wrote the fairy-tale down as making it unrealistic but I would contend that it is after all a fairy-tale and creative liberties of that nature is within the scope of reasonable.

 

[Schadrach]

Ah, there we go, now your post makes sense.

No it doesn't. A sorcerer needs to be 6th level in order to cast Fireball. It's a big part of the tradeoff for spontaneous casting and more slots.

And one can point to the demographics of the German lands back when the brothers Grimm wrote the fairy-tale down as making it unrealistic but I would contend that it is after all a fairy-tale and creative liberties of that nature is within the scope of reasonable.

...again, only so long as the folktale or myth being adapted originates from Europe or from European diaspora. Folktales or myths from any other origin "belong" to the group that originated them or their likely descendants and casting should respect that. IOW, Cerridwen can be any race but Grandmother Spider must be Native American.

 

[Chimpzy]

Billionaire dies after ‘swallowing a bee’ at polo match

Sunjay Kapur, an Indian businessman, fell ill at sporting event in Windsor on June 12

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Thaluikhain]

No, I've stated your belief in his guilt as fact. I'm not saying he's absolutely guilty, I'm saying you absolutely believe he is, just like everyone else, and you'd be stupid not to. I'm not bothering to go back and count how many times I've said it's not impossible he's innocent, but I believe it was 3 or 4 times now.

Claiming that everyone must believe he is guilty while acknowledging that he might not be is novel, if nothing else.

 

[Silvanus]

It makes no sense for Snow White to be Latina, the character is both iconic and also literally described as being white in the story. It also makes no sense to have random guards in the kingdom and all the races either.

K. So you do want casting to preferentially treat some ethnicities over others. Just when it's examples you happen to like.

They found the signal well before that.

Cool, so let's see the study.

There was the 2nd report (which is linked) that separated the sexes:
In summary, the risk of hospital admission or death from myocarditis is greater following COVID-19 infection than following vaccination and remains modest following sequential doses of mRNA vaccine including a third booster dose of BNT162b in the overall population. However, the risk of myocarditis following vaccination is consistently higher in younger males, particularly following a second dose of RNA mRNA-1273 vaccine.

Yes, i've seen all that, and if you properly read the post to which you're responding, you'll see i've addressed it. And in that group, the younger males, the higher excess is 5 per million, or 0.0005% greater risk.

Now compare that to the higher risk of cardial arrhythmia from covid across the board, including that subgroup, which is several thousand excess events per million.

Saying opening schools is unsafe was a lie. Saying beaches were unsafe was a lie. Saying saying 6 feet away is safe was a lie. Saying masks made covid safe was a lie. Saying there was no myocarditis signal was a lie. Saying covid was a disease of the unvaccinated (after vaccinations were available obviously) was a lie.

None of these things are lies.

What I find amusing about the "opening schools is unsafe is a lie" bit, is that you do have a point that children are generally much safer, and various expert organisations did want schools to reopen much earlier. The risk was significantly lower.

...yet the risk was still higher than 0.0005%, which is the excess risk you're banging on about with myocarditis in young adults. With myocarditis, you want an utterly negligible risk to be considered a severe concern and to change policy around it. But with schools you want the opposite: for lower risk situations to be ignored and considered safe. You're inconsistent.

 

[Eacaraxe]

No it doesn't. A sorcerer needs to be 6th level in order to cast Fireball. It's a big part of the tradeoff for spontaneous casting and more slots.

That's 3rd edition (and the 2nd edition retroactive write-up). Besides, Antifor is clearly an evoker wizard -- if Antifor was a sorcerer, under 3rd edition rules a widened fireball would have cost a full-round to cast and he wouldn't have been able to move in the same turn.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Those scenarios alone might make little sense, but in conjunction it paints the picture that the vision of the filmmakers was that the setting was not bound by the racial composition employed when making the 1939 version. And one can point to the demographics of the German lands back when the brothers Grimm wrote the fairy-tale down as making it unrealistic but I would contend that it is after all a fairy-tale and creative liberties of that nature is within the scope of reasonable.

But until a civilization either develops technology to move around the world with ease or some sorta magical equivalent, you aren't going to having a racially mixed population. Fictional worlds like LoTR and GoT are the same way as well because that's just how things would be and it wouldn't make sense for it to be racially mixed.

K. So you do want casting to preferentially treat some ethnicities over others. Just when it's examples you happen to like.



Cool, so let's see the study.



Yes, i've seen all that, and if you properly read the post to which you're responding, you'll see i've addressed it. And in that group, the younger males, the higher excess is 5 per million, or 0.0005% greater risk.

Now compare that to the higher risk of cardial arrhythmia from covid across the board, including that subgroup, which is several thousand excess events per million.



None of these things are lies.

What I find amusing about the "opening schools is unsafe is a lie" bit, is that you do have a point that children are generally much safer, and various expert organisations did want schools to reopen much earlier. The risk was significantly lower.

...yet the risk was still higher than 0.0005%, which is the excess risk you're banging on about with myocarditis in young adults. With myocarditis, you want an utterly negligible risk to be considered a severe concern and to change policy around it. But with schools you want the opposite: for lower risk situations to be ignored and considered safe. You're inconsistent.

I said you do make castings based on race in obvious circumstances... If you made another Die Hard movie with the main character John McClane, you'd have to cast a white guy as John McClane obviously.

Google Search

We're talking about incident rate of myocarditis, not cardiac arrhythmia.

I believe it was Sweden that did the school study (spring or summer 2020) and everyone else opened schools besides the US. Search all the mask studies prior to 2020, expert consensus (that thing you love so much) said masks don't work against upper respiratory infections, the 6 foot number was literally pulled out of someone's ass, being outside was extremely safe (yet beaches and parks were closed, kids had to wear masks outside playing sports), saying only the unvaccinated spread covid was a lie (which, funnily enough, we already knew from Israel wasn't true).

You gonna admit kids wore masks when playing instruments in some places yet? How many different articles and pictures do I need to post?

 

[Silvanus]

I said you do make castings based on race in obvious circumstances... If you made another Die Hard movie with the main character John McClane, you'd have to cast a white guy as John McClane obviously.

"Obvious circumstances" just meaning "examples you like".

Google Search

That's odd, the results of that Google search don't substantiate what you said. I can see an Israeli study that published well after April 2021, and another Israeli study linking Covid itself to Myocarditis earlier than April 2021...

We're talking about incident rate of myocarditis, not cardiac arrhythmia.

Actually, we're talking about the risk factors associated with both. That's what you responded to with "you couldn't be more wrong".

Pray tell, if overall the risks associated with Covid-19 dwarf the risks associated with the Vaccine, even in the group you identified, why should we treat the Vaccine as a greater danger?

I believe it was Sweden that did the school study (spring or summer 2020) and everyone else opened schools besides the US.

Already shown to be wrong.

You gonna admit kids wore masks when playing instruments in some places yet? How many different articles and pictures do I need to post?

? I never disputed that they did in some places. I explicitly acknowledged it.

They didn't have to. Their gov didn't tell them to. No guidance, no "science" instructed them to. A few little clubs etc just made a rather silly decision early on, and you've somehow concluded that the US government was therefore going insane.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

"Obvious circumstances" just meaning "examples you like".



That's odd, the results of that Google search don't substantiate what you said. I can see an Israeli study that published well after April 2021, and another Israeli study linking Covid itself to Myocarditis earlier than April 2021...



Actually, we're talking about the risk factors associated with both. That's what you responded to with "you couldn't be more wrong".

Pray tell, if overall the risks associated with Covid-19 dwarf the risks associated with the Vaccine, even in the group you identified, why should we treat the Vaccine as a greater danger?



Already shown to be wrong.



? I never disputed that they did in some places. I explicitly acknowledged it.

They didn't have to. Their gov didn't tell them to. No guidance, no "science" instructed them to. A few little clubs etc just made a rather silly decision early on, and you've somehow concluded that the US government was therefore going insane.

Really just common sense.

Signal means there is something we need to study/look at.

Let's delve into these numbers. Provide your source for this. Because I'm absolutely certain that the risk of myocarditis, even within this group, pales in comparison to the risks brought by Covid itself. You're fearmongering about a negligible risk and encouraging people to avoid that risk by taking other, greater risks.

Again, not true. Name a single peer country that did not have school open at or by Fall 2020.


It was backed by "science", they did research on this. And a DOCTOR is agreeing with this bullshit.

In July, the Iowa High School Music association released recommendations for performing arts students this Fall. It included recommending students wear masks while singing in chorus and even cutting a slit in a surgical mask to slip an instrumental mouthpiece through while playing.

It turns out, there's scientific research supporting the goofy-looking instrumental masks, albeit in the very early stages.

They also say cutting a slit in a typical surgical mask with an exacto knife is effective.

"Obviously, don’t wear a mask with a hole in it for just general walking around the hallways," said Dr. Weaver. "We don’t wanna see that. But this would be your performance mask."

Masks on while playing instruments? School music recommendations say it's possible

A large, first-of-its-kind music study being spearheaded by the National College Band Directors Association and the NFHS has implications for Iowa students.

www.weareiowa.com

 

[Silvanus]

Really just common sense.

Lol k.

Signal means there is something we need to study/look at.

So? I asked you to substantiate the idea that Israel knew all about this well before April 2021, and you haven't provided that.

((Quotes me saying)):
Let's delve into these numbers. Provide your source for this. Because I'm absolutely certain that the risk of myocarditis, even within this group, pales in comparison to the risks brought by Covid itself. You're fearmongering about a negligible risk and encouraging people to avoid that risk by taking other, greater risks.

...Yes. Exactly as I said. The risk of myocarditis within this group pales in comparison to the risks brought by Covid itself-- which are not limited to Myocarditis.

Let's say the risk of the Vaccine in the quoted age group is 15 excess Myocarditis events per million. Then the risk of Covid in the quoted age group is 10 excess Myocarditis events per million (so yes, fewer than 15).... plus ~3000 arrythmia events, plus ~20 pericarditis events, etc. Myocarditis alone is 0.0005% more likely within this subgroup with the vaccine than the disease... yet overall risks of heart problems are overwhelmingly lower with the vaccine than with the disease.

Again, not true. Name a single peer country that did not have school open at or by Fall 2020.

Go and read the list already provided.

It was backed by "science", they did research on this. And a DOCTOR is agreeing with this bullshit.

In July, the Iowa High School Music association released recommendations for performing arts students this Fall. It included recommending students wear masks while singing in chorus and even cutting a slit in a surgical mask to slip an instrumental mouthpiece through while playing.

It turns out, there's scientific research supporting the goofy-looking instrumental masks, albeit in the very early stages.

They also say cutting a slit in a typical surgical mask with an exacto knife is effective.

"Obviously, don’t wear a mask with a hole in it for just general walking around the hallways," said Dr. Weaver. "We don’t wanna see that. But this would be your performance mask."

Masks on while playing instruments? School music recommendations say it's possible

A large, first-of-its-kind music study being spearheaded by the National College Band Directors Association and the NFHS has implications for Iowa students.

www.weareiowa.com

K, so a doctor said it? Is this doctor "the science"? The gov didn't say to do this; scientific orgs didn't say to do this. Some guy said it, and a few kids did it.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

Another Democrat gets arrested for "assaulting" ICE agents.

NYC mayoral candidate detained by ICE

City Comptroller Brad Lander was detained by federal agents on Tuesday.

www.newsweek.com

I mean, look at the guy. Nothing screams "assaulting armed agents" like a guy who looks like he'd get winded going up a flight of stairs.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

Ted Cruz just revealed live that (despite what the Trump admin says, shocker), we are directly helping Israel bomb Iran.

Sad that this tooth had to be pulled by Tucker Carlson of all people, but hey.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Another Democrat gets arrested for "assaulting" ICE agents.

NYC mayoral candidate detained by ICE

City Comptroller Brad Lander was detained by federal agents on Tuesday.

www.newsweek.com

I mean, look at the guy. Nothing screams "assaulting armed agents" like a guy who looks like he'd get winded going up a flight of stairs.

One wonders what they'd do if the next one actually assaults them (possibly after reasoning they'd arrest them anyway). Charge them with "no really, they actually did assault ICE for reals this time"?

 

[thebobmaster]

One wonders what they'd do if the next one actually assaults them (possibly after reasoning they'd arrest them anyway). Charge them with "no really, they actually did assault ICE for reals this time"?

Terrorism charges for attacking a government agent.

 

[BrawlMan]

I love it when Trump and his cronies get fucked over good.
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[Dirty Hipsters]