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ICE is using appropriate force to bring down the worst of the worst, ultra-violent offenders like.. fifteen-year-old girls.


I'm sure she said she had a knife or something. That justifies everything, right, @Dwarvenhobble?
Modern day Gestapo in the US.

The tough question that the US faces here is how to deal with these people and everyone that enabled their behaviour?

In order to regain some semblance of normalcy the US needs to undergo denazification as Germany did post-WW2. However, this was forced upon Germany by the Allies post their defeat.

Who is going to force this upon America though?
 
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And this of course requires kneeling on peoples' necks, right?

Well you asked, from of all places the AP


And the Guardian


Is it good?

I'd say upper back / shoulder would be better from a safety perspective but it's one of the control points in martial arts as such the head / neck being controlled allows a pretty high degree if not one of the highest degrees of control so it's effectiveness is hard to deny.
 

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Well you asked, from of all places the AP


And the Guardian


Is it good?

I'd say upper back / shoulder would be better from a safety perspective but it's one of the control points in martial arts as such the head / neck being controlled allows a pretty high degree if not one of the highest degrees of control so it's effectiveness is hard to deny.
Keep on licking those boots.
 
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In order to regain some semblance of normalcy the US needs to undergo denazification as Germany did post-WW2. However, this was forced upon Germany by the Allies post their defeat.

Who is going to force this upon America though?
One might also mention that the denazification quietly overlooked a lot of people working for the Nazis who were needed in post war Germany. Apparently that's where the idea that it was just the SS committing atrocities comes from, to blame them for the lot and let others off the noose.
 
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Oh my goodness.

So, Peter Thiel, multibillionaire investor, co-founder of Paypal and owner of Palantir, thinks Greta Thunberg might be the antichrist. Okay, he probably kind of doesn't, but he's created a lecture series based off the style of his old university professor which essentially says everything he doesn't believe in is the antichrist. It is, predictably, pretty batshit. The snippets smuggled out also appear to be... just so dull. There's appears to precious little insight here, just some guy dressing up his personal beliefs in the garb of the metaphysical.

Why dooes our world have to be run by such fucking cranks?

Thiel is in many ways a very clever man. But like many of his ilk, he lacks or has lost humility, and deludes himself into thinking his competence continues outside his field. It's not just how incredibly questionable it is to somehow meld the slightly crazier fringes of religion with his personal belief system, but of course the world-shaking vanity of the man to not think that anything he believes in might be the antichrist. The world has no end of tawdry powermongers who have used the spiritual to provide a justification for their temporal ambitions, whether that's ancient and medieval potentates funding places of worship or modern leaders ostentatiously displaying piety for easy popularity.

For instance, he appears to dislike billionaires giving away their money. He does so whilst claiming he is an orthodox (small o) Christian, but has he not read all those passages in the Bible where Jesus says that's what good people do? That's a pretty depressing view of an orthodox Christian, someone who just misses out all the bits inconvenient to them. I like to think Christians with humility would read, think and learn - but as above, humility is definitely not Thiel's thing.

And isn't this pretty much the worst part of religion? The average religion actually has some really good stuff in it. If you really did try to live your life like Jesus your neighbours would probably think you were great (minus maybe the proselytising which could be quite grating). It's a moral code for a good society. And then you get people like Thiel, who instead of thinking about the moral questions posed of them and suggested guidance for personal conduct, latch on to the kooky apocalyptic mumbo-jumbo to tell everyone who disagrees with them they are going to hell: or in Thiel's case, calling them the antichrist.
 

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One might also mention that the denazification quietly overlooked a lot of people working for the Nazis who were needed in post war Germany. Apparently that's where the idea that it was just the SS committing atrocities comes from, to blame them for the lot and let others off the noose.
One might also mention that Germany is starting to relapse right now, not even a hundred years after the war.

Of course those are not necessarily related, what's happening here is also happening in most other countries, regardless of whether they were fascist, fighting fascism or victims of fascism.
 

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Modern day Gestapo in the US.

The tough question that the US faces here is how to deal with these people and everyone that enabled their behaviour?

In order to regain some semblance of normalcy the US needs to undergo denazification as Germany did post-WW2. However, this was forced upon Germany by the Allies post their defeat.

Who is going to force this upon America though?
well for one every ICE agent and especially the creepy Elon jugend need to have their conduct recorded so they can be procecuted for any crime once there is a real government again. If there’s even the smallest of leaks thanks to the malicious conduct of the Elon jugend they should pay severely for it, any any ICE agent found wounding their victims should be fired.

As for who can denazify the US. Well Europe and Canada are about the last bastions of the democratic rule based and free world. That’s why that piece of filth Vance hates us.
 

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Oh my goodness.

So, Peter Thiel, multibillionaire investor, co-founder of Paypal and owner of Palantir, thinks Greta Thunberg might be the antichrist. Okay, he probably kind of doesn't, but he's created a lecture series based off the style of his old university professor which essentially says everything he doesn't believe in is the antichrist. It is, predictably, pretty batshit. The snippets smuggled out also appear to be... just so dull. There's appears to precious little insight here, just some guy dressing up his personal beliefs in the garb of the metaphysical.

Why dooes our world have to be run by such fucking cranks?

Thiel is in many ways a very clever man. But like many of his ilk, he lacks or has lost humility, and deludes himself into thinking his competence continues outside his field. It's not just how incredibly questionable it is to somehow meld the slightly crazier fringes of religion with his personal belief system, but of course the world-shaking vanity of the man to not think that anything he believes in might be the antichrist. The world has no end of tawdry powermongers who have used the spiritual to provide a justification for their temporal ambitions, whether that's ancient and medieval potentates funding places of worship or modern leaders ostentatiously displaying piety for easy popularity.

For instance, he appears to dislike billionaires giving away their money. He does so whilst claiming he is an orthodox (small o) Christian, but has he not read all those passages in the Bible where Jesus says that's what good people do? That's a pretty depressing view of an orthodox Christian, someone who just misses out all the bits inconvenient to them. I like to think Christians with humility would read, think and learn - but as above, humility is definitely not Thiel's thing.

And isn't this pretty much the worst part of religion? The average religion actually has some really good stuff in it. If you really did try to live your life like Jesus your neighbours would probably think you were great (minus maybe the proselytising which could be quite grating). It's a moral code for a good society. And then you get people like Thiel, who instead of thinking about the moral questions posed of them and suggested guidance for personal conduct, latch on to the kooky apocalyptic mumbo-jumbo to tell everyone who disagrees with them they are going to hell: or in Thiel's case, calling them the antichrist.
Yeah, I was posting these interviews here a whiles back when they happened, wondering why nobody seemed interested at the time. Mayhaps a different messenger can improve exposure. He's been a useful litmus test for what we should expect - and hopefully plan strategies to minimise harm - from the various anarcho capitalist billionaires infesting most governments as we trundle grimly toward future's cataclysmic void: mostly cos he's so uniquely terrible and incompetent on the public stage he's more an open book than the rest of them. A sweaty bug-eyed gurning necronomicom of a book, but an open one nonetheless. Also let nobody forget Thiel Is (and has been as long as I've known of him) obsessed with trying to live forever too, which ain't a religious person's anxiety - it's the neurotic anxiety of hedonistic nihilists. which usually wouldn't throw shade upon if they kept themselves to themselves and indulged their issues firmly within the arts, but Peter is clearly determined to make himself everyone else's problem at any cost.
 
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Yeah, I was posting these interviews here a whiles back when they happened, wondering why nobody seemed interested at the time. Mayhaps a different messenger can improve exposure. He's been a useful litmus test for what we should expect - and hopefully plan strategies to minimise harm - from the various anarcho capitalist billionaires infesting most governments as we trundle grimly toward future's cataclysmic void: mostly cos he's so uniquely terrible and incompetent on the public stage he's more an open book than the rest of them. A sweaty bug-eyed gurning necronomicom of a book, but an open one nonetheless. Also let nobody forget Thiel Is (and has been as long as I've known of him) obsessed with trying to live forever too, which ain't a religious person's anxiety - it's the neurotic anxiety of hedonistic nihilists. which usually wouldn't throw shade upon if they kept themselves to themselves and indulged their issues firmly within the arts, but Peter is clearly determined to make himself everyone else's problem at any cost.
Honestly, I think if any of these guys find a way to live forever, the first thing I suggest we do is hunt them down and kill them. The human race is not ready for immortality.

And if that's immortality as a software upload, that they are declared dead and are not permitted property rights or any other significant legal status. And if someone tries to change that so these virtual dead can own property, we hunt down and switch off their hardware.
 

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Honestly, I think if any of these guys find a way to live forever, the first thing I suggest we do is hunt them down and kill them. The human race is not ready for immortality.

And if that's immortality as a software upload, that they are declared dead and are not permitted property rights or any other significant legal status. And if someone tries to change that so these virtual dead can own property, we hunt down and switch off their hardware.
I’m rapidly becoming not entirely unsympathetic to the Roman solution to treasonous oligarchs which was for the state to hunt them down and take their stuff.
 

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I’m rapidly becoming not entirely unsympathetic to the Roman solution to treasonous oligarchs which was for the state to hunt them down and take their stuff.
Or maybe reintroduce decimation. When a bunch of execs fuck up, throw 10 of them in a room with a gun with one bullet or some other lethal implement, and tell them they can't leave until one of them is dead.

EDIT: huge oversight, but apply the same to politicians.
 
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You finding excuses for the use of excessive force is what makes you a boot licker in this instance.
Right because you can tell magically 100% the full context and what happened to lead to the cars chasing the person down beforehand to know that said force was unjustifiably used.

What if they'd just followed her from a store robbery?

What if they'd just followed her from a stabbing?

We don't even know if she's 15 and only have her word for even that.

But no you 100% know she's 15 had done no wrong and the evil agents jumped her for no reason........... just like your side absolutely knew it was MAGA goons that jumped Jussie Smollett
 
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Right because you can tell magically 100% the full context and what happened to lead to the cars chasing the person down beforehand to know that said force was unjustifiably used.

What if they'd just followed her from a store robbery?

What if they'd just followed her from a stabbing?

We don't even know if she's 15 and only have her word for even that.

But no you 100% know she's 15 had done no wrong and the evil agents jumped her for no reason........... just like your side absolutely knew it was MAGA goons that jumped Jussie Smollett
To counter that: What if they just pulled her over for the crime of driving while the wrong skin color? But no, you 100% know that she had to have done something wrong to justify the use of force, and can magically 100% tell the context and what happened to lead to the cars chasing her down beforehand to know that the use of force was justifiable.
 

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To counter that: What if they just pulled her over for the crime of driving while the wrong skin color? But no, you 100% know that she had to have done something wrong to justify the use of force, and can magically 100% tell the context and what happened to lead to the cars chasing her down beforehand to know that the use of force was justifiable.
No it's called wating for more evidence.


Then again with how the left recently pushed the claim ICE had arrested a 6 year old girl complete with video............. turns out it wasn't ICE but local police and the person in question was a 27 year old woman not a 6 year old girl picked up for Jaywalking into oncoming traffic and was picked up, for her own safety because she was jaywalking into oncoming traffic I'm not surprise the with the hostility that I refused to jump to a specific conclusion and put forward other options.
 

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Yeah, I wanted to see how far you'll deepthroat fascism. Turns out you'll go down to the root so long as the knee's not on your neck.
Fascism is when you refuse to shoot first and as questions later.

Oh well

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