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As predicted the VVD(Dutch Tories) only suffering a slight loss and their dreadful leader Yezilgoz surviving massively complicated the formation of a new coalition. Despite having lost seats, and in general having lost a quarter of their vote share since the Rutte days the VVD adopted a winner's arrogance. Since they're needed for a new coalition they use this to forbid practically every coalition option except those they want.
Have to be very careful of their likes.

Parties like that may be much reduced, but they tend to retain a lot of experience in how to navigate the halls of power. Many newer parties have plenty to learn and to acclimatise to, and need to be careful of that sort of vicious old ghouls.
 

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China can't just take over Taiwan overnight, it would require a sustained military build-up which would almost certainly be observed and mirrored by Taiwan and its allies. An assault will meet a prepared defence. The Japanese PM has literally just commented that Japan could come to Taiwan's aid in the event of conflict.
Right, but all this goes double for the putative alliance of pacific nations you mentioned. This was sort of my point. If they ever attempted to surround China by way of Taiwan, it would require a drawn out process, to which China could respond quicker. Making a 'preventative' invasion for that reason unnecessary and more likely to create risk than head it off.

People are mostly the same, no countries and the people within are that different. Countries use the tools available to them to achieve their aims. The more powerful a nation's military, the more likely that it will be used a tool to achieve their aims.
These are extremely broad and nonspecific statements that don't do the heavy lifting required to make the case for this specific scenario. Not every feasible invasion happens, which means there are other considerations than "we can".

Anyone powerful enough will get away with anything, like the USA did invading Iraq. Russia has come off much worse from invading Ukraine, but so far has not faced critical losses. Israel is getting away mass murdering Palestinians because the USA protects it.
The USA 'got away with' invading Iraq, and yet its occupation was considered such a misjudgement that the political mood in the UK and US swung definitively against lengthy foreign occupations.
 

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Right, but all this goes double for the putative alliance of pacific nations you mentioned. This was sort of my point. If they ever attempted to surround China by way of Taiwan, it would require a drawn out process, to which China could respond quicker. Making a 'preventative' invasion for that reason unnecessary and more likely to create risk than head it off.
That's not how an aggressive, imperialist state thinks. They see a key strategic point that benefits them and prevents its use against them by their enemies, they take it. They don't hope for the best. China's previous and ongoing activities already demonstrate its ruthlessness in pursuit of territorial ideology and strategic advantage (Tibet, South China Sea). It is inconsistent to imagine that China is then going to let Taiwan stand on pinky promises of good behaviour.

The threat to China is in large part interdiction of shipping (and maybe flights). But this is very different from China invading a large island, and it simply doesn't follow that China could "react faster" by invading Taiwan. How this would work is that a Pacific alliance would form as a mutual defence alliance to dissuade China from invading any of them. But once they exist and if they could protect each other, they may also be able to blockade China.

These are extremely broad and nonspecific statements that don't do the heavy lifting required to make the case for this specific scenario. Not every feasible invasion happens, which means there are other considerations than "we can".
We are talking about a forecast of what might or might not occur, therefore we need to consider the sorts of factors that influence decision-making. The fact that countries with powerful militaries tend to use their militaries has obvious relevance.

The USA 'got away with' invading Iraq, and yet its occupation was considered such a misjudgement that the political mood in the UK and US swung definitively against lengthy foreign occupations.
But so what? A couple of decades of heightened public opposition to military action is cheap compared to conquering a major military and political strategic target China can keep for centuries.
 

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The USA 'got away with' invading Iraq, and yet its occupation was considered such a misjudgement that the political mood in the UK and US swung definitively against lengthy foreign occupations.
Because they lost and because the ones doing the war had lost popularity as a result. Trump and his deranged cult proved things changed very little. Trump repeating Bush era talking point to justify maybe taking over Gaza was endorsed by his party and whenever Trump talks about starting new wars his cult is quick to defend it. Though not everyone with Greene of all people being a ''true believer''

But for the most I don't think the morality or even the cost of the wars was what soured them. It was the shame of this having resulted in defeat. In their hearts of heart they were fine with the suffering and waste of the wars and they'll not be difficult over a war they expect to win.
 

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The far right has discovered Metroid Prime 4 and has been posting hate videos about it. Why? Because it made the bad choice of adding ''Marvel characters'' which makes it an easy mark. After all Marvel means woke and woke means BAD. Complaining about Metroid ''getting Hollywood writers'' is a good way to chore up their far right credentials.

Have to be very careful of their likes.

Parties like that may be much reduced, but they tend to retain a lot of experience in how to navigate the halls of power. Many newer parties have plenty to learn and to acclimatise to, and need to be careful of that sort of vicious old ghouls.
Case in point being Poland where PIS managed to enforce their will on the media, courts and even the presidency so that they could permanently cripple the new government after having to leave power, and thus making their return to power inevitable. I expect Hungary will suffer a similar fate if Orban ever loses power. After all pretty much every media source in the country has been bought by Orban's cronies.

As for the VVD, its always amazing to see just how tight their grip over national media has always been. Its been charted how much talk shows invite certain politicians and it turns out the VVD get invited so much more often than their peers that the difference is downright titanic. In the chart their arrow is up the very ceiling while all the others hover around the bottom or midpoint.
 

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That's not how an aggressive, imperialist state thinks. They see a key strategic point that benefits them and prevents its use against them by their enemies, they take it. They don't hope for the best. China's previous and ongoing activities already demonstrate its ruthlessness in pursuit of territorial ideology and strategic advantage (Tibet, South China Sea). It is inconsistent to imagine that China is then going to let Taiwan stand on pinky promises of good behaviour.
Tibet was >70 years ago and direct battle involved just a few hundred at the time; South China Sea confrontations have resulted in a handfull of injuries and damaged ships over decades.

More comparable would be the last time the PRC fought another nation with a full standing army-- Vietnam. They could have conquered Vietnam. They withdrew of their own accord after a month when the casualties reached the thousands and it threatened to rupture their international relationships.

We are talking about a forecast of what might or might not occur, therefore we need to consider the sorts of factors that influence decision-making. The fact that countries with powerful militaries tend to use their militaries has obvious relevance.
Of course it does. But generalisations are of limited value in the face of contextual information.

America has a powerful military. Countries with powerful militaries tend to use them. Does it therefore follow that invasion of Canada, Mexico, the UK etc is inevitable? Of course not. Context matters, and most possible invasions don't happen.
 
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But for the most I don't think the morality or even the cost of the wars was what soured them. It was the shame of this having resulted in defeat. In their hearts of heart they were fine with the suffering and waste of the wars and they'll not be difficult over a war they expect to win.
On a related note, contrary to popular belief nowdays, the anti-war sentiment during the Vietnam war was more anti a long war with no end in sight. If it looked like victory was in sight, things would have been different.
 

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Key Points
  • The claim "vaccines do not cause autism" is not an evidence-based claim because studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines cause autism.
  • Studies supporting a link have been ignored by health authorities.
  • HHS has launched a comprehensive assessment of the causes of autism, including investigations on plausible biologic mechanisms and potential causal links.
The absence of evidence that vaccines give you superpowers is evidence in itself that they do.
 

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The absence of evidence that vaccines give you superpowers is evidence in itself that they do.
The CDC has tons of pages with erroneous information on them. The following page has caused more harm than this, yet you guys won't criticize it.
 

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The CDC has tons of pages with erroneous information on them. The following page has caused more harm than this, yet you guys won't criticize it.
'You guys'? Pfft, lol. You're barking up the wrong tree there, buddy.
 

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Why post a CDC page you have issue with that is obviously a political issue yet ignore other CDC pages that are more harmful?
Oh, but that's the rub, innit. Beyond fodder for a joke, I don't care what your CDC says.
 
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Why post a CDC page you have issue with that is obviously a political issue yet ignore other CDC pages that are more harmful?
Funny how ramblings of bat shit crazy people are legitimised as being a "political issue".

VaCcInEs CaUsE aUtIsM.

Fucking American lunatics.