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And ice hockey is a game where a stick interacts with a puck. This, we shall call is stickpuck.
No, but it is hockey played on ice. And there's that game where people throw a ball into a basket. Or the one where people hit a ball and run to the next base. Funnily, these all have slightly different aspects of the game used for how their appropriately descriptive names have emerged without anyone being perplexed by the inconsistency.
 
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No, but it is hockey played on ice. And there's that game where people throw a ball into a basket. Or the one where people hit a ball and run to the next base. Funnily, these all have slightly different aspects of the game used for how their appropriately descriptive names have emerged without anyone being perplexed by the inconsistency.
Hockey is entirely its own word. The others definitely could also use improvement beyond the most basic compound words, but at least baskets and bases describe the field of play, not a body part.
 

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Hockey is entirely its own word. The others definitely could also use improvement beyond the most basic compound words, but at least baskets and bases describe the field of play, not a body part.
What's wrong with using a bodypart as part of the compound?
 

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Hockey is entirely its own word. The others definitely could also use improvement beyond the most basic compound words, but at least baskets and bases describe the field of play, not a body part.
But the aim of the game is to move the ball overwhelmingly with one's foot. Which is actually distinctive, considering virtually all other major sports involve moving a ball with hands, or a device held in the hands. That includes absurd forms of so-called "football" where the ball is preferentially carried and/or thrown.
 

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But the aim of the game is to move the ball overwhelmingly with one's foot. Which is actually distinctive, considering virtually all other major sports involve moving a ball with hands, or a device held in the hands. That includes absurd forms of so-called "football" where the ball is preferentially carried and/or thrown.
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This you? In 1909?
 

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Cringe. How is this guy the possible front-runner for 2028?
 

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But the aim of the game is to move the ball overwhelmingly with one's foot. Which is actually distinctive, considering virtually all other major sports involve moving a ball with hands, or a device held in the hands. That includes absurd forms of so-called "football" where the ball is preferentially carried and/or thrown.
Now all I’m wondering about is the etymology of the word “Hockey” for the sport.
 

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What's wrong with using a bodypart as part of the compound?
Because basically all sports use feet (and the rest of the body), which makes the name exceptionally broad. Like, it's an apt description of what the sport is, but there are a ton of other ways one could interface with feet and a ball that could also be described that way. Names like soccer, or hockey, or badminton, etc have never had the issue of too many sports being called the same thing.
 

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Because basically all sports use feet (and the rest of the body), which makes the name exceptionally broad. Like, it's an apt description of what the sport is, but there are a ton of other ways one could interface with feet and a ball that could also be described that way. Names like soccer, or hockey, or badminton, etc have never had the issue of too many sports being called the same thing.
Soccer is just an abbreviation of Association Football, though.
 

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Now all I’m wondering about is the etymology of the word “Hockey” for the sport.
According to wikipedia this is what we've got

The word hockey itself is of unknown origin. One supposition is that it is a derivative of hoquet, a Middle French word for a shepherd's stave.[7] The curved, or "hooked" ends of the sticks used for hockey would indeed have resembled these staves, and similar folk etymologies exist for the bat-and-ball sports of Croquet and Cricket.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey

So the implement/means of playing the game is, at least according to the folk etymology (that's a wonderful concept), still part of the naming convention.
 

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Soccer is just an abbreviation of Association Football, though.
Yes, and its unique and catchy. Almost everything has an etymology that goes back to basic words somehow, but they become their own word, not to be confused later.

Like, Nuzlocke is just a compound word of references, but it's become its own distinct word, much better than if they called it something like pokedeath challenge.
 

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Now all I’m wondering about is the etymology of the word “Hockey” for the sport.
It's assumed to come from the French word for a type of curved stick. "Croquet" is likewise thought to derive from the name of the stick used (think also a shepherd's crook), and "cricket" may also derive from the same root as croquet.
 

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I remain pretty pessimistic about the US. The likely scenario is that the Republicans will overturn democracy enough so that they can rule indefinably through the Orban method. But even if they fail then the US remains on the verge of being a hostile actor due to its electorate being so intensely unreliable.

Toppling US democracy and more importantly betraying and subjugating Europe are the pet projects of Trump and Vance. But its not really about those two. Trump us just a random mentally ill demagogue and Vance is just a random psychopath. That they are on their post is due to the American electorate voting for them to be on those positions despite having full knowledge of what freaks they were. Trump being unwilling and unable to govern was known by the US public, as was Trump doing a coup against the US. Despite knowing this the voters gave him another chance to do them harm. That's their problem, but they also knew Trump always wanted to betray Europe and they still voted for him to do that. Which makes their self inflicted problem our existential one.

Even if the US votes the Republicans out and things return to normalcy, then four years later some inbred folk in the swingstates can still randomly decide to go set everything on fire again just for the thrill of sticking it to ''the establishment'. 2016 might have been an accident or a glitch in the system. But 2024 proves that this is not the case and that its the American voters themselves that are to blame. The numerical majority proved themselves as ignorant, erratic, malicious and thoroughly ungrateful. The best we can expect of the US is some twisted Russian roulette they keep switching from dubious allies to freaks wanting to do their allies harm.
 

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I remain pretty pessimistic about the US. The likely scenario is that the Republicans will overturn democracy enough so that they can rule indefinably through the Orban method. But even if they fail then the US remains on the verge of being a hostile actor due to its electorate being so intensely unreliable.

Toppling US democracy and more importantly betraying and subjugating Europe are the pet projects of Trump and Vance. But its not really about those two. Trump us just a random mentally ill demagogue and Vance is just a random psychopath. That they are on their post is due to the American electorate voting for them to be on those positions despite having full knowledge of what freaks they were. Trump being unwilling and unable to govern was known by the US public, as was Trump doing a coup against the US. Despite knowing this the voters gave him another chance to do them harm. That's their problem, but they also knew Trump always wanted to betray Europe and they still voted for him to do that. Which makes their self inflicted problem our existential one.

Even if the US votes the Republicans out and things return to normalcy, then four years later some inbred folk in the swingstates can still randomly decide to go set everything on fire again just for the thrill of sticking it to ''the establishment'. 2016 might have been an accident or a glitch in the system. But 2024 proves that this is not the case and that its the American voters themselves that are to blame. The numerical majority proved themselves as ignorant, erratic, malicious and thoroughly ungrateful. The best we can expect of the US is some twisted Russian roulette they keep switching from dubious allies to freaks wanting to do their allies harm.
You live in a fantasy world. A nightmare fantasy world, completely disconnected from reality.
 
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I remain pretty pessimistic about the US. The likely scenario is that the Republicans will overturn democracy enough so that they can rule indefinably through the Orban method. But even if they fail then the US remains on the verge of being a hostile actor due to its electorate being so intensely unreliable.

Toppling US democracy and more importantly betraying and subjugating Europe are the pet projects of Trump and Vance. But its not really about those two. Trump us just a random mentally ill demagogue and Vance is just a random psychopath. That they are on their post is due to the American electorate voting for them to be on those positions despite having full knowledge of what freaks they were. Trump being unwilling and unable to govern was known by the US public, as was Trump doing a coup against the US. Despite knowing this the voters gave him another chance to do them harm. That's their problem, but they also knew Trump always wanted to betray Europe and they still voted for him to do that. Which makes their self inflicted problem our existential one.

Even if the US votes the Republicans out and things return to normalcy, then four years later some inbred folk in the swingstates can still randomly decide to go set everything on fire again just for the thrill of sticking it to ''the establishment'. 2016 might have been an accident or a glitch in the system. But 2024 proves that this is not the case and that its the American voters themselves that are to blame. The numerical majority proved themselves as ignorant, erratic, malicious and thoroughly ungrateful. The best we can expect of the US is some twisted Russian roulette they keep switching from dubious allies to freaks wanting to do their allies harm.
Ultimately the question will come down to how much economic damage the Trump admin will do, if it does get really bad, they maybe you could see some large change in population willingness to vote for the next Trump, but for now the people who voted Trump aren't really hurting, so they'd gladly do it again just to stick it to the man. Poll after poll show that they are really happy with the direction of the country. I don't see the media landscape changing at all, and with most communication channel drifting right ward, they'll stay in their little bubble and will be completely ignorant of any problem that doesn't directly affect them.

Even if somehow the GOP doesn't massively stack the deck in their favor, after every Jan 6th traitor were pardoned, I don't see a peaceful transfer of power being possible. Even then, SCOTUS will absolutely block anything the dem could possibly try to do (and the dem will forever remains useless and won't use the extreme power Trump amassed for the presidency to fix things).

Realistically the fix would require immense intervention in education and reform of the media and social media, something the democrat would never have the stomach to do (and which are pretty drastic). The most I could see is some extreme version of devolution, where the dem could hand over massive amount of power to the state (healthcare, wealth fare) while stooping the problem of rich blue states funding poor republican one, and let the republican live the way they constantly say they want to. The authoritarian fan are uneducated and pretty poor, so this would dis proportionally affect them, and maybe they'd wake up then, but it would probably be spinned as a democrat plot and would be reverse pretty quickly.

I don't think they care about europe at all, like I wouldn't be surprised if a large segment of his voter would have a hard time naming and pointing on a map the major european player. I just don't think they have the capacity to interact with other people outside of a weird domination play, either they're on top or on the bottom in their mind.
 

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Ultimately the question will come down to how much economic damage the Trump admin will do, if it does get really bad, they maybe you could see some large change in population willingness to vote for the next Trump, but for now the people who voted Trump aren't really hurting, so they'd gladly do it again just to stick it to the man. Poll after poll show that they are really happy with the direction of the country. I don't see the media landscape changing at all, and with most communication channel drifting right ward, they'll stay in their little bubble and will be completely ignorant of any problem that doesn't directly affect them.
And it doesn't matter if they are hurting, if they can blame someone else for it all.
 

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You live in a fantasy world. A nightmare fantasy world, completely disconnected from reality.
Oh so Vance doesn’t routinely expresses hatred for us? And they aren’t scheming to boost Russia against Ukraine? And they didn’t release that disgusting document last week?

Seems you’re the one living in a fantasy land
 

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and with most communication channel drifting right ward, they'll stay in their little bubble
You mean your bubble will burst.
the problem of rich blue states funding poor republican one
That's not really a thing. If you look at where money comes from and goes to, yes, blue states pay more in taxes proportionately and receive less in subsidies proportionately. If you look instead at why it is that way, blue states have all the shameless capitalism that you all hate, red states have more food and military work proportionately, things that are highly subsidized. It's not red states taking welfare, its blue states paying the red states for food and protection.
Oh so Vance doesn’t routinely expresses hatred for us? And they aren’t scheming to boost Russia against Ukraine? And they didn’t release that disgusting document last week?
Who is us? No, they aren't. You're going to have to be more specific, you could call any document disgusting since you spend all your time trying your hardest to be upset.
 

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Who is us? No, they aren't. You're going to have to be more specific, you could call any document disgusting since you spend all your time trying your hardest to be upset.
So you’re either being willfully ignorant or not paying attention. Pretty obvious I was regering to the strategy document where the traitors call for “resistance against Europe’s course” as well as plotting to weaken the EU.

Strange you didn’t seem to notice that freak Witkoff trying to force a false peace on Russia’s terms and opening Europe up far future invasions.
 
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