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You're either for free speech or you're not

If you get to pick and choose which free speech is allowed and which isn't, you're not for free speech

(I assume this is obvious but in case it's not, this is free speech that doesn't hurt people like yelling FIRE in a movie theater)

Musk is for free speech that is to his benefit, nothing more (it's probably just a coincidence that his free speech lets all the racist, sexist, white supremacy, transphobic ass clowns run wild)
I would reword that. Musk is not for free speech. He's using the word Free Speech as a bludgeon against his enemies.
 

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I would reword that. Musk is not for free speech. He's using the word Free Speech as a bludgeon against his enemies.
That's my entire point. Musk ISN'T for free speech but he's being held up as The Standard for being a free speech warrior.
 
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It looks like Trump's solution to high gas prices is "just steal oil from other countries".


Trump was later asked, "What happens to the oil on the ship?" And the president responded, "We keep it, I guess."
Because obviously it's going to terrorist organizations and stuff, and the world will be safer if it goes into American SUVs instead.
 

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It looks like Trump's solution to high gas prices is "just steal oil from other countries".




Because obviously it's going to terrorist organizations and stuff, and the world will be safer if it goes into American SUVs instead.
You know, every once in awhile Trump does something I approve of... kinda. Taking the Venezuelan tanker is dumb and pointless (just a few months ago he okay chevron restarting oil shipment) but seizing oil tanker is something that really should be explored more with Russia, between all the ship carrying out obviously illegal stuff (like cutting communication cable) and evading sanction, the world really stand by and passively let Putin get away with everything. Seizing a couple of the dark fleet tanker would be a pretty good idea (sell the oil and give the profit to Ukraine).
 

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You know, every once in awhile Trump does something I approve of... kinda.
I think that's almost exactly one of the things about Trump. Stuff here and there that you can really understand and get behind, except it's nearly all squandered in an overall package of incompetence, inconsistency, corruption, lies and bullshit. I love the fact he showed all those billionaires and big businesses who was boss... except rather than be used to interrogate excessive corporate power, it was all just so he could extract cash and favours for himself and his mates.

He's even at it now over Warner Bros. He's dead right that there's a massive problem with Netflix taking over WBD, except that he's not so much talking about principles of excessive concentration of media power and why this might be bad for the industry, but who his mates are and that CNN needs to start singing his praises.
 
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?!?!?!?

I am shocked. SHOCKED! But hey, maybe come December the Republicans will change their minds and vote for it then since that's what Democrats "negotiated" to get after a 40+ day shutdown...
I have some shocking news!


Republicans did not change their minds. The 8 Democrats sold out and got jack shit in return for it. GGEZ.
 

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Speaking of Obamacare
I mean, yeah, just bootstrap harder. Is that really so bad? And suppose you work yourself to death to stay alive, at least you created value for your betters.
 
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Speaking of Obamacare
I mean, yeah, just bootstrap harder. Is that really so bad? And suppose you work yourself to death to stay alive, at least you created value for your betters.
I want to see the billions of dollars go to the people, not the insurance companies,” the president continued. “I want to see the people go out and buy themselves great healthcare. Much better healthcare at very little cost.

Great - let's hold him to that.

Americans go get healthcare as and when they need it, and when they get handed a bill, the government gives them the money to cover it! You heard it, socialised healthcare, from the president's own lips.

And you can't imagine those lips lying, can you?
 
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Speaking of Obamacare
I mean, yeah, just bootstrap harder. Is that really so bad? And suppose you work yourself to death to stay alive, at least you created value for your betters.
Trump does have a bit of a point in dismissing questions about this. The electorate was asked if they wanted healthcare last election and they said ''Oh god no! Lets just make Trump president to get back at Biden for imagined slights we can't even explain to ourselves''

If the electorate felt so strongly about this he'd not be in office right now.
 
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It looks like Trump's solution to high gas prices is "just steal oil from other countries".




Because obviously it's going to terrorist organizations and stuff, and the world will be safer if it goes into American SUVs instead.
Its was going to Iran a country sanctioned by the UN for trying to get nuclear weapons to threaten the gulf countries and Israel with as well as likely Europe and the United States. Also Iran funds terror attacks in the US and even in Australia with fire bombings of Jewish organizations.
 

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Its was going to Iran a country sanctioned by the UN for trying to get nuclear weapons to threaten the gulf countries and Israel with as well as likely Europe and the United States. Also Iran funds terror attacks in the US and even in Australia with fire bombings of Jewish organizations.
I might have missed it, but is there proof that it was going to Iran other than Trump or Leavitt saying so, not that they aren't paragons of truth and virtue?
 
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Republicans did not change their minds. The 8 Democrats sold out and got jack shit in return for it. GGEZ.
The absolute very best they were ever potentially going to get was renewing subsidies with some kind of poison pill attached.

"Fuck you, got ours" was well within the expected range of outcomes.
 

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Remember, it's a very bad look to celebrate the death of people you disagree with, and you deserve to lose your job if you even imply that someone's death wasn't a tragedy.

Remember: Not weeping and rending your clothing at the death of Charlie Kirk makes you evil, but saying that Rob Reiner brought his death on himself because he drove people crazy with his "Trump Derangement Syndrome" is A-OK.