Funny events in anti-woke world

[Casual Shinji]

I have to say though, this whole Charlie Kirk getting killed really put a damper on the 9/11 anniversary.

 

[Hades]

You're correct. It's a cult. The left has turned their supporters into people who think anyone and everyone who disagrees with them is a facist nazi. They tell everyone that ANYONE on the right is evil, homophobic, racist, sexist, facist, nazis, and then people are surprised that some gassed up brainwashed hormone riddled confused kid pulls a trigger?

Weird. I have never heard leftist say this about Rutte, Merkel or Cameron and while one or two loons in America might called called Romney or McCain that its not the prevelent opinion on the left.

Maybe Trump and his ilk get that reputation because they deliberately foster it? They chose to be anti democratic far right demagogues. And unfortunately the most famous examples of that political leaning were the Nazi party. Why should that be anyone else's fault? Trump could always have run as an actual politician or attempted to be a statesmen. He refused and instead has never left his position of a far right demagogue.

Even with this shooting. Why should the other side carry the blame of Trump being a far right demagogue? They didn't chose that. They didn't force Kirk at knifepoint to endorse it. What you're asking for is that the world should remain silent as the radicals tear down democracy to replace it with authoritarianism and extreme corruption.

 

[tstorm823]

This place has degenerated into a den of actual radical lefties cheering for death. Like, bruh.

For all the shit I see of people being taken by ICE and being sent to Hell or treated like prisoners of war, I've heard *nothing* about organized resistance.

It always has been. People tiptoed the rules for years, but that's all it ever was, self-interested ban avoidance.

They have no organized resistance because they don't really believe those things are actually happening to resist. They only think that America is going to fascism in as much as it justifies their hatred, it's not a real belief. It's just a game where the prize is the dopamine hit of righteous anger.

Obviously some exceptions apply, but all the users regularly hitting like on all each other's posts (scroll up for more details) not only do not believe what they say, they don't care what they believe, they will attach themselves to whichever "truth" tells them they are moral to wish death on others.

 

[Hades]

Seems Brazil did what America refused to do by actually convicting their coup doing traitor. Seems it may be America that's the banana republic. I hope every clown who kept handling Trump with kid gloves because he was an aristocrat realizes in what better state the world would be in if they had done their duty.

Brazil's former President Bolsonaro found guilty of coup plot

The right-wing former leader could be sentenced to decades in prison after he was convicted by Brazil's Supreme Court.

www.bbc.com

 

[Hades]

They only think that America is going to fascism in as much as it justifies their hatred, it's not a real belief. It's just a game where the prize is the dopamine hit of righteous anger.

Or they see Trump having the exact same traits and ideals as Putin, Orban and Erdogan, and rightfully wonder why Trump alone wouldn’t try to curtail democracy.

Or remember he did a coup

 

[Phoenixmgs]

its not the prevelent opinion on the left.

Maybe Trump and his ilk get that reputation because they deliberately foster it? They chose to be anti democratic far right demagogues.

Just like any group, the extreme sub-part of it has the loudest voices. You do realize you are in the minority of the country if you didn't vote for Trump, right? Why do you think the left politicians aren't demagogues? 90+% of all politicians "seek support by appealing to the desires and prejudices of ordinary people rather than by using rational argument".

 

[tippy2k2]

Gerry Duggan (@gerryduggan.bsky.social)

Kirk getting shot wasn't even the last school shooting today - there was one since: https://coloradosun.com/2025/09/10/evergreen-active-assailant-colorado/

bsky.app

Amending my previous post about the number of school shootings. And as far as Kirk getting shot, I approve of this the most. He wasn't special, he's a school shooting statistic.

 

[Hades]

Just like any group, the extreme sub-part of it has the loudest voices. You do realize you are in the minority of the country if you didn't vote for Trump, right? Why do you think the left politicians aren't demagogues? 90+% of all politicians "seek support by appealing to the desires and prejudices of ordinary people rather than by using rational argument".

First off in my country I absolutely wouldn't be in the minority but that would be too cheap an argument. I'd just point out that your wrong. Combining the non voters and the non Trump voters would outnumber the Trump voters. That's not even a particular dig at Trump. That's just how it almost always goes. Its also worth noting that last election was the singular time he ever got anything resembling public aproval.

The problem with Republicans is that the most extreme sub part doesn't just has the loudest voice, but also their butt planted in the White House. The more moderates ones have long been chased away or mutated into MAGA.

As for what differentiates freaks like Trump from real politicians. Scale, frequency and the amount of harm they're willing to inflict I suppose. Some politicians indeed ''seek support by appealing to desires and prejudices rather than use rational arguments' some of the time,' but they don't all do it literally all the time, or seek to advance themselves at the expense of the state as they do so. Demagogues on the whole are also more exploitative, and are everything bad about a typical politician's sales pitch but then on steroids. Typically a normal politician taking advantage of pre existing feelings also don't wip their audience into a frenzy or unleashes wild levels of radicalization.

A practical case study would be Trump's behavior after his election defeat.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

First off in my country I absolutely wouldn't be in the minority but that would be too cheap an argument. I'd just point out that your wrong. Combining the non voters and the non Trump voters would outnumber the Trump voters. That's not even a particular dig at Trump. That's just how it almost always goes. Its also worth noting that last election was the singular time he ever got anything resembling public aproval.

The problem with Republicans is that the most extreme sub part doesn't just has the loudest voice, but also their butt planted in the White House. The more moderates ones have long been chased away or mutated into MAGA.

As for what differentiates freaks like Trump from real politicians. Scale, frequency and the amount of harm they're willing to inflict I suppose. Some politicians indeed ''seek support by appealing to desires and prejudices rather than use rational arguments' some of the time,' but they don't all do it literally all the time, or seek to advance themselves at the expense of the state as they do so. Demagogues on the whole are also more exploitative, and are everything bad about a typical politician's sales pitch but then on steroids. Typically a normal politician taking advantage of pre existing feelings also don't wip their audience into a frenzy or unleashes wild levels of radicalization.

A practical case study would be Trump's behavior after his election defeat.

You can probably say no president ever had the majority vote because if you add up non-voters, then I doubt a majority has ever voted for any president. But the people that vote are a pretty massive sample size that should extend out to the non-voters (if they were to have voted). Trump and Biden's approval ratings are very very similar, you'd have to actually do the math to find who had the better overall approval when in office.

Trump isn't nearly as extreme as you all make him out to be. Currently, the thing the left is most upset about is immigration, and it's basically 80/20 issue historically and even today, it still is basically. That's not very extreme. It's pretty hypocritical that blue states think they can just make up their own immigration rules while if red states aren't allowed to make their own immigration laws (since, you know, that's a federal thing), the left would shit themselves.



Democrats are more exploitative than republicans, I know I'm getting with republicans. Whereas democrats will make policy that they claim will do all this wonderful stuff but it ends up being massively worse than the status quo.

NOT DEFENDING TRUMP (I really don't like Trump, which ya'll don't believe me for some reason, I voted for Chase Oliver), but look at the democrat behavior after Trump won in 2016. Did the republicans try to remove Biden from ballots like the democrats did for Trump? Did the republicans endlessly try to remove Biden from office and make up court cases to try him on? Actions do lead to opposite reactions; again, not that that absolves said reactions but it definitely has a hand in them.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

What am I saying? None of you have the balls to do anything.

Wait, which is it? We're all psychopaths hunting down conservatives, or we're too scared to do anything? You can't have it both ways, buckaroo.

This didn't take long: After the Supreme Court says that it's perfectly okay for ICE to detain people and confiscate their property because they're brown, Trump has started an initiative to get more white immigrants into the country.

Trump admin seeks to help boost white immigration to the U.S. after false ‘genocide’ claims

The U.S. Embassy in South Africa announced plans for a group that represents white South Africans to help refer immigrants for settlement in America.

www.msnbc.com

Can conservatives stop pretending that this is anything but "get rid of the brown people and replace them with white people"?

 

[Silvanus]

...and that's why we should globally ban Salinger's To Kill a Mockingbird and Stephen King's Rage, right? Both have been connected to several murders, with the latter specifically to a least 5 school shootings. Clearly they act as a gateway to horrific violence. I could probably add a few more books to the pyre likewise, but those were the first two to come to mind.

Oh, and the Payday games, since at least one actual bank robbery after it's release involved robbers mimicking the default look of the Payday crew.

Oh, and this is also the core argument of Collective Shout and so many other censors before them (wannabe or otherwise) - depictions of a thing acting as gateways to some proposed harm. See Jack Thompson, or Tipper Gore, or Hillary Clinton (the version of her from the 90s, because she changes dramatically every decade or so).

I assume you're not actually directing that "right?" to me, because I made it abundantly clear I don't believe any such thing.

 

[laggyteabag]

You're correct. It's a cult. The left has turned their supporters into people who think anyone and everyone who disagrees with them is a facist nazi. They tell everyone that ANYONE on the right is evil, homophobic, racist, sexist, facist, nazis, and then people are surprised that some gassed up brainwashed hormone riddled confused kid pulls a trigger?

I guess they aren't surprised because an awful fucking lot of them seem quite happy right about now. YAY kids get to grow up without a dad! Fuck his wife, and kids.

Ya'll are the same people who were happy a random firefighter got killed at a Trump rally, because he shouldn't have been a conservative so fuck him I guess.

As an aside, I would just like to as how you can look at the Republican party, then look at the Democrats (or the Left in general) and then point your finger at the Left and say they're the problem, and they're the cult?

• Trump has an army of followers all marching around wearing his merch, and waving his flags - all year round, I might add - who will do pretty much anything he asks, up to, and including staging an insurrection on January 6th to overthrow the results of a democratic election. All of which he pardoned as soon as he got back into power, including known members of known far-right groups like the Proud Boys, or those who were actually convicted of assaulting police officers.
• Currently, Trump's government is ordering the literal Army to occupy American cities that don't bow down to his policies.
• Absolutist supporters of the 2nd Amendment, which has repeatedly allowed for multiple mass shootings over the decades, with zero progress or attempts towards a solution other than meaningless "thoughts and prayers".
• All of the Republican's current policies are tied to a misinterpretation of the Christian faith, and are using those beliefs as a weapon to take away women's reproductive rights, make it as hard as possible for transgender and LGB people to *exist*, and demonise basically anyone who isn't straight, amd white, and preferably a male.
• If you are an immigrant, homeless, or some other identity that the Trump government finds to be undesirable, then you will be literally picked off of the street, and taken to an internment camp as you await either deportation or jail.
• Trump's government has harassed allies with tariffs, and threatened military invasions of allied lands.
• Trump and his government have popularised what I have heard called the "post-truth" era, where he has demonised the media, and undermined literal facts with what he has coined "fake news" or "alternative facts".

And that is just all I can remember that has happened in the past few months.

Now, I don't know how much you know about history, but there are an awful lot of parallels there between modern America, and Nazi Germany. And you might think that is a hyperbole, and you might say something like "well where are the death camps then?", but I would say that the Nazi party didn't just arrive at the height of their power, they started out small, and grew over time, using many of the exact same tactics that the current and 2016-2020 US government used. I don't think the US will ever get to the point of exterminating people, but they have definitely started down a treacherous road.

So when you you question why people are possibly getting angry, I would personally ask if you have been paying attention, or if you're just happy that this system benefits you, and only people who look like you.

Honestly, it really doesn't matter what you point at the left for having done, or supposedly done. Because if this is the side that you support, or at least you don't oppose, then im afraid you lost the moral high ground forever, on approximately January 6th 2021.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

or if you're just happy that this system benefits you, and only people who look like you.

Anyone who feels this way is an imbecile. "Us vs. them" is always a contracting circle, and when you get rid of "them" but your problems don't go away, well, it's time to find another "them" to blame. It won't be long before "are you white" becomes "are you white enough".

 

[laggyteabag]

Anyone who feels this way is an imbecile. "Us vs. them" is always a contracting circle, and when you get rid of "them" but your problems don't go away, well, it's time to find another "them" to blame. It won't be long before "are you white" becomes "are you white enough".

My sister is like this. She is gay, but steadfastly anti-trans. She supports the far-right party here in the UK, and attends public anti-trans rallies that are literally also attended by neo-nazis.

Say she gets what she wants, and trans people disappear, it'll be people like her that they come for next, but I don't think she quite sees that.

Marginalised groups need to stick together, because chances are the people coming after one, with come after the rest soon enough. Turning on each other and trying to appear as "one of the good ones" wont satisfy their bloodlust once you're in their sights.

 

[tippy2k2]

My sister is like this. She is gay, but steadfastly anti-trans. She supports the far-right party here in the UK, and attends public anti-trans rallies that are literally also attended by neo-nazis.

Say she gets what she wants, and trans people disappear, it'll be people like her that they come for next, but I don't think she quite sees that.

Marginalised groups need to stick together, because chances are the people coming after one, with come after the rest soon enough. Turning on each other and trying to appear as "one of the good ones" wont satisfy their bloodlust once you're in their sights.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

Marginalised groups need to stick together, because chances are the people coming after one, with come after the rest soon enough. Turning on each other and trying to appear as "one of the good ones" wont satisfy their bloodlust once you're in their sights.

https://www.financialexpress.com/trending/migration-without-assimilation-is-indian-man-booed-shoved-at-anti-immigration-protest-in-australia/3966617/

 

[Mister Mumbler]

So while everyone is whinging over some dumb podcaster buying it for his cause, not only did Republicans move to block the Epstein files, they also moved to bar any blocks to genuine tratior to our country Ashli Babbit from receiving military funeral honors.

Gallego calls Jan. 6 rioter Ashli Babbitt ‘traitor’ in failed bid to block military funeral honors

Sen. Ruben Gallego tried but failed Wednesday to block military funeral honors for Ashli Babbitt, the Jan. 6 rioter killed by police keeping the mob out of the U.S. House.

www.kjzz.org

And the left is who we should be worried about, lol

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

I can't wait to find out that Charlie Kirk was assassinated by a conservative for his about-face and downplaying of the Epstein files.

 

[Casual Shinji]

I don't think the US will ever get to the point of exterminating people, but they have definitely started down a treacherous road.

Considering how cops in America have functioned for decades and the prison industrial system, one could say they were already exterminating people before Trump even got into politics.

I can't wait to find out that Charlie Kirk was assassinated by a conservative for his about-face and downplaying of the Epstein files.

Truth didn't matter much pre-Kirk's death, it is DEFINITELY not going to matter post. The MAGA nazi's got their hate boner on after 8 months of tepidly waddling in their election victory, and no amount of facts is going to disturb that.

 

[Thaluikhain]

You guys can all get shot for all I care.

Ah, see, now imagine that reaction to someone of great people and influence trying to harm people getting shot, and maybe extend it a little.

Not sure where you are going with criticising people happy that an objectively bad person was killed for not taking direct action themselves, though.

EDIT: Ok, in retrospect, I'm not going to change your mind on this, but Kirk was a terrible person actively trying to cause harm to innocent people, people being glad he's not around to do that anymore doesn't seem abhorrent to me. Yes, you can argue that Trump et al will use this as an excuse to ramp up what they were doing, but that seemed inevitable regardless.

If this is correct, the dumbass did it explicitly as a 'transgender thing', and has now secured that talking point for all fucking time. Thanks for that. Really helpful.

I'm led to believe the "transgender ideology" engraved was "TRN", which stands for Turan, a major Turkish ammunition manufacturer.